[00:15:54] James_F: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20252#c3 [00:16:08] * James_F looks. [00:16:19] * AaronSchulz would like any playback other than wav ;) [00:17:48] * James_F grins [00:18:47] AaronSchulz: So it looks like I'm wrong and we don't support WAV on Commons. [00:19:01] AaronSchulz: And we also don't transcode audio the way we do video. [00:19:04] AaronSchulz: Which sucks. :-( [00:19:16] right [00:19:32] it's called MediaWiki for a reason [00:23:05] A curse on humanity. [00:25:55] Elsie: Why!? [00:40:25] marktraceur: The naming is confusing. [00:40:32] Wikipedia --> Wikimedia --> MediaWiki [00:40:35] Ah. [00:40:46] The name MediaWiki also does get occasional jabs as well for its media support. [00:40:48] Elsie: It would be pretty hard to change, eh? [00:41:33] Annoying, I imagine. Not particularly difficult. [00:41:54] I was just thinking again about it becoming the Wikipedia Foundation. [00:42:00] There's great virtue in honesty. [00:42:23] But we're headed in the opposite direction. :-) [00:43:35] Elsie: Would it be fair to other projects for the Foundation to focus only on WP? [00:44:14] marktraceur: That's pretty much the current reality. :-) [00:44:33] I think it's not very fair to the Global South projects to pretend otherwise. [00:44:37] Which I think the Wikimedia name does. [00:44:46] * marktraceur does a lot of work that's generally applicable and for Commons [00:46:03] I don't feel like we're focusing unduly on Wikipedia, anyway, but I'd be willing to see evidence to the contrary [00:46:18] Chart it out. [00:46:39] Number of full-time employees focused on Wikipedia. [00:46:52] Do a wiki family in each row. [00:47:03] See how many are working on Wikiversity. ;-) [00:53:28] that's so unfair, Elsie :) [01:23:02] this is the tech channel, not exactly the right place for non-technical policy [01:27:59] I have when people do that, LeslieCarr [01:28:02] hate* [01:30:12] Hate is such a strong word... [01:30:27] Despise might be better. [01:31:29] https://ko.wikibooks.org/w/api.php?meta=siteinfo&action=query&format=jsonfm [01:31:46] why does 'dbversion' change on every refresh? [01:32:35] Oh... someone here that knows about the api? [01:38:15] odder: because both are true depending which db serves that request, ongoing switch from mysql to mariadb [01:39:23] some db servers have maria some have mysql [01:40:02] oh I see, thanks mutante [01:52:04] QueenOfFrance: ? [04:01:46] ping? [04:02:14] dunno why but I no pages from enwiki are loading for me [04:02:22] everything else seems fine [04:02:48] trying to figure out if it's a thing local to me [04:02:52] anyway [04:03:08] OlEnglish: I did have that issue earlier today [04:04:21] im in vancouver, bc [04:04:31] just thought i'd report this [04:05:08] can you ping me please? [04:05:15] i wonder if it's my provider [04:05:26] i see your with bell dsl [04:05:38] *you're [04:05:56] actually I'm not, the user I just banned is [04:06:05] oh duh [04:06:06] :) [04:06:27] if your ping times to Wikipedia are good, it's the servers' fault. [04:06:40] IIRC there have been some hardware changes or something recently. [04:07:07] hmm [04:07:15] ya it's gotten progressively worse [04:07:30] an hour ago it was super slow, now it's not loading at all [04:07:39] and it's only enwiki [04:07:58] some people reported the interestingly, clearing your cookies (which might involve reauthentication, though) did the trick, but idk. [04:08:02] * Jasper_Deng isn't a sysadmin [04:24:13] hmm nope didnt work [04:25:13] could be a rotten cache, or you happened to connect to the wrong server [04:25:22] (out of hundreds of other squids) [04:26:13] was the issue with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_highways_in_Texas ever identified? [04:31:25] it seems to always freeze at "Transferring data from bits.wikimedia.org..." [04:31:51] i essentially don't have access to enwiki at this point [04:31:55] fix this!! [04:31:57] please :) [04:32:15] (to whomever it may concern) [04:32:55] i'll trace a tracert [04:33:03] please do [04:34:05] odder: Ugh, it probably gets it from the slaves, and we have different versions in production right now [04:35:53] huh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_highways_in_Texas doesn't load for me [04:36:28] ori-l: more specifically? [04:36:36] it took a while for me but it loaded fine [04:36:55] [~] $ curl -vvv "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_highways_in_Texas" [04:36:55] * About to connect() to en.wikipedia.org port 80 (#0) [04:36:55] * Trying 208.80.154.225... [04:36:56] * connected [04:36:59] * Connected to en.wikipedia.org (208.80.154.225) port 80 (#0) [04:37:01] > GET /wiki/List_of_state_highways_in_Texas HTTP/1.1 [04:37:03] > User-Agent: curl/7.24.0 (x86_64-apple-darwin12.0) libcurl/7.24.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8x zlib/1.2.5 [04:37:05] > Host: en.wikipedia.org [04:37:07] > Accept: */* [04:37:09] > [04:37:11] then it hangs. [04:37:12] been like this for a couple of minutes [04:37:21] wait, I just got it. [04:37:30] Yeah it loads eventually [04:37:44] [04:37:49] heh [04:39:25] http://pastebin.ca/2402729 [04:39:30] if it helps at all.. [04:39:47] OlEnglish: a bit, yes :) [04:40:16] can you try pinging en.wikipedia.org? [04:40:34] for, say, 10s and then hit ctrl+c [04:40:43] and tell us the packet loss [04:41:16] from the tracert it looks like your ISP is crap, but let's verify that :) [04:41:47] it's definitely crap, their website loads like I'm on 56k [04:42:23] http://pastebin.ca/2402730 [04:42:33] yeah thats what i figure.. my isp is having issues [04:42:59] OlEnglish: it'd be best to get a bigger sample; I don't remember the Windows settings for ping, try ping /? [04:43:07] something like 30-50 packets instead of just 4 [04:43:15] oh right.. [04:43:17] hold on [04:44:04] how on earth have they managed to get 200+ms from ashburn to british columbia? [04:44:43] https://twitter.com/Shawhelp/status/347567810303623169 [04:44:51] and 280ms from amsterdam [04:45:02] "There's currently an issue affecting many internet customers. We have located the issue & crew is enroute to correct ASAP ^RD" [04:45:05] heh [04:45:22] thanks ori :) [04:45:33] OlEnglish: see above, your ISP has tweeted that they're experiencing issues [04:45:47] http://pastebin.ca/2402731 [04:45:48] wow, https://twitter.com/Shawhelp is amazing [04:46:00] hundreds of tweets [04:46:17] thank you paravoid [04:46:32] guess i'll just have to go through wikiwithdrawals for a bit [04:46:38] OlEnglish: that output is definitely not normal [04:46:46] heh no [04:49:03] and thank you as well ori-l [04:49:27] who needs troubleshooting when there's twitter [04:49:47] hehe no doubt [04:49:52] OlEnglish: A crew is en route to the source of the issue now. We apologize for any inconvenience & thank you for your patience ^OL [04:50:02] hahaha [04:50:22] they better move their ass! [04:50:30] paravoid: get in the wiki-van! [04:50:37] hm? [04:50:48] we don't have much time [04:50:55] for? [04:50:55] * ori-l gets into the wiki-van and turns on the sirens [04:50:59] ah! [04:51:19] to get to the source of the issue, obviously [04:51:56] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/03/11/0214233/massive-email-crash-hits-canadian-isp-shaw [04:52:26] just 3 months ago and they lost significant chunk of their emails because of human error [04:52:32] that sounds like a very crappy ISP [04:55:21] shaw is bloated [04:55:33] they're turning into an AOL basically [04:56:03] they seem to be struggling with the "You've got mail" bit [04:57:08] paravoid: emails? no one needs those >.> [04:57:30] hah [05:34:08] ori-l: I never get it. I either get "Timeout waiting for lock" or a Wikimedia Foundation timed out error [05:34:17] and it's been like that for a couple of days for me [05:34:34] if I log out, I get it. but it should work while I am logged in too [05:35:42] actually, now I'm not even getting it while logged out [05:36:17] doc: is Shaw your ISP by any chance? [05:36:47] nevermind [05:37:06] I don't think it's ISP-specific anyways [05:37:24] OlEnglish: Comcast [05:37:38] see? [05:37:41] and it finally loaded for the browsers where I was not logged in [06:50:10] hm [06:50:16] 00:49, 20 June 2013 Legoktm (talk | contribs | block) marked revision 560447605 of page Wikipedia talk:Cochrane patrolled [06:50:27] last i checked, enwp didn't have RC patrolled enabled. [06:51:56] legoktm: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&action=view&type=patrol&user=legoktm [06:52:11] Exactly. [06:52:24] I've always assumed that was referring to autopatrol [06:52:47] it should say "marked page [[blah]] patrolled" [06:53:08] the revision id here is pointless because im just patrolling the page, not the specific change [06:53:38] But the revision ID says the last rev on the page when you checked it. If there's a new change after that rev ID then the page shouldn't be marked as patrolled anymore, right? [06:53:50] wrong [06:54:03] Pine: only on wikis with RC patrol enabled. [06:54:10] enwp doesn't have it enabled [06:54:30] Hm [06:54:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autopatrol says this is only for NPP [06:54:43] so maybe you're right [06:55:02] Nemo_bis: is this a side effect of hoo messing with things? :P [06:55:08] Just a sec [06:56:17] ok https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_changes says nothing about marking RC edits as patrolled [06:56:35] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_changes_patrol doesn't discuss marking edits as patrolled [06:57:17] right [06:57:24] on enwiki, patrolling is for a page [06:57:36] on other wikis, meta or wikidata patrolling is for each revision [06:58:06] let's ask the CV people [06:58:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Patrolling <-- $wgUseRCPatrol is disabled on enwiki [07:02:05] legoktm: the CV people seem to be asleep, I suggest asking about this on the tech VP [07:02:25] well, i'm pretty sure i'm right (no offense), im really just waiting for hoo to come online [07:02:52] I don't see what the harm is though in logging all that stuff [07:03:27] Does it put a big load on server bandwidth or storage? [07:04:58] no i dont think so, i just want to know if the change was intentional [07:05:10] no [07:05:57] ok so does any of this matter? [07:28:05] re: PRISM [07:28:28] if I'm based in Europe and reading Wikipedia, am I connecting to the cache servers in Amsterdam? [07:29:14] for JS/CSS, yes. for actual article content, I don't think so [07:29:29] but: http://www.dailydot.com/news/dutch-netherlands-prism-intelligence-spying/ [07:33:22] legoktm: I'm about to give up on trying to get answers tonight. I suggest VP-tech or trying in the morning. [07:33:36] thanks for trying though :) [07:33:59] YW! [07:36:20] odder: curl -I "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey_Number_Five" 2>&1 | grep X-Cache [07:36:34] (assuming you're on a posix-y OS) [07:36:41] tells you what cache servers you hit [07:37:44] ori-l: X-Cache: HIT from amssq32.esams.wikimedia.org [07:37:54] amsterdam it is, then [07:40:26] apergos1: ipv6, fancy [07:41:09] really? [07:41:19] apergos1 has joined (~ariel@2a02:214d:8207:c500:21a:80ff:fed7:4f75) [07:41:26] huh (yeah just checked) [07:41:31] well that's ... curious :-D [07:41:44] (laptop just overheated, this is what I got on reboot) [07:42:00] heh [08:00:42] ori-l: am I PRISM-free then? :-) [08:12:20] odder: sorry? are you assuming PRISM doesn't control all AMSIX traffic? [08:12:40] it may be true but who knows [08:16:25] Nemo_bis: I have no idea, just asking [08:17:37] odder: you should ask Obama, or the NSA director, or the secret court [08:17:52] I doubt Ori knows (but maybe he's a member of the secret court?) [08:18:59] Nemo_bis: nah, I'm not saying he does know this stuff. I wrote to the President, but he didn't respond. I dunno why. [08:20:44] the foundation doesn't have any relationship whatsoever with the NSA that i am aware of, but in general no, being in europe wouldn't protect you [08:21:33] remember the NSA is prohibited by US law from spying on americans, so that's the reason the leaks focused on that [08:22:03] they're rather unencumbered when it comes to spying on nationals of other countries, and IIRC snowden mentioned that that is also rampant [08:23:06] PRISM was also one of three or four subsystems that were named, and again it seemed like it was the subject of the disclosure because it was most likely to catalyze some political response within the united states [08:23:57] the other subsystems were potentially even more sweeping in scope though -- there was mention of tapping undersea cables, etc [08:28:34] and as i mentioned earlier the dutch intelligence agency was implicated in PRISM by a former agent (slightly better article: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/dutch-security-service-received-information-via-prism-claims-former-employee-1.1425221) [08:51:50] is anyone aware of the really high database lag? [08:52:29] thanks again ori-l [08:52:29] > Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 321 seconds may not appear in this list. [08:52:34] keeps going up [08:59:20] closedmouth: in production ? [08:59:39] * hashar looks at http://noc.wikimedia.org/dbtree/ [09:00:00] yeah the slaves in S1 cluster are lagged apparently [09:00:24] hashar: whoa, didn't know about that. thanks [09:01:29] closedmouth: pinging ops about it in #wikimedia-operations [09:01:46] ori-l: yeah Asher wrote that one. I hate it since it is soooo wide :) [09:09:18] Nemo_bis: your short URL is down for me, btw [09:10:48] http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://ur1.ca/edq1f "It's not just you! http://ur1.ca looks down from here." [09:11:25] closedmouth: should be fine now [09:51:37] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/63572/ [09:51:53] heh, linking to secure bugs ftw [09:55:24] hashar: thanks [10:46:01] * odder prods James_F|Away [11:15:15] T13|NeedsCoffee: around? [11:15:54] Almost [11:17:34] Sup? [11:20:43] i have a better idea for the script :0 [11:21:00] rather than it be something that give you the wikitext to cp and paste into rfpp [11:21:19] it could be something which adds buttons / links next to the section names on rfpp to add each template? [11:21:33] prompting you with a messagebox to add a length and then auto adds it to the section? [11:21:34] :D [11:22:56] Have you used the afch script? [11:23:02] nope [11:23:26] Give me a minutes to get on computer [11:23:31] :> [11:26:30] Okay... [11:27:01] Let me go take a couple screenshots of what the afch script does on afc/r pages... [11:28:57] be abck in a bit, rushing off somehwere [11:36:26] addaway: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AFCH_AFC-R_%26_AFC-C.png [12:31:54] Technical_13: that looks, interesting... [12:32:11] You're back. [12:32:19] yup :> [12:33:35] So yeah.. At the top of the page, all of the requests are inside of a box added by the javascript. You select what you want to do with it, how you want to do it, how long you want it to last, and the script actually goes and does it all for you... You can do multiple requests simutaneously... [12:34:05] :O [12:34:07] * addshore likes [12:34:16] This is why I would have to develop and test on test.wikipedia where I have admin rights... [12:34:32] lets do it? :D [12:35:11] it would eb great to make clearing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Rfpp easier :) [12:35:14] The last little bit i have to figure out in my head is how to make the script transfer $.25 for each request it processes from the admin's bank account to mine... :P j.k [12:35:26] HAH! [12:36:28] Unfortunately I won't be doing much today as I'm cramming for a midterm exam I have to tak ein 3 hours... [12:36:51] @notify petan [12:36:51] This user is now online in #huggle. I'll let you know when they show some activity (talk, etc.) [12:37:48] haha, okay :) [12:39:52] Elsie: <3<3<3 [12:50:06] Technical_13: i have ideas, i just need to sit with a javascript person for a day or 2 and make everything xD [12:50:22] what ideas do you have to add? [12:51:04] Meet me in ##T13 and give me a couple minutes and I'll create the sandbox for the project. [15:18:17] odder: Hey. [15:18:21] odder: You prodded me? [15:19:28] James_F: I did! [15:19:49] odder: Ah, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48059 ? [15:19:52] James_F: what is the day that you guys (you personally?) publish updates on VE? [15:20:03] odder: Today. But I need to write it first. :-) [15:20:26] More or less Thursdays, is it? [15:20:40] Can someone strip QueenOfFrance's steward access? [15:20:48] odder: Yes, every Thursday. [15:20:58] Derp is soooo boring. [15:21:53] James_F: thanks. I'll be looking forward to reading this (I added that MW.org page to my watchlist earlier today once I located your staff username) [15:22:18] James_F: perhaps it might be useful to update the staff and contributors page on WMF.org [15:24:12] odder: ? [15:25:01] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:JForrester [15:26:27] James_F: I think you're using a different account? Jdforrester (WMF)? [15:30:12] odder: WMFWiki isn't SUL; different acount names. [15:32:05] odder: But now added a link to my MW.org user page. [15:42:12] thanks James_F [16:38:31] the WMF switched from nagios to icinga, right? [16:38:45] yup [16:40:01] Reedy: hah. if you have info-en access, https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID=7013845&ArticleID=8282144&QueueID=6 is amusing then. [16:40:51] Awesome [16:40:54] loooool [16:41:47] ikr. [16:43:42] csteipp: my daily security nudge :) [16:46:36] QueenOfFrance / Reedy oh god the reply to that ticket [16:46:57] lfaraone: sigh. [16:47:16] Just forward them to somebody at the foundation [16:48:02] QueenOfFrance: I'm tempted to just say no harder. [16:48:22] You'd think that a technical company would have smarter marketing people [16:49:38] lfaraone: isn't nagios GPL anyway? [16:49:46] QueenOfFrance: still trademarked. [16:50:07] lfaraone: well yeah of course, but you'd think that they'd be less annoying if it's a free product [16:50:19] QueenOfFrance: they have a Brand and they sell Enterprise support. [16:50:25] what is the issue QueenOfFrance ? [16:50:28] I know, I knwo, but still [16:51:07] lfaraone: heh, I'd still point them to somebody at the WMF if it was me, but heh :) [16:51:17] matanya: oh nothing, see above [16:51:39] some ticket i can't see :) [17:41:25] So, in case anyone is wondering why languagelinks went missing on wikipedia: it's wikidata's fault. Reedy is currently rebuilding the respective table. [17:41:34] (someone plase repost this in the operations channel too) [17:41:49] hey Tpt_ [18:18:36] test2wiki is down PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf8/includes/GlobalFunctions.php line 1288: [18:18:37] Call to a member function getCode() on a non-object [18:20:40] Ohh [18:20:42] Interesting [18:20:48] I thought that was only occurring on jobrunners [18:21:05] chrismcmahon: Bug already logged for it https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49897 [18:21:16] thanks Reedy [18:21:25] figured [18:21:43] Where are you seeing it? Might be a different backtrace.. [18:22:27] I've had a few other large amounts of noise to battle [18:24:11] yuck [18:24:29] chrismcmahon: Slightly different stack trace [18:28:53] Reedy: what do we do about http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/10.4.0.220 ? [18:29:05] we shouldn't be getting 10.* edits, right? [18:29:36] No, but they're not from squid/varnish [18:29:37] 220.0.4.10.in-addr.arpa name = i-000005f9.pmtpa.wmflabs. [18:29:37] 220.0.4.10.in-addr.arpa name = tools-login.pmtpa.wmflabs. [18:56:00] Getting reports of High lag [18:56:08] yeah [18:58:48] !lag [18:58:52] :( [18:59:13] hashar: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=dbrepllag&sishowalldb= [18:59:25] I love our bots [19:01:17] hoo: hai [19:01:24] was looking for you last night [19:01:25] hi legoktm ;) [19:01:27] question about patrol logs [19:01:37] Oh, wasn't really around yesterday [19:01:52] on enwiki i see stuff like [19:01:53] 00:49, 20 June 2013 Legoktm (talk | contribs | block) marked revision 560447605 of page Wikipedia talk:Cochrane patrolled [19:02:11] enwiki doesnt have rc patrol enabled, so should it be giving the specific revision number? [19:02:24] or [19:02:30] legoktm: Has that only started recently or is it a long term thing [19:02:31] 01:43, 20 June 2013 Legoktm (talk | contribs | block) automatically marked revision 560691401 of page User talk:[username] patrolled [19:02:42] * legoktm looks [19:03:24] hm, seems they've always been that way [19:03:47] I think they've been... that's a little weird, I guess [19:04:12] but as page patrol really is just revision patrol relabeled it at least technically makes some sense [19:04:27] hm, ok [19:07:11] I have an IRC noob question... if I /ignore someone that only hides their comments from me, right? [19:08:03] And it is global,right? [19:09:38] An IP that has no edits has made an edit? :/ [19:09:41] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zdeno_Ch%C3%A1ra&action=history yet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/173.35.99.136 [19:17:02] a930913: lag [19:18:32] Ah. [19:18:42] Any cause? [19:19:44] DanielK_WMDE: Hi! Sorry. [19:34:11] Reedy: I'm getting 504 when trying to load enwiki watchlist [19:34:14] and only the enwiki watchlist [19:34:21] Jasper_Deng: Known issue [19:34:36] The enwiki contrib/recentchanges/watchlist db slave is overloaded [19:35:19] outch [19:36:50] Reedy: Any change I can get access to ishmael again? [19:36:56] Again? [19:37:03] I used to have it :P [19:37:10] It also seems to be broken today from other reports [19:37:23] :/ [19:37:45] It could be that one of my changes is repsonsible for this [19:38:02] Reedy: Thanks for the review. Can you take a look also at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/69754 that should fix the bug in test2 [19:40:17] Ok, maybe not RecentChange::newFromConds isn't using that slave... and neither is the Revision class [19:51:06] Reedy: any ETA on lag? [19:51:15] No [19:51:30] Mobile have just deployed some code to hopefully help the situation [19:52:01] You can have all of my lag now if you want it Betacommand [19:52:18] :p [20:02:46] Aaron|home: you around? [20:02:59] yes [20:03:24] Would you be able to do the oauth checkin now instead of at 6? [20:03:36] sure [21:37:44] Reedy: [21:37:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Birdman_%28rapper%29&diff=560786009&oldid=560081885 [21:37:52] PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf7/extensions/FlaggedRevs/backend/FRInclusionCache.php line 58: [21:37:52] Call to a member function getParserOutput() on a non-object [21:37:57] FlaggedRevs [21:38:03] I think I already logged a bug about it [21:38:09] Aaron|home: AaronSchulz ^ [21:38:22] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49899 [21:38:39] meh [21:39:00] Reedy: thanks [21:39:04] Aaron|home: plz fix :) [21:54:50] what's the annoying bug that caused my firefox to hang at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/45651/18/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php ? -.- [21:56:18] so annoying and it's not the first time.... [21:56:53] Open Source software [21:59:14] legoktm: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69800 [21:59:31] Nice, round number :D [21:59:39] :D [21:59:45] i have no clue how to test it though :P [22:00:04] hoo: I prefer rawr revisions [22:00:27] I didn't bother to test it as well... someone will either do this or just assume it's sane as it doesn't have any Syntax Errors :D [22:00:54] se4598_2: Works fine in IE10 [22:01:38] FlaggedRevs is not sane [22:02:16] // Make this even more rock hard solid stable robust! [22:02:35] Reedy: also works on chrome, but two FF's says it hangs at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gerrit_ui/6B7A657E59C0B2A015C4021DBFFEE6B3.cache.html:76 which line number doesn't help me either [22:03:08] That doesn't usually work for me either... just open it in another browser [22:03:19] That's a professional solution... I know [22:04:28] that code at the page also looks "cool": ... function eh(){} function Oh(){} function Rh(){} ... [22:09:14] obfuscation or just severe minifcation [22:10:35]