[06:07:26] apergos: is there some sort of feed to have updates on new dumps produced? I think you once said so [06:23:21] Nemo_bis: there's rss (which I have never used :-/) [06:24:23] apergos: URL? [06:25:09] I'm looking to see if there is one general feed or not [06:25:36] people generally subscribe to the 'latest' link for their wiki cause most people aren't interested in all 820 projects but like maybe 3 [06:25:40] apergos: are you able to investigate a possible CentralAuth bug? [06:25:49] a steward's running into problems [06:26:26] what are the symptoms? [06:26:36] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Redbanaxd [06:26:45] when the account showed up as created [06:26:49] also no local account [06:26:58] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Redbanaxd [06:26:59] wait [06:27:03] Nemo_bis: I guess your best bet is checking the main index page, sadly [06:27:13] since you want it for everything. so no rss [06:27:23] apergos: actually I want it for one [06:27:27] oh? [06:27:28] oh, yeah. First time we couldn't see the home wiki. [06:27:28] which one? [06:27:36] the other time it was simply not found. [06:27:37] itwikiquote [06:28:22] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/itwiki/latest/ there are the rss xml files in there [06:28:39] Jasper_Deng: I don't know how high replag is on TS, but no accounts at all are shown [06:28:48] yeah [06:28:52] and that's the problem [06:28:55] probably replag [06:29:02] For CentralAuth? [06:29:07] it seems [06:29:57] apergos: ah, thanks :) adding to Meta pages now [06:30:00] ok [06:30:29] so apparently no global account [06:30:34] when did the local account show up? [06:30:50] No logs?: https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Speciale:Registri [06:31:18] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Redbanaxd is the one having issues [06:31:30] I saw it SUL on #cv- [06:31:37] #cvn-unifications [06:31:38] great except for me it says there is no global user [06:31:49] so that page is pretty well useless for me :-/ [06:32:02] oh, gotta timestamp? [06:32:16] Yeah [06:32:32] 1:19:15 AM CST [06:32:57] today? [06:33:10] yeah [06:33:21] It's June 19 here :) [06:33:31] and this is itwikiquote you saw it on? [06:33:45] no [06:33:54] enwiki according to his channel [06:34:01] oh :-D [06:34:18] ok, I was just confused by the wikiquote link [06:34:31] yeah my bad [06:35:33] yeah great, user not registered, urg [06:35:59] empty set [06:37:42] search of all public logs shows nada, also awesome [06:39:14] let's see which is master for that cluster and I'll try again [06:40:48] empty on master [06:40:57] (for entry in the user table with that name) [06:41:08] ok lemme check centralauth db directly [06:45:22] on master for centralauth: no such user [06:46:10] no such local user there either [06:46:12] no trace. [06:46:31] if it's not on master, where the heck is it? [06:47:27] oh wow [06:47:31] that's hilarious [06:47:43] it made it into globalnames [06:47:55] but not any other tables? [06:47:59] that's really strange [06:48:51] not even in localnames [06:49:10] mysql:wikiadmin@db1041 [centralauth]> select * from globaluser where gu_name = 'Redbanaxd'; [06:49:11] Empty set (0.00 sec) [06:49:22] mysql:wikiadmin@db1041 [centralauth]> select * from localuser where lu_name = 'Redbanaxd'; [06:49:22] Empty set (0.00 sec) [06:49:37] mysql:wikiadmin@db1041 [centralauth]> select * from globalnames where gn_name = 'Redbanaxd'; [06:49:37] +-----------+ [06:49:37] | gn_name | [06:49:37] +-----------+ [06:49:37] | Redbanaxd | [06:49:40] Bsadowski1 ^ [06:49:54] mysql:wikiadmin@db1041 [centralauth]> select * from localnames where ln_name = 'Redbanaxd'; [06:49:54] Empty set (0.00 sec) [06:51:10] o_O [06:51:17] Oh wow. How the hell did that happen? [06:51:49] that's part of the question [06:54:55] so I assume no one has any screen shots of when they did see a tiny bit of info for the user... [06:55:12] yeah :( [06:55:34] at this point I guess it's bz it, add the line from #cvn-unifications with the timestamp, add the above (they will love that there's a globalname with nothing else) [07:00:35] anything else you want me to poke at while I'm in here? [07:00:43] Bsadowski1 ^ [07:00:47] I do apergos [07:01:05] i think it is not related to you, but you are here :) [07:01:17] ok, hold on til I have an answer on the first issue [07:04:28] users report that in the new login screen the remember me check box doesn't work in explorer 10 on windows 7. [07:05:36] ah that is so not me... sorry :-D [07:06:43] who is it apergos ? [07:06:56] perhaps REedy [07:06:56] I don't know specifically [07:07:11] what component in BZ? [07:08:46] mediawiki -> userlogin and signup I guess [07:08:57] they'll move it if they need to [12:03:38] addaway: wake up... [12:06:39] T13, I'm not asleep, I'm out and about! [12:26:52] Ahhh. [12:27:02] Working on your request now... [12:27:27] . addaway ^^ [12:29:17] Awesome :) [12:32:20] It's interesting that the mw software does give any confirmation of protection changes... [12:32:48] Might have to put in a ticket for that.. [16:04:16] PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf7/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Hooks.php line 667: Call to a member function getPrefixedText() on a non-object [16:04:31] probably already in bz somewhere [16:04:33] on mediawiki.org while trying to use Special:Import (transwiki) [16:04:44] yeah, that's one of the ones I gave up trying to fix [16:04:45] Right [16:05:16] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41056? [16:06:37] So, since LQT is basically unmaintained, I'm guessing I can't really expect anyone to care :) [16:07:22] Basically... I have tried to kill half of the major/critical bugs but the state of it is ridiculous really [16:07:34] hm no, it's not that bug [16:10:08] LQT has 204 open bugs at the moment [16:10:16] :-/ [16:13:16] Some of which probably aren't valid [16:13:37] some of them haven't been touched since 2011 [16:14:35] ^demon: do you have time to fix the pywikipedia git repos? Or is there someone else I can/should bug :-) [16:14:45] <^demon> I was just about to do them :) [16:14:50] you're my hero. [16:20:59] <^demon> valhallasw: Repos all created: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/?filter=pywikibot. The pywikibot parent repo contains the ACL if we need to tweak it. [16:23:35] ok, let's try :-) [18:46:55] csteipp: around? [18:48:55] Ryan_Lane: you may want hear this too [18:49:06] is this security related? [18:49:18] if so, we should make a private channel [18:49:24] please pm me [18:55:38] thanks Ryan_Lane :) good to know [18:56:16] yw [18:57:36] for those following along at home: we're all good :) [18:59:26] Yay. :-) [22:03:13] gn8 folks [22:18:25] Hey greg-g, so... using MIT licensed code in MediaWiki. That's mostly ok right? [22:19:30] yeah, totally ok [22:19:44] csteipp: just don't remove the MIT license headers in the file and you're good to go [23:14:02] James_F: the other day you mentioned an "experimental" mode for VE that is enabled on test2wiki and disabled on beta labs. would it be a hardship to bring beta to parity with test2wiki for VE features? [23:14:42] Testing should be hard. [23:14:53] We should have a slightly different version of VisualEditor on each wiki. [23:14:54] chrismcmahon: We're not actually using beta to test new features right now (we're using MW.org), but properly we should be testing new features outside the main production environment. [23:15:00] Elsie: Ideally not. :-) [23:15:07] PAWNS EVERYWHERE. [23:16:12] James_F: after living with it this week, I'd like to have the bleeding edge of VE on beta I think. [23:18:01] Surely the beta version should be on beta. ;-) [23:18:46] Elsie: that's not all that obvious [23:19:18] ori-l: What's not obvious? [23:19:24] exactly [23:19:33] I can deploy the obvicopters at a moment's notice. [23:19:40] heh [23:20:10] If the largest set of bugs to be discovered involve wikitext edge-cases that don't round-trip properly, then you need a wiki with a large corpus of wikitext that gets edited frequently. [23:20:14] James_F: would it mess with the VE team to have both mw.o/test2 and beta both running bleeding edge? [23:21:09] chrismcmahon: No, no problem at all. [23:21:10] ori-l: I have a feeling the round-trip risk is mitigated quite a lot at this point [23:21:26] Parsoid seems to be most of the bugs I find. [23:21:46] The VE interface itself is still too simple to have too many bugs. [23:21:48] Kind of. [23:22:15] Elsie: you'd think ;) [23:23:08] James_F: Are you still planning to do an A/B test with new users this month? [23:23:25] chrismcmahon: Aha; I've found the issue. [23:23:34] James_F: ? [23:23:47] chrismcmahon: Beta /does/ have experimental on, but isn't updating VisualEditor - last version is from 28 May. [23:23:59] chrismcmahon: Do you know how to add an extension to beta's build list? [23:24:04] James_F: that would be a bug, thanks :) [23:24:21] James_F: I didn't even think to look, phooey [23:24:38] chrismcmahon: I'm happy to get it fixed if that's a bother. [23:25:04] Elsie: And yes, we're still planning that A/B test but haven't picked the exact timing yet. [23:25:14] Okay. [23:25:24] I'll continue throwing rocks from the sidelines. ;-) [23:25:26] James_F: np, I was under the impression that it had been done deliberately, I'll let hashar know [23:25:33] Elsie: Thanks. :-) [23:25:41] chrismcmahon: I think Roan just forgot. Sorry! [23:25:56] James_F: glad I asked, thanks again [23:27:46] Elsie: FWIW, I think VE takes up more disc space than MW core at this point. Simplicity of interface doesn't mean lack of complexity. [23:28:39] James_F: I forgot what now? [23:29:01] RoanKattouw: To add VE to beta's list of extensions to pull from master. [23:29:08] RoanKattouw: So it's still on 28 May code. [23:29:19] RoanKattouw: Hence, confusion about lack of experimental tools. :-) [23:31:25] Oh, I didn't now such a list existed [23:31:29] *know [23:31:54] RoanKattouw: Neither did I. [23:33:12] that list should be generated automatically but beta still has flaky corners here and there [23:34:06] James_F: The