[07:13:13] <kwj2772>	 Wikimedia server seems to be very slow now.
[07:33:02] <Nemo_bis>	 22.35 < jorm> right.  and "patrol the page" should mark all revisions as patrolled.
[07:33:05] <Nemo_bis>	 wrong
[07:33:16] <Nemo_bis>	 and technically impossible anyway
[19:15:28] <BadDesign>	 Why someone can't change his username on Wikipedia? Why associate contributions to an IP address or an username instead of the user id? By associating contributions with the user id one can change his username at will if its availalble
[19:16:54] <BadDesign>	 If someone isn't logged in, fine associated the contributions to the IP address, but if someone decides to register, associate its contributions to the USER ID not username!
[19:16:56] <Krenair>	 They are associated with a user ID, user IDs just aren't exposed in the interface.
[19:17:17] <BadDesign>	 Then why the username can't be changed by the user?
[19:17:21] <Nemo_bis>	 Except for IP addresses which indeed don't have one.
[19:17:23] <Krenair>	 Users can be renamed.
[19:17:26] <Nemo_bis>	 Why should they?
[19:17:35] <BadDesign>	 Because its their right!
[19:17:39] <Krenair>	 No it's not...
[19:18:01] <BadDesign>	 Why not give the user the power?
[19:18:04] <Krenair>	 Only bureaucrats have the right to rename users.
[19:18:07] <BadDesign>	 Why user beurocrats?
[19:18:14] <BadDesign>	 s/user/use
[19:18:23] <BadDesign>	 It would be simpler to give the power to the user
[19:18:29] <BadDesign>	 What so big deal
[19:18:31] <Krenair>	 This is not a question for wikimedia-tech
[19:19:14] <BadDesign>	 And why would I want my username change to appear in the logs?
[19:19:29] <Krenair>	 All changes like that have to appear in the logs.
[19:20:18] <ashley>	 why, why, why...why are *you* trying to change existing conventions which are perfectly fine?
[19:20:26] <BadDesign>	 No they aren't
[19:20:42] <Krenair>	 If a wiki community wants to change that they can discuss it on-wiki and get a developer to modify the software to allow it (and then a sysadmin change the config for that wiki, it would not be allowed by default in the software).
[19:22:02] <Krenair>	 So go and ask on a village pump equivalent for <name of your wiki here>. It is a policy question not tech
[19:25:21] <BadDesign>	 The fact that a username starts with an uppercase letter blows my mind
[19:25:33] <BadDesign>	 Why in the world would anyone want to do that!
[19:25:50] <Krenair>	 Why are you blowing your own mind?
[19:29:56] <BadDesign>	 Why a user can't delete his account from Wikipedia? By delete I mean remove that username from the database and associate all the contributions to Anonymous. What's so hard to an SQL UPDATE?
[19:30:28] <Krenair>	 There's probably not much technically difficult about it.
[19:30:51] <Krenair>	 But no one's decided that would be a good feature to add.
[19:36:02] <BadDesign>	 Is there a bug tracker where I can add feature requests?
[19:36:07] <BadDesign>	 to Wikipedia?
[19:37:34] <Krenair>	 Yes.
[19:40:35] <BadDesign>	 Krenair: that is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29 ?
[19:41:43] <Krenair>	 That's not a bug tracker, but that's where you'll have to go if you want the English Wikipedia to accept your user-self-deletion idea (I very much doubt it'd get enabled without their agreement).
[20:55:15] * Jasper_Deng  pokes Reedy

[21:00:38] <Krenair>	 Hmm... Why is sp-contribution-footer not showing on mediawikiwiki?
[22:09:06] <Krenair>	 Anyone know how to get the content language of a wiki from the API?
[22:09:44] <Nemo_bis>	 isn't it in siprops general or something
[22:09:56] <Krenair>	 sitematrix doesn't seem to provide them for the special wikis, so I'm trying to find it locally...
[22:10:26] <Krenair>	 Ugh yep, under general. Thanks Nemo_bis