[00:03:34] [[Tech]]; Thehelpfulone; /* Automatically add files that have been tagged for >7 days with either {{No source}} or {{No license}} to Category:Deleteme */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5504071&oldid=5502990&rcid=4202444 [00:04:12] [[Tech]]; Thehelpfulone; bah; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5504077&oldid=5504071&rcid=4202450 [00:09:41] [[Tech]]; PiRSquared17; /* Automatically add files that have been tagged for >7 days with either {{tl|No source}} or {{tl|No license}} to Category:Deleteme */ d; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5504086&oldid=5504077&rcid=4202460 [00:12:53] [[Tech]]; Thehelpfulone; /* Automatically add files that have been tagged for >7 days with either {{tl|No source}} or {{tl|No license}} to Category:Deleteme */ re; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5504088&oldid=5504086&rcid=4202464 [00:14:59] [[Tech]]; PiRSquared17; /* Automatically add files that have been tagged for >7 days with either {{tl|No source}} or {{tl|No license}} to Category:Deleteme */ +; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5504090&oldid=5504088&rcid=4202466 [00:44:17] [[Tech]]; MZMcBride; /* Automatically add files that have been tagged for >7 days with either {{tl|No source}} or {{tl|No license}} to Category:Deleteme */ +reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5504245&oldid=5504090&rcid=4202619 [00:57:56] hey, how come TimedMediaHandler/transcode-status/transcode-reset exist on wikis with local uploading disabled? [00:58:20] Probably a bug. [00:58:25] I think TMH is enabled on all wikis. [00:58:30] But not every wiki uses it. [00:59:09] should it be, though? [00:59:33] I mean, if there's no files to use it on, what's the point? [00:59:47] You can file a bug here: https://bugs.wikimedia.org [01:00:03] i will. was just making sure there wasn't a good reason for it :P [01:00:04] Where are you seeing "transcode-status"? [01:00:18] ListGroupRights [01:00:48] Where? [01:01:12] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights#sysop [01:01:24] Be sure to include that link in a bug report. :-) [01:01:27] it might be new. i don't remember seeing it in the past. [01:01:45] I guess the user right is assigned to all admins on wikis where this extension is enabled. [01:01:56] There's probably a way to remove the user right where it's not needed. [01:02:05] Though I'm not sure it's a bug, exactly. [01:02:21] I guess there's a bigger question as to why the extension is enabled on wikis where it's really not needed. [01:03:04] yeah. in commonsettings I notice: [01:03:04] $wgEnableTranscode = $wgEnableUploads; [01:03:19] I'd think that'd be related? [01:09:01] Yeah, file a bug. :-) [01:11:29] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48761 enjoy! [01:11:58] Lovely. Thanks! [01:12:00] i don't see that ever getting fixed, as its not causing issues, and there is no point having it in settings with a list of wikis where to turn it off [01:12:39] (incidentally, the "Site requests" component description references an "extension setup" component which doesn't exist. some Bugzilla admin might want to fix that.) [01:12:59] File a bug. [01:13:08] p858snake|l: I think it'll be fixed. [01:13:09] QuelqueChoseRose: yes it does? [01:13:17] I just looked at the config. [01:13:33] oh. fail. wow [01:13:35] It just needs an additional check of some kind for whether uploads are enabled before specifying to load the extension. [01:14:02] p858snake|l: yeah, I did a ctrl+f (since I guess I suck at the alphabet?) and didn't realize it wouldn't show up [01:14:02] The extra messages, etc. are all unneeded weight, I imagine. [01:14:08] I have to pee. [01:15:02] Susan: those would still get loaded via the main tmh i18n, you would be only turning off the transcode function [01:15:26] unless you don't want to play videos at all (eg: common files) then you would turn the whole tmh off [01:15:27] yeah. the admin rights are bogged-down enough as it is. no need to have two pointless ones. but whatever. i marked it as minor. feel free to set some low priority. [01:15:29] p858snake|l: Not if the extension is disabled. [01:15:37] I'm not sure the extension is needed to play videos. [01:15:50] Susan: yes, it replaces ogghandler which used to handle it [01:16:06] Is that right? [01:16:08] I dunno. [01:16:27] I thought TimedMediaHandler did translated captions or something. [01:16:56] it just does more in the same tin [01:17:11] "TimedMediaHandler is an extension which allows you to display audio and video files in wiki pages, using the same syntax as for image files. It includes the Kaltura HTML5 Player, which supports integrated standard timed text support, real time stream switching between multiple WebM and Ogg derivatives and many other features. TMH server side support includes multiple transcode profiles, php based medata parsing via PEAR Ogg / OggHa [01:17:11] ndler and getID3 for WebM files, and integrates with mediaWiki's jobQueue system for scheduling transcoding jobs." [01:17:31] Interesting. [01:19:05] p858snake|l: but it's not needed to play videos from Commons, right? [01:19:31] yes it is (unless you have a decent that supports it iirc) [01:19:41] s/decent/decent browser/ [01:20:08] oh. crap. that's why I was asking before filing a bug in the first place [01:20:28] It may still make sense to disable it. [01:20:30] Dunno. [01:20:52] the whole " $wgEnableTranscode = $wgEnableUploads;" could be changed for the seperate transcoding parts, but it seems a waste to me [01:21:06] I'll refer any trouts in your general direction if I get yelled at for filing that bug, Susan ;P [01:21:17] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:TimedMediaHandler [01:21:24] That doesn't seem like great behavior to me. [01:22:07] there are 0 instances report, its working how it should [01:22:09] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:TimedMediaHandler [01:23:28] well duh. it'd be a way more serious bug if it were reporting 0 when there /weren't/ 0. but that's why I put it under Wikimedia, not MediaWiki extensions ;) [01:24:22] p858snake|l: Right, but if uploads are disabled, it'll never report anything, right? [01:24:27] Because it only counts local files. [01:24:32] Maybe? [01:24:38] I dunno. [01:24:40] yes, but who is to say it will local uploads disabled for ever? [01:24:52] The configuration variable. [01:24:56] or have special instances where videos will be uploaded [01:25:19] Susan: and keeping a separate config for it around seems pointless [01:25:22] * Susan shrugs. [01:25:34] when it does no harm (tm) [04:58:33] Hi, does anyone know a way to enable a gadget for userright1 OR userright2 (I'm trying to enable Twinkle on fa.wikipedia for rollback and patrol) [04:58:54] I'm not sure that's possbile. [04:58:56] possible [04:59:03] Perhaps search Bugzilla? [04:59:07] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org [04:59:45] OK, thanks [05:00:34] that /is/ [05:00:45] see http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition [05:01:32] see the [rights=delete] part [05:02:24] dalba, Susan ^ [05:04:32] Jasper_Deng: He was asking about multiple user rights. [05:05:01] That's why the "OR" was in caps, presumably. [05:05:03] that should still be possible [05:05:10] Using a comma as a separator? [05:05:14] surely you could specify a list [05:05:28] Could or can? :-) [05:05:34] (and I also think if not, you can add the gadget twice, each with a different [rights=] entry) [05:05:55] I'm not sure about that. [05:08:56] Jasper_Deng, Susan is right, I'm looking for multiple user rights, what I need is something like rights=patrol OR rollback (if I use rights=patrol,rollback , users will need to have both rights) [05:09:05] I'll try to add gadget twice, but it's not a nice way because-for users who have both rights-it will appeare twice in prefrences. [05:10:11] Don't try to add it twice. [05:10:13] That'll just create a mess. [05:11:19] dalba: did you do comma separation? [05:11:32] * Jasper_Deng suspects that it's gotta be possible b/c it's "rights", not "right" [05:13:57] have a look on en.wiki, surely one of them has been setup to check more than one right [05:14:09] Jasper_Deng, Yes, I tried that, but comma separation enables the gadget only for those users who have both rights simultaneously [05:16:41] IMO if I wanted my way we should replace those with boolean operators (&& and ||) [05:27:48] p858snake|l, I couldn't find anything useful on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition, but thanks anyway. [05:27:55] Jasper_Deng, I tested defining the gadget twice, Only the last definition is effective. (and won't appear twice in prefrences) [05:28:10] I'll probably report this as but, thanks everyone [05:28:22] bug* [05:28:36] Gadgets 2.0 will have this, maybe. [05:36:35] ;] ;] ;] [05:36:40] welp, wrong channel [08:28:16] !log updated payments cluster to dce20cbeb501a [08:28:24] Logged the message, Master [08:40:31] Are the Wikipedia dump bz2 archieves generate with pbzip2 (parallel compressor) or regular bzip2? [08:40:37] *generated [08:47:47] BadDesign: no. [08:47:50] reguar bzip2 [08:48:15] (sorry I read the first part of the "ia a or b" before noticing there was an 'or' part) [18:54:37] valhallasw: ping [19:10:40] valhallasw: still ping [23:50:42] * Aaron|home wonders wtf WPBannerMeta is doing [23:55:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Menemsha_Hills&oldid=474560275 [23:55:10] how that be so slow [23:55:28] *how can [23:55:30] * Aaron|home sighs