[14:01:38] <Denny_WMDE>	 i have a WikiRevision but need a Revision, and I cannot figure out how to get the latter from the former (or actually, why they do not share an interface in the first place)
[14:03:00] <jeremyb>	 Denny_WMDE: you may get a faster answer in #wikimedia-dev or #mediawiki
[14:03:38] <Denny_WMDE>	 jeremyb: thx
[16:03:26] <anomie>	 greg-g: So, shall I enable CodeEditor for css and js in Beta Labs now?
[16:04:27] <greg-g>	 anomie: sure thing
[16:04:39] * greg-g  is at a confrence today, just fyi

[16:23:02] <ragesoss>	 in upload wizard, I've been getting this a lot at the last step lately: "Internal error: Could not determine if the copy succeeded"
[16:26:10] <Reedy>	 lol
[16:26:13] <Reedy>	 Helpful
[16:26:23] <Reedy>	 Do they work? Thumbnails after etc?
[16:44:47] <jeremyb>	 ragesoss: that question was for you :)
[16:44:54] * jeremyb  runs awya

[16:44:55] <jeremyb>	 away*
[16:45:09] <ragesoss>	 thanks
[16:46:09] <ragesoss>	 Reedy, yes, they've always ended up having uploaded just fine.
[16:46:21] <Reedy>	 Mmmm
[16:46:30] <Reedy>	 I wonder if that's swift/ceph being unhappy
[16:46:44] <ragesoss>	 in my latest batch of 11, I had 3 listed as "Published!"
[16:46:47] <ragesoss>	 one "An unknown error occurred."
[16:46:56] <ragesoss>	 and the rest, that other error.
[16:47:12] <ragesoss>	 but all succeeded.
[16:47:24] <Reedy>	 Probably worth filing a bug CC'ing Aaron and Faidon, listing the filenames
[16:47:40] <ragesoss>	 okay, will do.
[16:52:40] <Krenair>	 Reedy, @since stuff should be 1.22 now right?
[16:52:59] <Reedy>	 Yup, we don't tend to backport features
[16:53:20] <Krenair>	 Wasn't sure whether this would be included in 1.21 or not
[16:53:21] <Krenair>	 okay
[16:53:26] <Reedy>	 Though, yours could be classed as a security fix
[17:02:46] <anomie>	 greg-g: Enabled. Found a bug already: when turned on for core, it only works for the MediaWiki namespace, not user css/js subpages.
[17:03:09] <anomie>	 greg-g: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/64593/ fixes that
[18:14:03] <greg-g>	 anomie: awesome.
[18:16:45] <Dragonfly6-7>	 have there been any changes to Vector lately? My customized .css and .js are manifesting something different.
[18:18:52] <retsreklawts>	 Also the symbols stuff at the bottom of the edit page on enwiki are no longer working (reported in -en-help )
[18:19:22] <Dragonfly6-7>	 retsreklawts - -en-help isn't the best place for that
[18:19:50] <retsreklawts>	 I'm aware, but it's the place a newbie came to letting me know about it
[18:19:57] <retsreklawts>	 hence why I'm now reporting it in here
[18:26:48] <anomie>	 Dragonfly6-7, retsreklawts: Well, 1.22wmf4 is in the process of being deployed to enwiki now (it's been on mw.org since last Monday, and non-Wikipedia sites since Wednesday). I don't know offhand what may have changed since 1.22wmf3, and I'm not sure that it's actually done being deployed or if it's in the middle of doing so at this moment.
[18:28:42] <Dragonfly6-7>	 anomie - there are reports coming in of other widespread js flaws
[18:28:47] <Dragonfly6-7>	 Twinkle is broken, etc
[18:31:58] <Ucucha>	 did anything change recently with regards to mw.hook in JavaScript?
[18:32:12] <Ucucha>	 it seems to exist with ?debug=true but not otherwise, which causes errors on en.wp
[18:34:04] <anomie>	 mw.hook is new in 1.22wmf4. Try bypassing your caches and see if it's fixed now.
[18:36:16] <Ucucha>	 no, still not working
[18:40:56] <anomie>	 Ucucha: Hmm. I'm not seeing any error on enwiki with debug=true.
[18:41:08] <Ucucha>	 yes, that's the odd part
[18:41:17] <Ucucha>	 the error only appears without debug=true
[18:41:22] <RoanKattouw>	 Yes
[18:41:32] <RoanKattouw>	 The cause is known, Krin kle is working on fixing it
[18:41:36] <Ucucha>	 ok, thanks
[18:44:39] <anomie>	 Ucucha: Oh, I misunderstood you earlier. I thought you were saying the error only existed with debug=true, not that mw.hook only existed with debug=true.
[18:45:24] <Ucucha>	 anomie: sorry for being unclear
[18:45:30] <Ucucha>	 looks like it's working again now, thanks!
[19:23:05] <temporaire>	 hi. my watchlist (on en.wiktionary) times out when i try to view it (today only?), and the "edit raw watchlist" page also times out (has done for years). can i do anything to resolve this?
[19:27:44] <MatmaRex_>	 temporaire: how many pages are you watching?
[19:28:05] <MatmaRex_>	 temporaire: if more than ~10k, you should try unwatching some
[19:28:15] <MatmaRex_>	 this is sadly a known bug :(
[19:28:31] <MatmaRex_>	 temporaire: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39510
[19:28:45] <MatmaRex_>	 temporaire: although i haven't heard about it timing out on viewing special:watchlist itself
[19:29:06] <MatmaRex_>	 temporaire: so either you have like 100k entries, or something is, in fact, newly borked. :)
[19:29:24] <temporaire>	 Matma: i don't know. some large number. i've created loads.
[19:29:42] <MatmaRex_>	 temporaire: approximate? it is always shown at the top of the watchlist
[19:29:49] <MatmaRex_>	 if you manage toget it to load :)
[19:30:21] <temporaire>	 100k is within the realms of possibility
[19:30:31] <MatmaRex_>	 heh
[19:31:02] <temporaire>	 hmmm well never mind. might be a nice feature to export and reimport the watchlist, instead of having to open it in a web page
[19:31:14] <temporaire>	 i'll see if i can view it tomorrow :> thanks.
[19:31:25] <MatmaRex_>	 i'm afraid the watchlist was not designed to handle such numbers
[19:31:37] <MatmaRex_>	 annd he's gone. oh well.