but I'm happy to see that there's support for a patch_in_gerrit status [11:12:59] hi, anybody around who knows about the sul-rename? [11:58:37] does wikimedia host a bug tracker for toolserver projects somewhere, i.e. a redmine instance for those folks? [11:59:19] with a bug tracker per project, so if someone runs an rss bot he gets a bug tracker, and if someone runs an irc bot he gets another one, etcetera [12:27:56] no [12:29:21] gry: no, the toolserver uses Jira, [12:30:23] can anyone register a new project at toolserver jira if it's related to wikimedia? [12:36:33] gry: if its related to a toolserver tool, yes [13:31:10] hi [13:31:20] I'm getting Wikimedia Error frequently [13:31:45] Request: GET http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88/%E6%9D%A1%E7%9B%AE%E6%8E%A2%E8%AE%A8&action=edit§ion=41, from 10.64.0.142 via cp1015.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to () [13:31:45] Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno [No Error] at Wed, 08 May 2013 13:30:30 GMT [13:32:03] hello [13:32:05] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Servers_playing_up [13:32:14] ^^ we hav actually problems [13:32:44] and loas verry slow....^^ [13:36:12] Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/WhereverTV&action=history, from 10.64.0.140 via cp1014.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to () [13:36:14] Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno (11) Resource temporarily unavailable at Wed, 08 May 2013 13:35:41 GMT [13:38:33] Grr. [13:40:18] /join #wikipedia [13:43:48] PING pt.wikipedia.org (91.198.174.225) 56(84) bytes of data ->.64 bytes from mwl.wikipedia.org (91.198.174.225): icmp_req=1 ttl=57 time=68.0 ms [13:44:16] so pinging pt.wikipedia, we get mwl.wikipedia o.O [13:45:43] Pinging any wiki should get you the loadbalancer [13:47:27] <^demon> I ping the load balancer directly ;-) [13:50:14] Hello. Problem with French servers? [13:50:30] problem generally, being worked on [13:50:31] yes, the problem is they're french [13:51:06] <^demon> I knew we should've stuck to italian servers. [13:55:01] apergos: where it comes from? [13:55:20] Broken switch seemingly [13:55:21] switch problem [13:55:23] closedmouth, it's a very bad joke [13:56:00] french people? i agree [14:07:33] is it just me, or does the own js and css not load? [14:10:04] Wiki13: I had this problem as well, status says "bits not loading --> no CSS", now it seems to be working [14:11:07] but my own js doesn´t load aswell [14:11:25] isn´t that something seperate? [14:11:54] Wiki13: bits.wikimedia.org (the CSS/JS server) is having intermittents error, it's normal [14:12:48] why does enwiki have the gadget section in preferences [14:12:52] and nlwiki not? [14:13:15] that´s just strange [14:13:28] compare http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:Voorkeuren with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences [14:13:39] and you´ll see that on nlwiki that section is missing [14:14:53] Wiki13: that's strange, they have defined some gadgets: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition [14:15:09] yea [14:17:28] Regarding http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Etiquette - does it matter to Wikipedia sysops whether API requests come from individual clients (using a native or web app that integrates data from Wikipedia) or whether they come from a single IP that proxies requests from the clients? [14:21:13] robertknight: Not really. But if you can control all those, just be mindful [14:21:17] Depends really on what you're requesting [14:25:46] Reedy: Use case is a feature that allows users to select some text in a document viewer and (manually trigger) search based on that using W's full text search API. Proxying the request through a central sever would allow us to tweak the query, re-rank results etc. but I wanted to check that having requests come from a small IP range (vs. many individual clients) was OK. [14:30:53] quit [14:36:51] could some tech look at http://www.wikipedia.org/ ? [14:37:04] it doesn´t seem to load CSS properly [14:37:20] Yes [14:37:52] Works fine for me, but there are known issues still ongoing [14:38:07] mhm [14:39:07] Reedy: aside from one mc being depooled, there's nothing that should still affect anything though [14:40:00] Mashing F5 a few times made it stop loading CSS [15:06:31] who is good to talk to about RTL issues? curious if a stylized ? icon needs a seperate RTL version [15:08:56] no time to wait! [15:10:45] lol [16:37:26] the absence of gadgets could be one of the intermittent errors here mentioned? [16:37:44] i don't even have the Gadgets tab in prefs [16:37:47] malafaya: null edit MediaWiki:Gadget-definition [16:37:57] It's related to the memcached error earlier [16:38:22] Reedy, thanks, it solved it [16:38:24] This has actually been happening on and with gadgets for numerous months and there is a bug for it [16:38:46] Because when it can't get it from memcacehd, it should really make the list and then repopulate memcached after... [16:39:03] sounds reasonable [16:39:46] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37228 [16:52:07] You're invited! Wikimedia Office hours with the Language Engineering team in a few minutes in #wikimedia-office. [16:57:51] any suggestions on who best to talk to about RTL issues? I'm trying to find out if a stylized '?' icon needs an RTL version [16:58:32] ebernhardson: the message directly preceeding yours is: You're invited! Wikimedia Office hours with the Language Engineering team in a few minutes in #wikimedia-office. [16:58:38] heh [16:58:45] ori-l++ [16:59:03] a_haroni (mangling the nick to avoid a late night ping) is the undisputed authority on all things RTL [16:59:05] ori-l: hmm, sounds appropriate i suppose :) thanks [16:59:33] ebernhardson: Do ask that question in a bit in #wikimedia-office, please. It's a good case. [16:59:40] ebernhardson: how's the first couple weeks going, otherwise? [17:00:43] greg-g: left-to-right :) [17:00:51] greg-g: going well, the process here is different than i'm used to but getting a feel for everything. Slowly getting some code actually pushed out past review :) [17:01:04] ori-l: zing [17:01:15] ebernhardson: awesome! [17:01:16] siebrand: ok [17:01:27] ebernhardson: in what way is it different for you, if you don't mind me asking? [17:02:23] greg-g: well, at my last place there were 3 devs on the team and i built > 50% of the app. Generally pushing code live meant merge master, and run the deploy tool :) [17:02:55] ebernhardson: heh, yeah, a little different then [17:02:58] greg-g: i can certainly see the benefit here though, its a much larger organization [17:03:01] * greg-g nods [17:12:14] gadgets tab is no more on pt.wp user preferences, known bug? [17:12:47] try a null edit of uh [17:13:06] MediaWiki:Gadget-definition [17:13:32] known bug as in we had a little memcache hiccup earlier which affected some gadgets appearing [17:19:39] apergos: still not working MediaWiki:Gadget-definition ? [17:20:51] Gadgets-definition sorry [17:21:03] yeah just open it and save it [17:22:08] now it's working, thanks apergos [17:22:15] sure [17:52:41] hello [17:53:07] hi rm [17:53:53] I am seeing IPv6 HTTP connections hanging, either silently right after open, or after some content received [17:54:10] only from one DC out of ~6 tested [17:54:11] rm: how long have you been seeing this? [17:54:21] so it's some kind of a localized problem [17:54:21] andre__: ping ^^ [17:54:40] where physically are you? [17:55:38] in my logs I see that a HTTP fetch succeeded 2 hours ago [17:55:43] and I see a failed one 30 minutes ago [17:55:51] and all are failing (hanging) right now [17:55:56] the problematic DC is in Germany [17:56:18] my IP there is 2a02:e00:ffff:78::def:58a5 [17:56:38] like I said I tried from like six other hosts around the world, and all others are fine [17:56:43] soo maybe it's one particular route [18:00:03] mark: because you're on the interrupts rotation right now and andre__ does not seem to be responding, I ask you to look at what rm is saying [18:04:11] rm: sounds like some MTU issue? [18:04:35] what are you connecting to specifically? [18:09:14] mark, indeed it does, I am on a VPS with native IPv6 [18:09:16] MTU 1500 [18:09:22] ok [18:09:34] i assume you're connecting to esams from germany? [18:09:43] 2620:0:862::/48 [18:11:17] apergos: lots of mc errors for the gadgets key [18:11:32] yesterday [18:11:40] Trying 2620:0:861:ed1a::1... <- [18:11:41] but they were from tampa [18:12:22] apergos: which seemed pretty broken, though no one around new how to deal with DC traffic issue [18:12:41] mark: why would tampa be getting enwiki traffic anyway? [18:13:29] ah that's eqiad [18:14:02] AaronSchulz: good question, it shouldn't [18:14:12] like 50 apaches [18:14:43] each has thousands of that gadgets-definition mc error, so it wasn't just a smattering of traffic [18:14:51] that is really bizarre [18:17:12] strange [18:17:18] ganglia shows bursts of traffic in pmtpa indeed [18:17:38] zgrep -P "srv\d\d+" -o archive/memcached-serious.log-20130507.gz | sort | uniq -c [18:18:22] it can't really be from squid [18:18:26] why does this channel not have pastebin in the title, rarr [18:18:42] p.defau.lt [18:18:56] http://pastebin.com/cV2rwBzF [18:19:16] srv193 is test, that makes sense [18:19:18] that's still in squid [18:19:22] but the others shouldn't be [18:19:26] right, that's the only one I can see that makes sense [18:21:21] AaronSchulz: When did they start? [18:21:29] perhaps some squid came up with a really old config? [18:21:32] that would be bad [18:21:48] I did run apache-fast-test against pmtpa apaches earlier today... [18:21:50] that many? [18:21:58] i did the whole list for consistency [18:22:31] ahh [18:22:34] it's reedy [18:33:38] rm: I'm not seeing an MTU issue to that ip right now [18:34:03] please let us know if it persists, it's kind of hard to test otherwise [18:34:39] retested just now, seems to have started working fine [18:53:25] will keep an eye on it and report if it returns, thanks o/ [19:06:28] Reedy: I, uh, don't know what your comment on that board vote bug means :) I assume it is a file name.... but more than that.... [19:12:03] It's what the vote name should be internally ;) [19:14:32] Reedy: ahhh, gotcha, thanks :) [19:14:37] * greg-g whistles [19:36:30] * yurik is looking for a meta admin... [19:37:00] yurik: What do you need? [19:37:11] hoo, hi, could you check if you can edit http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Zero:639-07 [19:37:16] (please don't edit) [19:37:28] just see if you have "edit" or "view source" [19:37:30] AaronSchulz: job queue length still dropping [19:37:36] http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/graph_all_periods.php?c=Miscellaneous%20pmtpa&h=www.wikimedia.org&r=hour&z=default&jr=&js=&st=1368034432&v=1516493&m=Global_JobQueue_length&z=large [19:37:44] yurik: I can't [19:38:24] hoo, can you see/change page protection, etc? [19:38:48] yurik: Of course not, as those features only work if you can edit ;) [19:39:06] hoo, just checking - we really need to make sure the Zero namespace is locked down :( [19:39:31] hoo, thx! [19:40:45] yurik: No problem... I just wonder why you put stuff that belongs into the extension into a wiki [19:41:17] hoo, this is configuration stuff for all wikipedias, and needs to be rapidly updatable [19:41:34] lol [19:41:43] plus must have history and all other useful "wiki" functionality, plus must be on the same cluster [19:41:46] hence - meta :) [19:41:56] already had that discussion a few monhs ago :) [19:42:06] Sounds a little hacky :P [19:42:21] Welcome to Wikimedia [19:50:53] greg-g: guess what... :D [19:50:59] I need an LD window [19:51:23] for an unspecified attack against centralnotice [20:03:17] mwalker: You could just do it now due to it's nature [20:03:23] There's no one scheduled for the next 2 hours [20:03:29] oh -- well then [20:03:42] I'll do that [20:36:23] OK, ridiculous question: I requested deploy access and the RT ticket, to my knowledge, was closed, but I can't SSH from fenari into srv\d* [20:36:31] Why on earth [20:41:02] mwalker: what Reedy said [20:41:09] mwalker: what Reedy said (sorry,w as at lunch) [20:42:54] mutante: Ah, never mind, can do it via ProxyCommand locally [20:42:59] Er [20:43:06] * marktraceur sighs at forgetting to unhighlight people [20:43:08] Sorry mutante [20:46:25] kaldari: Want to do this on 6, or just digitally, or $place? [20:46:56] I can meet you at your desk downstairs [20:47:01] WFM [20:54:26] Agent forwarding type issues really ;) [20:56:33] Reedy: Hm? [20:57:05] Wait, mwalker, are you deploying something? [20:57:11] No, he's done [20:57:20] Ah geez, good [20:57:36] There *is* someone scheduled now, it's me [20:58:39] I'm just all blocked by A) failure to prepare and B) lack of a helpful kaldari [20:58:43] lol [20:59:01] His was still higher priority [20:59:03] Mostly the first one right now [20:59:10] Well [20:59:15] Fair enough [20:59:24] It's not like it interrupted yours anyway :) [20:59:46] Reedy: 'm just saying [21:01:20] proper preparation... [21:01:21] :D [21:02:04] Reedy: This would be why I scheduled plenty of time. First deploy and all. [21:03:07] marktraceur: one minute.... [21:04:03] *nod* no rush, I'm just working on getting the code into the deployment branch [21:05:10] Hah, not in the deployment group. [21:05:27] * marktraceur is glad he never had to deploy for VisualEditor, it would not have gone well [21:05:55] on my way down [21:06:10] any ETA on the bits related issue? [21:06:31] ^demon: James_F claims you can add me to the deployment group on Gerrit [21:07:35] <^demon> marktraceur: Indeed, one sec. [21:07:43] kaldari: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/62917/ [21:49:39] Successful first deploy, thanks for the backup kaldari [21:51:07] marktraceur: you mean you failed at failing? [21:52:53] greg-g: Immensely, it looks like. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard [21:57:23] i see a fatal exeption at foundationwiki's preferences [21:58:03] *exception [21:59:56] Base: I dont' have an account there, I assume you mean user prefs? [22:00:25] yeah [22:00:42] my account is just created [22:00:42] I'm not sure who has an account there who is also in here.... [22:01:08] Scaru [22:01:13] At least thehelpfulone [22:01:30] hmm? [22:01:32] 2013-05-08 22:00:59 mw1048 foundationwiki: [12dd3fed] /wiki/Special:Preferences Exception from line 112 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf3/includes/Preferences.php: Global default 'default' is invalid for field upwiz_maxsimultaneous [22:01:38] kaldari: marktraceur ^^ [22:01:39] You broke shizz [22:01:52] marktraceur: oops [22:01:55] Nooo, it was working so well [22:01:59] ooh [22:02:18] * marktraceur swears, fixes [22:02:37] marktraceur: lemme know if you need a review [22:02:43] Will do [22:03:59] kaldari, if it was broken on enwiki someone might think it's a conspiracy theory to stop people enabling RBoDs :D [22:04:41] :) [22:10:23] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48278 is this known? [22:10:30] (gadgets getting "lost") [22:10:43] i vaguely recall it being mentioned here today [22:10:57] kaldari: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62930 [22:12:23] +2ed [22:12:38] MatmaRex_: yes, see Reedy's comment he just left ;) [22:12:40] MatmaRex_: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37228 [22:12:43] merged [22:13:33] Reedy: greg-g: ah, good [22:13:35] well, not good [22:13:57] but i feel reassured [22:14:05] We had memcached issues earlier today [22:15:04] kaldari: And https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62931 [22:15:32] merged [22:18:29] Frustrating that I would have caught that if I'd thought to hit Special:Preferences [22:18:47] browser tests ftw [22:18:55] Loads now [22:18:56] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences [22:19:10] Let the sync-common finish, then I'll sync the file I changed [22:23:32] marktraceur: so, serious question for when your post-fixing: why didn't browser tests find this? I'm trying to find something that would catch this here: https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/ (but man are we in a stormy situation right now) [22:24:12] greg-g: We didn't run the browser tests before deploying, and if they ran after the patch got mergified I didn't see it [22:24:16] Any one from WikiMedia online ? [22:24:22] AaronNGray: Hi [22:24:38] I cannot seem to get password reset emails. [22:24:41] Hi [22:24:58] {{done}} fixed Special:Preferences [22:25:06] marktraceur: thanks for fixing it [22:25:09] AaronNGray: From what site? [22:25:23] en.wikipedia.org [22:25:43] tried three times now [22:25:55] with 24 hour or moer delays [22:25:57] more [22:26:44] Are you sure the email you have set is correct? [22:27:05] I pretty sure as I have used it before [22:27:25] shall I give you details [22:27:34] Not in the public channel! [22:27:37] okay [22:27:48] The preferences seems to work - thanks for fix [22:27:55] I forgot we ask for username AND email to get a reset [22:27:58] * Reedy tests [22:28:16] Base: My pleasure, having contributed to the break :) [22:28:19] is there a en.wikipedia.org email address for support as I could not find one [22:28:43] AaronNGray: With any luck Reedy can reproduce the bug, and you won't need to [22:28:51] Probably something that ends up in OTRS [22:28:52] oh great [22:28:58] Nope, I got mine almost instantly [22:29:05] oh weird [22:29:13] What's you username? [22:29:20] AaronNGray [22:30:11] Email set and confirmed [22:30:21] And says you asked for a new password at 20130508214459 [22:30:46] yes [22:31:09] I don'y seem to be recieving one though [22:31:27] Checked spam/junkmail etc? [22:31:33] have done [22:31:52] Ah [22:31:57] other emails are coming in (all the obvious questions) [22:31:58] ? [22:32:04] yep [22:32:06] Your email seems to be using a defunct domain [22:32:08] :-) [22:32:11] * Reedy looks a the mx record [22:32:16] hummm [22:32:19] its is gmail [22:32:40] The one set isn't [22:32:42] It's beeb.net [22:32:56] Which does have MX records back to the BBC [22:33:00] ohg that went out of date 10 years ago [22:33:18] I never knew of that project, huh. [22:33:21] TIL [22:33:31] I though I had moved it to gmail.com years ago [22:34:04] can you move it to aaronngray@gmail.com [22:34:04] greg-g: British Broadcasting Corporation related company [22:34:13] with two n's [22:34:21] Reedy: yeah, read the FAQ (well, looked at) [22:35:00] Reedy: just never knew they did internet access, I guess back then everyone thought it was cool to have banks of modems for people to connect to.. ;) [22:35:26] used to have webhosting and modem based ISP with them [22:35:43] yes :) [22:35:54] 56KBaud [22:36:45] those were the days.... [22:36:48] The emails are still going somewhere though [22:36:48] http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=mx%3abeeb.net&run=toolpage [22:36:57] yeah [22:37:09] probably all spam [22:37:16] its might be a spam catcher [22:37:35] oooh, symantec cloud [22:37:41] right [22:39:36] Do you know what your old email was? [22:39:45] angray@beeb.net [22:42:27] Try and get a password reset email again [22:42:37] okay [22:43:17] "The username AaronNGray is not registered on this wiki, but it does exist in the unified login system." [22:43:30] ... [22:43:32] Shall I rejoin ? [22:44:06] Well that's a lie. I can see your user record right infront of me [22:44:14] weird [22:44:32] MediaWiki has learned how to lie. We're all doomed. [22:44:34] "but it does exist in the unified login system." [22:44:41] lol [22:44:49] not lol [22:44:51] I just got "A password reminder has already been sent within the last 24 hours. To prevent abuse, only one password reminder will be sent per 24 hours." [22:45:09] thats the message I was getting [22:47:03] Ah, it's still cached [22:47:09] right [22:48:09] you can delete him from memcached [22:48:33] Platonides: Indeed. I used invalidateCache() earlier [22:49:10] FUCK [22:49:12] FSEOPJMNNWERFpio'jr3w2'p;jiorw2309-[UJR3W2q[90-j2QRW3 [22:49:27] Wrong bastion [22:51:16] AaronNGray: Try and reset it again again [22:51:23] okays [22:51:43] "The username AaronNGray is not registered on this wiki, but it does exist in the unified login system." [22:52:04] * greg-g walks away slowly [22:52:33] A password reset email has been sent. [22:52:36] About time [22:52:40] AaronNGray: Check your emails! [22:52:57] nothing yet [22:53:05] greg-g: This is IRC, you don't have to walk away to be useless, you can just lurk! [22:53:08] * marktraceur submerges [22:53:23] * greg-g swings marktraceur [22:53:40] na nothing [22:54:02] Haa [22:54:20] Context: I'm in a hammock behind greg-g [22:55:04] Ok, I'm getting confused now [22:55:18] its PHP you are meant to be confused ! [22:55:32] lol [22:56:00] PHP and MySQl go together like a dream, not. [22:56:45] Sorry I have tried to get the Math's plugin to work on my own mediawiki wiki [22:58:32] probably best to delete my account and I can start again as there are only going to be very very old wiki mods by me. [23:09:18] We can't/don't delete accounts [23:09:37] just recieved email ! [23:09:39] Yay [23:09:45] I'm going to go and headdesk somewhere now [23:10:37] "Incorrect password entered. Please try again. " [23:10:48] Problem exists between head and desk [23:10:50] no no ! [23:12:38] ghost in the system [23:56:15] why is flashblock on the mainpage of commons? [23:56:21] (for me) [23:57:05] ooooo, nvm, I had "block HTML5 video as well" [23:57:26] but not "block silverlight as well"? boy is that a dumb default