[15:06:35] https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin Why does this have a wikipedia logo? [15:07:31] Krenair: i'm pretty sure there's a bug for this [15:07:41] lazy designers. ;) [15:08:59] https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin even worse [15:14:05] MatmaRex, Susan just filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47648 [15:14:08] Krenair: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47648 [15:14:10] ah [15:14:32] i'm pretty sure i saw this before [15:15:32] Krenair: i saw this before, in fact: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35994 [15:15:49] apparently a different thing [15:16:06] but at least i know my brain is not broken :) [16:18:53] [[Tech]]; Fluff; /* javascript error in load.php when using wikiLove */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5427515&oldid=5416377&rcid=4113436 [16:19:23] yay..... [16:19:47] [[Tech]]; Legoktm; /* javascript error in load.php when using wikiLove */ cmt; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5427531&oldid=5427515&rcid=4113452 [16:20:32] legoktm: thanks :) [16:20:38] np [16:20:56] there's a huge discussion on commons VP and enwiki's WP:VPT if you want more reading :P [16:21:16] legoktm: not really using it so i'll skip along to other pages :) [16:21:44] :) [16:24:00] [[Tech]]; Fluff; /* javascript error in load.php when using wikiLove */ thanks; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5427550&oldid=5427531&rcid=4113471 [19:12:17] anyone else using the vagrant setup for mediawiki from gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/vagarnt? Basically its running very slow(as verified by next desk over, who runs it on bare metal) taking 10-15s to render Main_Page. Where should i start looking for reasons? [19:12:56] errr, vmstat? [19:13:01] top [19:14:51] top doesn't show anything too itneresting, the vagarnt install runs with php inside apache, which uses ~20% cpu while rendering [19:15:13] vmstat while rendering, tbh i'm not sure what i'm looking for. It doesn't go into swap or anything like that [19:15:28] you haven't modified anything at all? it's just a vanilla install? [19:15:40] i got a LocalSettings.php from Ryan Kaldari, thats only change [19:15:54] so it has maybe 6 or 7 extensions, and various debug flags turned on [19:16:31] also i upped the memory in the VM from 512M to 1G to see if it would help, but no change [19:16:36] well obvious first step is try without those additions [19:16:47] and see if it's still slow or not [19:17:29] hmm, ok removed the changed settings from /vagrant/settings/, still takes 10+s to load :( [19:18:06] OS? [19:18:36] i'm on ubuntu 12.04, the vm is also 12.04 [19:18:53] the machine is a 2Ghz i7(that should turbo up to 2.9) w/8G mem [19:19:57] does it have NOS? [19:20:05] not sure what NOS is :) [19:20:41] hi ebernhardson [19:20:47] sumanah: hi [19:20:53] Welcome :D [19:21:06] thanks! slowly getting everything in place here [19:21:08] ebernhardson: bad joke, http://www.holley.com/index.asp?division=nos [19:22:07] greg-g: ahh, i thought it might be as much L: [19:23:19] usually, if greg-g chimes in randomly in a conversation, it is most likely because he thought of a bad/corny joke he had to share [19:23:48] 25 17:50:47 < jeremyb_> (how would you normally check for memory pressure?) [19:23:51] 25 17:52:03 < greg-g> I have a bike pump you can borrow [19:24:03] see? [19:24:12] :) [19:24:20] it happens everywhere [19:49:47] kaldari: Hey, are you starting your window early or sometihng? [19:49:55] or, late? [19:50:04] hah, coffee.wm.o [19:50:32] kaldari, ori-l: Mind if I sneak in a mini-deployment somewhere between the two of you? In 10 minutes (at 1pm) kaldari's window ends and ori-l's starts [19:51:00] we're going to running a scap probably right at 1 [19:51:02] :( [19:51:20] RoanKattouw: superm401's doing our deployment; I think we can add an extra 10 minute gap. superm401? [19:51:30] OK that would be good [19:51:40] kaldari: Can I sneak into that maybe? I just have a 1-line JS change [19:51:47] sure [19:51:56] kaldari, we'll wait. [19:52:01] Keep us posted [19:52:26] OK [19:52:30] No need for superm401 to wait then [19:52:36] kaldari: I'm sneaking in that change right now [19:52:42] So just wait a few minutes to scap till I'm done [19:52:43] RoanKattouw: cool [19:52:49] And I'll ride your scap [19:52:55] we're still testing stuff on test [19:53:31] Let me know when the scap is done. [19:56:51] kaldari: OK I've updated php-1.22wmf2/extensions/VisualEditor [19:56:57] It's ready to ride on your scap whenever it happens [19:57:16] it's updated on fenari? [19:57:19] Yes [19:57:25] I ran git pull and git submodule update on fenari [19:57:29] ok, we'll scap now then [19:57:35] Alright go for it [19:59:27] ebernhardson: now that mine is finally up and working main page loads in ~270ms [19:59:33] i assume there's some memcache involved [20:06:45] !log payments cluster updated from 7f70ccd580d to fdf308c8f [20:06:52] Logged the message, Master [20:27:07] are there any objections to removing blogs not updated since 2010 from Wikimedia Planet [in Polish]? [20:27:20] ankry, MatmaRex, saper? [20:27:57] Thehelpfulone, Nemo_bis, jeremyb_ also here [20:28:15] Why remove them? [20:28:22] i was never active there [20:28:24] never even read it [20:28:39] at least for en., if they someday get updated, I'd like to see them on the planet -- I figure it's similar for Polish [20:28:56] this is one of the wonderful things about RSS :) [20:29:21] Yes, I'm thinking in general, but just mentioned the language just to be on the safe side [20:30:22] some haven't been updated since 2008, and just have a lot of spam [20:30:47] so there isn't any particular value in keeping them linked, methinks [20:31:36] methinks it's probably a case by case decision [20:33:06] I feared that. [20:34:17] sumanah, jeremyb_ I'll let it rot then [20:34:52] spam? ok, I didn't know about the spam odder [20:35:02] if they're spammy, remove them, IMO [20:35:07] spam as in comments, obviously [20:35:08] right [20:35:36] you can't really spam a blog hosted on a blog farm /that easily/ [20:35:47] odder: don't remove them, period [20:36:02] (my opinion) [20:36:20] maybe after 10 or 20 years [20:37:20] ah well, so be it then & rot in peace [20:38:12] peace is always good [20:40:25] Nemo_bis: i don't think so... IMO [20:41:05] nah, people bothered too much about rotting historically [20:46:14] superm401: scap is finished [20:46:23] kaldari, thanks [21:10:34] odder ? [21:28:25] any visual editor wizard around? [21:28:42] matanya: They got an own channel [21:28:47] (not that I know the name :P) [21:29:03] yes, i can't recall it too :) [21:29:05] #mediawiki-parsoid [21:29:11] thanks sumanah [21:29:41] that's more parsoid-centric than VE-centric [21:29:58] for the visual editor portion, try #mediawiki-visualeditor [21:35:53] greg-g: derp https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deployments&diff=67990&oldid=67975 [21:38:24] you guys are deploying the captcha refresh today? [21:38:37] StevenW: ^ [21:39:32] kaldari: yes, see the diff [21:39:42] Yeehaw, that's awesome [21:40:05] finally the editor engagement problem is solved! [21:40:09] people can create new accounts :) [21:41:23] people or bots, kaldari ? [21:41:37] the more the merrier ;) [21:42:26] you should be a steware a few days before saying that kaldari :) [21:42:58] no way, too much stess :) [21:43:01] stress [21:43:27] but those guys love bot hunting, right? [21:43:53] I personly do [21:44:12] it's like T2, but ferreal [21:44:19] good for that stats :P [21:44:48] I mean 'for real' [21:47:16] well, kaldari you might enjoy it, you never know [21:52:12] anyone know a php analysis tool that informs me I'm not using enough whitespace? I was thinking phpcs but the MediaWiki codesniffer standard doesn't complain about things like function foo($bar) (which should be function foo( $bar ) ) [21:53:15] spacey..... ebernhardson so the MediaWiki "stylize.php" isn't getting you where you need to be? [21:53:20] ebernhardson: I don't, but they have been experimenting with having the codesniffer do it, so that might be coming soon [21:53:35] sumanah: not sure what that is, looking now :) [21:53:48] I don't know about that either [21:53:48] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/tools/code-utils.git;a=blob;f=stylize.php;hb=HEAD [21:54:49] oh cool [21:54:50] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions/PHP#Spaces mentions it [21:54:52] trying it out [22:11:40] heh, i cant use the stylizer because it fixes parts of the file that i havn't touched :P [22:13:36] that's usually a reasonable indication your indenting is about right [22:13:38] *spaciung [22:14:15] nod [23:04:15] ori-l, spagewmf -- how goes your deployment? [23:04:33] I think we're done, but superm401's the man [23:04:44] Done [23:04:50] awesome [23:04:53] ebernhardson: For general vagrant questions, you want to talk to ori-l. [23:05:13] greg-g: I'm pushing the new emoticons -- RoanKattouw -- I'll be done in about five and I guess your next [23:05:49] Susan: did you see my reply? [23:06:04] ~20 UTC [23:06:37] Krenair: Issues with images/upload? [23:07:14] haven't heard anything [23:07:38] Oh, I thought you added that to the channel topic. [23:07:54] jeremyb_: I skimmed over it. Something about top. [23:07:59] mwalker: I'm still debugging some code so I may go a bit later anyways [23:08:02] mwalker: Emoticons? [23:08:06] Susan: no. see 20 UTC [23:08:18] jeremyb_: I don't know what 20 UTC. [23:08:19] is [23:08:32] 20h wikipedia standard time [23:08:37] hurrrrrrrrrr [23:08:41] 4pm your time [23:08:42] I'll try /clear instead. [23:08:45] Susan, oh. That was ages ago [23:08:59] Susan: err... favicons [23:09:02] Wed Apr 3 02:43:13 2013 [23:09:10] mwalker: Hehhhhhh, k. [23:09:20] Isarra: they're live [23:09:22] Krenair: I was hitting upload issues on Commons today and filed a bug, that's why I ask. [23:09:27] fixed [23:09:32] status --> status.wikimedia.org [23:09:48] Crowded topic is crowded. [23:09:52] RoanKattouw -- kk; well, I'm out so whenever you're ready I think you're good to go [23:09:55] greg-g: ^ [23:10:12] mwalker: awesomesauce [23:10:17] like that, Susan? [23:10:23] Better. :-) [23:10:33] I think we should use /Tech a bit better for the bugs and pastebin links. [23:10:46] But I'll look at that the next time I'm annoyed at the channel topic length. [23:10:51] Thx. [23:11:09] * Susan applies /clear liberally. [23:11:55] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47670 is the upload issue I'm hitting. [23:36:53] mwalker: Whoo! [23:36:55] What are? [23:37:22] Isarra: all your new favicons :p [23:38:09] Cool! [23:39:28] is that all of them? I feel like you've touched every major project [23:49:24] spagewmf: around? [23:50:22] sumanah: wtf, why does the vector watchlist have no sides or top? <--- well here's my answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=552195637&oldid=516328071 [23:50:38] * jeremyb_ uses monobook normally [23:50:41] remember that? :) [23:55:34] mwalker: There are some secondary ones, but those are less important.