[00:09:41] Reedy: are there any pages in particular you like to use on mediawiki.org for testing to make sure deployments went ok? i'm looking for a relatively long/complex article on mediawiki.org that we can point potential mobile testers to to help us test a change [00:09:49] Hmmm, usually you should use a test wiki for tests. ;-) [00:09:56] Unless you really need to use a production wiki. [00:12:04] unfortunately no "Obama" on mediawiki, has been deleted '(Out of project scope)' heh [00:12:25] * Jasper_Deng wonders if mutante can look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46772 [00:12:28] Susan: indeed, and we need to test in production :) [00:13:30] how about http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_support_in_MediaWiki_core :) [00:13:36] not long enough? [00:14:17] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix/AllExtensions long enough? [00:14:47] (... don't actually test on that page. it's just the largest page on the wiki) [00:15:58] Jasper_Deng: does it matter even if it's not used ? [00:16:10] it's sometimes used [00:16:12] Susan: indeed, and we need to test in production :) many people are too lazy to type www [00:16:50] Jasper_Deng: it redirects you though, you mean for people who have ONLY v6 ? [00:16:58] i am not sure i have the answer [00:17:00] it actually doesn't redirect [00:17:11] it does for me [00:17:32] it didn't as recent as last week [00:17:50] < HTTP/1.0 301 Moved Permanently [00:17:50] and it doesn't for http://wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:BlockList [00:17:56] < Location: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page [00:18:08] the index.php one doesn't [00:19:25] then that means it's not load-balanced, this may be related to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49069/ [00:24:24] p858snake|l: I trust that if Arthur says it needs to be tested on mw.org, it does. [00:24:32] I don't really like test2. test[1] is fine. [00:29:32] anyone around? [00:30:43] WikiJunkie: what do you need? [00:31:35] I need to know .... is the Checkuser page relevant for smaller wikis ? [00:31:44] m:CheckUser policy [00:38:57] I was disconnected [00:39:17] I didn't get to see the answer [00:39:53] is the page checkuser relevant for smaller wiki such as the Hebrew Wikivoyage ? [00:41:55] yes [00:42:19] WikiJunkie: to request CheckUser action on that wiki, go to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SRCU [00:43:33] ok thanks [00:47:12] Jasper_Deng: how do I know in which wiki the users are elgiable for Checkuser status and in which wikis the users are not elgiable for Checkuser status? [00:47:28] WikiJunkie: please ask in #wikimedia-stewards [00:47:31] * Jasper_Deng answers there [00:47:48] (after you join) [01:28:51] are there any problems with toollserv? My father called to ask why the "List of Contributors" link in each article history is no longer working [01:29:06] TS is currently changing IP addresses [01:30:09] thank you. Any idea how long it will take? [01:30:12] Jasper_Deng: its already done, but caused issues [01:30:20] They have changed, but there is a unknown issue with how requests are dealt with [01:30:40] Dragonfly6-7: there was some collateral damage, need to figure out what broke exactly [01:30:59] okay [01:32:12] you could lurk in #wikimedia-toolserver [01:34:53] Betacommand: also, strangely, TS once again has an AAAA record, and can be pinged via IPv6, but can't be browsed using IPv6 [01:36:01] heh [01:39:45] okay, my dad is satisfied by this explanation -- it's not just him who's having a problem, it's a systemic issue and it's being dealt with [07:58:07] ping [07:58:12] [[Tech]]; Closedmouth; /* w:User:Drilnoth/delresized.js| */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5397048&oldid=5394005&rcid=4075879 [07:58:42] closedmouth: pong [07:58:48] racist [08:11:01] more pings [08:11:07] [[Tech]]; Closedmouth; /* Classic skin and CSS */ clear; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5397069&oldid=5397048&rcid=4075905 [08:59:22] andre__: will you also close the components for new reports? [09:00:05] Nemo_bis, yes [09:18:00] ok [11:33:46] andre__: erm? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=12116&action=edit [11:55:59] Nemo_bis, hmm, I'll check [11:56:05] might be spamming [11:56:08] thanks for noticing me [12:26:15] Nemo_bis, it's odd. I wonder what it may contain [12:26:37] looks like garbage [12:29:04] yep [12:44:42] Platonides: hack the gibson and steal the garbage file? [13:48:49] i can't see the garbage [16:04:55] Reedy: hey! I have a question about profiling. I can't see anything from dispatchChanges on https://noc.wikimedia.org/cgi-bin/report.py [16:05:04] Is profiling enabled for stuff running from cron at all? [16:05:20] I'm really not sure.. [16:05:25] Or perhaps it'S enabled, but only for one in 1000 cron runs? [16:05:35] So, who do i poke about this? [16:05:45] it would be very useful for us to get the profiling info from the live site [16:07:23] I'd presume profiling would be enabled (as it should be everywhere), but like you say, could be falling fowl of the frequency [16:54:39] robla: hi rob! [16:55:01] we could really use some profiling data on the dispatcher cron jobs... i don't see them in the profiling report. [16:55:21] perhaps profiling isn't enabled for them, or only sampled? reedy didn't seem to know when I asked earlier [16:56:20] is it possible to have some lines of config specifically for CLI use? Or even better, specifically for use by a specific entry point, like dispatchChanges.php? [16:57:27] hi DanielK_WMDE: I'm not sure myself. Aaron|home, thoughts? [17:03:23] DanielK_WMDE: it's 1/50 script calls [17:03:58] cli scripts used to not actually log the data, though that changed a few months ago [17:04:24] it would make more sense being 1:1 and being on a different set of profile IDs [17:05:18] I changed that a few months ago :) [17:05:30] Aaron|home: yes, that would be very helpful. [17:05:36] how can we make that happen? [17:06:37] Aaron|home: i'd suggest to open a bug report... could you do that? I'm note sure what exactly needs to be done, or who could do it. [17:09:33] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59425 [17:10:57] A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "HTMLCacheUpdateJob::invalidateTitles". Database returned error "1213: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (10.64.16.8)". [17:11:40] happened once while trying to delete a file on Commons [17:12:12] It's gone through now [17:13:43] easily avoidable with a small code change though [17:27:15] bsitu: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/57649/ [17:33:58] bsitu: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/59430/ [17:37:22] thanks Aaron|home! [18:31:08] Aaron|home, AaronSchulz: hi [19:42:01] * Isarra huggles mwalker and YuviPanda|Meds. [19:42:41] >.> [19:42:42] <.< [19:43:01] I didn't do anything! [19:43:25] You cannot make me admit it! [19:47:27] Isarra: :P [19:47:38] Isarra: does that verb mean 'revert using a windows only tool'? [19:51:35] yes [19:51:43] * petanb|bnc-fu hugs Isarra [19:52:04] * Aaron|home is windows right now [19:54:35] I had to switch back to *nix after we started using symlinks in the fundraising repos [19:54:45] windows + symlinks + git != play nice [19:54:48] It's a hug, man. [19:54:58] A hug across the cables and networks. [19:55:03] huggle is also a tool [19:55:08] but! [19:55:17] aww! [19:55:19] windows + git != play nice [19:55:25] * mwalker bear hugs Isarra in return for the original huggle [19:55:45] * YuviPanda|Meds tickles Isarra in return, offers her code reviews. [19:55:56] <3 [19:56:07] <3 all around [19:56:10] but, uh, what is this for? [19:56:36] Whoa, what did I walk in on [19:56:44] a hug fest [19:57:00] we're all about love and appreciation in this channel today [19:57:00] * Isarra wraps marktraceur in further hugs. [19:57:04] Yes. Yes, that's exactly it. [19:57:25] * marktraceur returns Isarra's hug [19:58:00] mwalker: But no apparent cause? I mean, cool beans that we're all being appreciative, but still [19:59:27] You guys are weird. [20:00:05] * marktraceur drags Krenair into the hugfest [20:00:20] Krenair: :) [20:00:25] It's more fun being weird in good company :) [20:00:43] Krenair: these are mediawiki devs we're talking about... kinda goes without saying [20:03:05] Weird can be good. [20:03:57] unless it's CSS -- in which case ARGGG!!!! [20:04:39] Heh. >.< [20:21:43] Isarra windows and git play nice [20:21:51] msys ftw [20:22:33] reminds me, I may need to update the git-review patch again so git-review -s actually works with msys [20:22:53] * Aaron|home finally broken down and upgraded git review [21:05:54] hello, where's the best place to get help with lua and templates? [21:06:56] xorg [21:07:01] sry [21:07:40] grep2grok: Setting up scribunto or actually writing Lua modules? [23:16:07] hmm [23:59:02] mutante: ping, are you around SF? [23:59:43] qgil: yes [23:59:53] mutante, oook :)