[01:07:47] hahaha [01:07:49] Krenair [01:08:00] We filed the same bug at nearly the same moment [01:08:15] Oh bah. Just a comment. [01:08:25] Sad. I almost had a happy moment from Bugzilla. [01:08:27] umm... [01:08:34] yeah that's a resolved duplicate :) [01:10:36] sorry StevenW [01:11:03] Yeah, you should be so sorry for being helpful and marking bugs as duplicate. [01:11:07] God, you're a terrible person. [01:25:00] Error 503 Service Unavailable [01:25:01] Service Unavailable [01:25:01] Guru Meditation: [01:25:01] XID: 3885303738 [01:25:01] Varnish cache server [01:25:14] oh it's back now [01:25:17] figures >_> [01:26:09] Magog_the_Ogre: is that from upload ? [01:26:22] we are having some network issues on those …. which i am about to fix in the next half hour i think [01:26:24] LeslieCarr, it is from me trying to view an image [01:26:30] yep, that's upload [01:26:30] cool [01:26:35] oh right [01:26:39] yes from upload.wikimedia [01:26:53] yep, the varnish servers are overloaded network-wise [01:27:00] are you always on duty? How is it every time there is an error you're already here fixing it?! [01:27:08] hahaha [01:36:37] I can't load pictures all of a sudden. [01:36:53] It keeps returning 502 Bad Gateway. [01:38:31] known issue, trying to fix this [01:39:06] Cyberpower678, read the above conversation [01:39:28] [[Tech]]; Jlittlenz; ask the suggested serif font question; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5361685&oldid=5279806&rcid=4035940 [01:40:28] Magog_the_Ogre, ^^ [01:40:56] LeslieCarr: Aha, I just came to look here to ask about thumbnails. :-) [01:41:01] I'm getting broken ones on wmfwiki. [01:41:08] Via Commons, I guess. [01:41:43] yep [01:41:47] trying to fix this [01:43:07] ugh. some issues. [01:43:16] there [01:44:27] Hey it's working again. [01:46:35] will be sporadic [01:46:38] [[Tech]]; MZMcBride; /* serif font */ +reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5361687&oldid=5361685&rcid=4035942 [01:46:43] James_F|Away: ^ ;-) [01:47:10] Error 503 Service Unavailable [01:47:10] Service Unavailable [01:47:10] Guru Meditation: [01:47:10] XID: 1319633958 [01:47:13] Nevermind [01:47:37] Hi Cyberpower678. [01:47:55] What the? [01:48:36] "A team of highly skilled monkeys are working on the servers"? [01:48:54] MONKEYS! [01:50:01] Did someone plant an April Fools joke in there? [01:50:44] april 3rd is a bit late for april fools, Cyberpower678 :) [01:51:00] I [01:51:13] I'll rehash: A team of highly skilled monkeys are working on the servers [01:51:38] where did you read that Cyberpower678 [01:54:26] Magog_the_Ogre, when I went to look at a picture from uploads but now it's saying 503 again. [02:20:34] ok now wikimedia isn't responding to me at ALL [02:20:36] I broke Wikipedia!!!!! :/ [02:20:47] urgh [02:20:51] ET http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist, from 10.64.0.132 via cp1015.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to () [02:20:51] Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno [No Error] at Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:20:24 GMT [02:20:55] *GET [02:21:13] "can't reach database server" "unknown error" [02:21:21] amg teh weekee :( [02:21:21] Request: GET http://zh.wikinews.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E6%B1%9F%E8%8B%8F%E7%9C%81%E7%A1%AE%E8%AF%8A4%E4%BE%8B%E4%BA%BA%E7%B1%BB%E6%84%9F%E6%9F%93H7N9%E7%A6%BD%E6%B5%81%E6%84%9F%E7%97%85%E6%AF%92%E7%97%85%E4%BE%8B, from 10.64.0.142 via cp1014.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to () [02:21:23] Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno (11) Resource temporarily unavailable at Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:20:43 GMT [02:21:24] ping wikimedia.org [02:21:24] --- wikimedia.org ping statistics --- [02:21:24] 5 packets transmitted, 3 received, 40% packet loss, time 4002ms [02:21:24] rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 63.414/63.800/64.156/0.367 ms [02:21:26] let's all go complain!!!!! [02:21:31] do it [02:21:37] Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=548419914&oldid=548412005, from 10.64.0.127 via cp1014.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to () [02:21:38] Sure Happy It's Tuesday! [02:21:38] Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno (11) Resource temporarily unavailable at Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:21:05 GMT [02:21:39] Wikipedia is broken now. [02:21:45] my free service is down; I'm outraged [02:21:46] Sounds like fun :P :) [02:21:49] Hi everybody! [02:22:09] Funny enough the images are loading. :p [02:22:09] Magog_the_Ogre: Quick, poke ops with sharpened sticks! :P *ducks* [02:22:30] Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. [02:22:31] Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. [02:22:33] (Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.64.16.6)) [02:22:39] ^this [02:22:45] ^ [02:22:56] You can try searching via Google in the meantime? [02:23:00] That's helpful. [02:23:11] I can't google my watchlist :/ [02:23:12] Specially when I want a diff [02:23:17] use google cache?! [02:23:39] That's what the site's suggesting. [02:23:39] I just got throgh [02:23:41] through [02:23:44] Try now, -operations just went crazy with "Recovery" [02:23:50] Yep, WORKSFORME [02:24:07] Through? [02:24:19] The formatting is all over the place [02:24:39] Cyberpower678: You probably didn't get the full stylesheet... [02:25:05] TimStarling: ^ [02:25:36] Heh, icinga flodded out :P [02:25:46] Working. [02:29:07] hey [02:29:19] ok sorry i am seriously working through these [02:29:27] ther emay be a little more instability [02:29:29] seriously sorry [02:29:36] Ok. Who's been breaking Wikipedia? [02:29:42] :p [02:29:48] not looking at irc a lot because i'm furiously typing away [02:29:58] That's ok, I got _my_ edits in. Hee! ;) [02:36:43] LeslieCarr: THat's all right, keep up the good work! :) [03:02:03] Susan: qchris is CEST fyi [03:02:09] (it's 5am) [03:04:09] jeremyb_: Sorry, not sure what you mean. [03:04:12] Who's qchris? [03:04:38] the guy you just replied to twice [03:04:45] err, 3 times i guess [03:05:12] aka the gerrit guy [03:05:20] Oh, Christian. [03:05:36] Yeah, I've been idling in #gerrit as well. [03:05:51] I'm not sure why my idea for using a page in the MediaWiki namespace was poo-pooed. [03:06:14] for a number of reasons i guess [03:06:19] okay, no more outages should be forthcoming [03:06:37] probably including security and to not introduce dependencies between unrelated systems [03:06:39] The servers have received a stern lecture. [03:06:55] jeremyb_: It's mostly enhancement JavaScript. [03:06:56] LeslieCarr: more tomorrow? :) [03:07:02] oh better not [03:07:03] Susan: i understand [03:07:03] There aren't any real security issues I can see. [03:07:21] Not any more than letting local admins edit site-wide JS. [03:07:26] LeslieCarr: all bonded? [03:07:29] And if mediawiki.org isn't accessible, that's a pretty big problem. [03:07:31] yep [03:07:36] all bonded [03:07:48] Barry Bonded. [03:08:17] Susan: errr? really [03:08:37] Susan: mediawiki.org is one of the earlier sites to get a new branch after it's cut [03:08:40] Really what? [03:08:55] Right. The idea is that people will notice and respond quickly to issues that arise. [03:08:56] Susan: also what if you need gerrit working in order to fix a broken mediawiki.org ? [03:09:09] If it can't serve a basic page, that's an issue of the highest importance. [03:09:18] so therefore mediawiki.org should be less reliable than wikipedia [03:09:46] I hope we're not relying on Gerrit to fix anything. [03:10:09] Anyway, I don't really care how the sausage is made. [03:11:23] jeremyb_: you do know where out code management was done per gerrit days, right? [03:11:28] *our [03:11:31] *pre [03:12:00] p858snake|l_: formey worked ok without [[special:code]] [03:12:41] I'm sure emergency fixes can still be done with gerrit :p [03:13:28] *without [03:13:30] sure [03:13:51] but with gerrit the web interface is more important than with svn [03:14:08] not the end of the world... [03:14:34] but anyway, i think it's fine to have gerrit in it's current role and not fine to have gerrit rely on mediawikiwki [03:15:50] yeah, also it would be difficult to merge gerrit and mediawiki [03:18:34] jeremyb_: "Rely" is a strong word. [03:18:51] ok [03:18:54] bbl [08:09:37] [[Tech]]; Jlittlenz; /* serif font */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5362044&oldid=5361687&rcid=4036384 [08:10:02] [[Tech]]; Jlittlenz; /* serif font */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5362047&oldid=5362044&rcid=4036387 [08:18:58] [[Tech]]; Jlittlenz; further comment; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5362056&oldid=5362047&rcid=4036484 [10:47:12] OMG https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Article_feedback/Version_5/Testing#Test_results_from_the_German_Wikipedia [10:48:08] ? [10:49:03] 5 kb of bugs [10:50:23] hmm, that's worth to transfer into bug reports. [10:52:21] Which would require triaging the other 500 bugs of the component... [10:52:38] Probably only someone in AFT team can do it. (Or someone with a lot of time and patience.) [10:56:21] And all that just with 15k articles. :) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Wikipedia:Artikel-Feedback [11:15:46] Transmitting file data .svn: E000013: Commit failed (details follow): [11:15:46] svn: E000013: Can't open file '/svnroot/pywikipedia/db/txn-current-lock': Permission denied [11:16:02] ^demon|zzz: any ideas? [11:19:55] hasn't that moved to git? [11:21:49] TimStarling: they are doing it soon last i heard [11:22:41] not yet :/ [11:25:41] -rw-rw-r-- 1 root svn 0 Sep 20 2008 txn-current-lock [11:26:30] what user are you? [11:26:55] legoktm [11:26:57] who gave you access? [11:27:16] umm ^demon did [11:28:53] well, you're in the wikidev group, and not in the svn group [11:29:27] i've been committing for a while now with no trouble… [11:30:41] did you recently get access to something else? [11:31:25] Coren created a new tool for me on wmflabs [11:31:44] thats all i can think of since the last time i commited [11:34:52] you should ask Coren or Ryan or ^demon about that when they get in [11:35:10] ok, will do [11:35:13] i.e. why you're not in the svn group in labs LDAP and thus can no longer commit to svn [11:35:25] I'm going now [11:35:38] That sounds deja vu with other users.. [11:36:09] thanks for looking into it Tim-away [11:36:25] np [12:10:25] [[Tech]]; Geni; Other requests; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5362355&oldid=5362056&rcid=4036855 [13:06:04] <^demon|zzz> legoktm: I'll take a peek after I have my breakfast. [13:06:16] * legoktm was about to leave for breakfast too :P [13:11:33] killed db-server? Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.64.16.158' (4) on https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Qualit%C3%A4tssicherung/heute [13:11:35] When trying to load https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Martin.vl - I get an error [13:11:43] wikipedia is down :P [13:11:49] (Kan geen verbinding maken met de databaseserver: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.64.16.158' (4)) [13:12:05] (Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.64.16.158' (4)) [13:12:19] gah [13:12:22] just imagine if this happened forever [13:12:39] ah fixed [13:12:40] yay [13:12:54] It was down. It was working for me. [13:13:27] Parser cache [13:13:34] reedy fixed it? [13:13:35] was for me [13:13:37] No [13:13:52] Heh whoever fixed it, MoiraMoira says thank you [13:34:12] [[Tech]]; Patrick; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5362517&oldid=5362355&rcid=4037015 [15:05:24] ^demon: finished your breakfast yet? :) [15:06:05] <^demon> Yep, I'll look now. [15:06:26] thanks [15:11:35] <^demon> Weird, you're in the svn group. [15:14:18] ^demon: should he try again? [15:14:45] <^demon> Well, nothing changed. [15:14:52] <^demon> Presumably it'll still error. [15:15:30] well i thought maybe Tim found he was not in the group. now you and i both see he is in the group [15:15:50] try `groups legoktm` directly on formey [15:16:08] (it is still formey?) [15:18:02] <^demon> Yes. [15:18:06] <^demon> And I'm checking ldap. [15:40:42] no sure if this is the right channel... [15:40:52] how can I get rid of the last 2 lines in https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Especial:Administra%C3%A7%C3%A3o_de_contas_globais/Malafaya ? [15:40:59] apparently, they are closed wikis [15:41:15] any steward should be able to edit it [15:41:22] oh [15:41:27] centralauth [15:41:33] you can't get rid of them [15:41:45] i'm getting a warning about unattached accounts in my porefs [15:41:48] you can still login an per hand merge using Special:MergeAccount [15:42:02] it doesnt allow me to login there [15:42:04] they are locked [15:42:30] malafaya: You can still log in to it [15:42:40] Or not? [15:42:46] works fine for me [15:44:03] malafaya: are these new entries? [15:44:11] malafaya: there is a bug with "magically" unattached accounts [15:44:21] MatmaRex: The accounts are from 08 [15:44:41] ah, okay then. [15:45:20] yes, they are new regarding being unattached [15:45:46] the account creation isn't logged [15:45:47] i can't login in yo.wikt cause it says wrong password [15:45:48] weird [15:45:51] and wrong email address [15:45:58] maybe someone else registered "for me" [15:46:27] No, those aren't per hand registered [15:46:32] really strange since it's locked for years [15:47:34] I can't help you with those as I don't have write access to the databases... sounds similar to the current bug, though [15:48:09] renaming the account will solve the problem? [15:48:15] i can ask in meta [15:48:41] It surely will, yes [15:48:49] ok, thank you [16:05:54] ^demon: any luck? no rush, but if you dont have time to look at it right now ill poke someone else to commit what i was trying to [16:08:33] <^demon> No, I'm not sure what's going on right now. I'll probably poke Ryan when he's around again. [16:08:56] ok, thanks for looking into it [16:16:54] ^demon: ^ [16:17:04] <^demon> I saw. [16:22:32] ^demon: hi :-) Got you a change to review to move translatewiki irc notification out of #mediawiki to #mediawiki-i18n https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/57302/ [16:23:35] <^demon> +1, lgtm. [16:23:53] danke -:] [16:26:55] and I am out [18:46:17] ^demon: it seems people did look at your notices :) http://stats.grok.se/meta.m/latest30/Turning_off_outdated_skins [18:49:38] <^demon> Heh. [18:50:11] Hello. Could someone tell me what the heck is with the watchlist atom feed? [18:50:22] Recently it started to be behave strangely. It shows me edits that were never made. [18:50:38] nyarcel: Wikidata edits, maybe? [18:51:01] No, don't think so. [18:51:42] deleted edits, maybe? [18:51:56] can you link the wiki and the article with such behavior? [18:52:56] Here's my feed: http://ru.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=feedwatchlist&allrev=allrev&wlowner=Nyarcel&wltoken=b37e49f56ec7ed129178283f99180ffd233ffe82&feedformat=atom [18:52:56] You can open the MATE article, for example [18:52:56] http://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MATE&action=history [18:52:56] and see that there were no edits made by Airon90. [18:54:22] Yeah, I'm from the russian wiki, if that matters. [18:54:54] nyarcel: he edited on Wikidata: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q194090&action=history [18:55:04] so that would probably explain it [18:55:35] wasn't there a parameter to disable showing of Wikidata edits? [18:55:37] * MatmaRex looks [18:56:29] hmm, it would seem like there isn't one :/ [18:59:21] BUG [18:59:31] Oh, it really explains it. Didn't think of that. Thanks. [18:59:31] And there is the checkbox in my settings "Show Wikidata edits in your watchlist". [18:59:31] Yet it's not checked... [19:00:13] Try setting it and unsetting it [19:00:16] yeah, it seems like the feed doesn't support some of the watchlist options [19:01:47] Yeah, I'll try. At least I now know where from that strange edits come from. They kind of drove me crazy ) Thanks again. [19:09:17] nyarcel: you should reset your token now that you've told the whole channel [19:09:53] jeremyb_: Yeah, got it. [19:10:42] [[Tech]]; MiszaBot; Robot: Archiving 2 threads (older than 30d) to [[Tech/Archives/2013]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5362881&oldid=5362517&rcid=4037501 [19:54:06] Platonides: around? [20:10:36] what would an error code of {u'servedby': u'mw1124', u'error': {u'info': u'This file did not pass file verification', u'code': u'verification-error', u'details': [u'uploadscripted']}} mean? [[API:Upload]] doesn't explain the possible errors [20:11:41] anomie: any ideas? ^ [20:13:26] legoktm, it sees htmlish code or javascript in your file [20:13:59] oh [20:14:05] legoktm- It's an error from the file upload code, the API is just forwarding it on. It looks like "uploadscripted" means it thinks there's JavaScript or something embedded in your file. [20:14:07] that's…not supposed to happen [20:14:13] See UploadBase::verifyFile [20:14:16] ok [20:14:18] thanks :) [20:14:19] Is it an SVG? [20:14:25] not sure [20:14:36] matanya was the one uploading [20:14:46] im just helping debug the script [20:14:54] no, it is jpgs [20:15:22] stream: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/nationalarchives/sets/72157632852167515 [20:15:56] huh, jpeg [20:16:32] The purpose of this check is to filter out files which some browsers may confuse with HTML/JS (which would be a security risk) [20:16:33] identify: no decode delegate for this image format [20:16:58] hmpf, which of those images? [20:17:05] hmm [20:17:07] I'm guessing Internet Explorer 6 is to blame [20:17:10] im guessing the parser has a bug or something [20:18:10] I'm guessing they have an exif comment that contains HTML. [20:18:23] they do [20:18:24] Yep. Exif's have [20:18:48] I don't think triggers the check. But " so where do we go from here anomie ? [20:22:17] matanya- Can you strip out the exif comment, or at least remove the link? [20:23:54] hmm, not sure. legoktm what do you think? [20:24:18] possibly [20:24:24] multichill would know better though [20:24:38] multichill just went to sleep [20:24:43] grrr [20:25:01] it might require using something to directly manipulate the exif data live pyexiv [20:26:31] i can't tell if you're talking about doing it locally for those images or server side [20:30:21] i was talking about doing it locally [20:30:27] can it be done server side? [20:30:44] hi. can someone give me an estimate on how many HTTP requests a single typical Wikipedia server has to handle each hour? [20:31:13] i guess... [20:31:32] photon: you should be able to find that in ganglia [20:31:48] like a cache server ? [20:31:50] photon: there's many kinds of servers that do HTTP [20:32:02] even many kinds of caches [20:32:29] photon: there really isn't such a thing as a 'typical' server [20:32:45] nobody really knows how it works, it just does [20:32:45] photon: since various machines and datacenters handle different load [20:32:56] photon: there are links to some stats at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stats [20:33:19] ok, thanks, I'll read that. [20:33:21] photon: this looks fun: http://www.nedworks.org/~mark/reqstats/reqstats-daily.png [20:33:49] or https://gdash.wikimedia.org/dashboards/reqsum/ [20:33:54] photon: but i'm not sure what exactly is presented on these graphs [20:34:50] jeremyb_: hey, that looks fun. i didn't know about it. [20:58:37] life is bugos [20:58:41] Krenair: have a sec to see some suspected bugs? [20:58:48] ok [20:59:42] unable to upload files to hebrew wikivoage [20:59:55] e.g. https://he.wikivoyage.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:Luxembourg_districts.jpg and https://he.wikivoyage.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:Missing_Wikicommons_Bar.jpg [21:00:21] TOC is on the lest by default: https://he.wikivoyage.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%A1%D7%A2:%D7%A7%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%96%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%9F [21:00:26] *left [21:00:45] and no new section tab: https://he.wikivoyage.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%A1%D7%A2:%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%93%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%98%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D [21:01:01] that is it Krenair. thanks [21:01:23] arg rtl [21:01:30] yup [21:01:45] need bz entries? [21:01:56] do you expect a new section tab on project pages? [21:02:08] thought that was on talk pages [21:02:17] yes, I do [21:03:09] oh, sorry, the new section thing is one locally [21:03:25] but the rest are valid [21:03:56] Sorry, I can't navigate rtl wikis properly [21:04:31] who can Krenair [21:05:05] I think you might want to add __NEWSECTIONLINK__ to that page [21:05:27] there may be a localised equivalent of it [21:06:01] yeah, that is what I did [21:06:10] __יצירת_הערה__ it seems [21:06:17] but the file issue is more critical [21:07:26] so the upload completes but the file doenst show and you get http 401 from https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikivoyage/he/a/a5/Luxembourg_districts.jpg [21:07:36] that's a bug, but probably wikimedia instead of mediawiki [21:07:53] some config issue? [21:15:44] aharoni: around? [21:15:59] shalom [21:16:43] וברכה [21:17:02] מי האדם המתאים לטפל ב https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46863? [21:17:36] AaronSchulz maybe? [21:18:22] thanks [22:14:17] hi, there is someone to ask a question on bugzilla? [22:14:35] Sure, what do you want to know? [22:15:50] Krenair: hi, some time ago I opened a bug, but I wrote a typo, to correct it, we need a new topic and a new bug, or I can re-open the old one with the fix? [22:16:18] Was the typo in a comment or the title? [22:16:46] in the code of the configuration to edit :( [22:17:00] Can you link me to the bug? [22:17:51] instead autopatrolled I wrote autoconfirmed. Then the community has changed my mind :/ [22:18:06] And yes, if you made a typo which has gone into the user interface via config changes, you should probably repopen the bug to get it fixed [22:18:14] sure: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45638 [22:18:47] the "duplicated" in reality it would not be duplicated [22:19:17] So the problem is that the rights set for 'autoconfirmed' should have been for 'autopatrolled'? [22:20:04] "Then the community has changed my mind" have they beat you or what? ;) [22:20:44] yes, but in a later discussion the community decided that autopatrolled autoconfirmed and should not have the right patrol, only admin and patroller :( [22:21:07] DaBPunkt: google :) [22:21:38] So this got set: 'autoconfirmed' => array( 'patrol' => true, 'upload' => false ), [22:21:47] But it should have been this: 'autopatrolled' => array( 'patrol' => true, 'upload' => false ), [22:21:51] Correct, Wim_b? [22:22:19] no, patrol only admin and patroller [22:23:53] patrol and upload false [22:24:00] Sorry you've lost me [22:24:17] Do you have the technical ability to reopen bugs? [22:25:12] I try? [22:25:49] ... yes, please try [22:32:58] greg-g: If I was to push a schema change for centralnotice; do you know of any reason why I couldn't just do that now? [22:32:59] Krenair: reopened? [22:33:08] greg-g: the calendar looks free [22:35:36] how can I find all the elements of the Classic skin so that I can add them to my .css ? [22:35:41] Krenair: sorry, another typo :( [22:36:24] 'autopatrolled' => array( 'patrol' => false, 'upload' => false ), but autopatrol = yes :) [22:37:23] I have to add it or is implied? [22:40:19] added :p [22:41:56] Krenair: are clumsy with bugzilla, sorry :'( [23:20:41] gn8 folks