[00:30:09] oh nice [00:30:11] "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" [00:31:47] yep [00:32:23] all logins should go through https now as well [00:36:53] so happy about this [00:36:57] I've been waiting for this for ages [00:38:07] Hrm. Is irc.wikimedia.org working? [00:38:13] My relay bot seems to be dead... [00:38:47] Susan, is your relay bot called 'snatch' by any chance? [00:38:54] Yes. [00:38:55] It's been quit-flooding for the past few hours. [00:39:05] Hrm. [00:40:34] alex@alex:~/.xchat2/xchatlogs$ grep "snatch has quit (Excess Flood)" WikiMedia-#mediawiki.wikipedia.log | grep "Mar" | wc -l [00:40:35] 7181 [00:41:33] It's flooding off? [00:41:37] On a read-only network? [00:41:41] Started at 17:33:32. [00:41:52] * snatch (snerk@anonymous.user) has joined #mediawiki.wikipedia [00:41:52] * snatch has quit (Excess Flood) [00:42:24] Constantly, making the channel impossible to monitor normally, for over 6 hours now [00:42:26] My bot is here. [00:42:40] Too many channels perhaps? [00:42:56] Susan: How many channels is your bot on? [00:43:23] On which network? [00:44:34] Looks like about 34. [00:44:38] But it's not making it into en.wikipedia. [00:52:05] Someone decided to make the bot join a lot of channels. [03:06:44] !log account-creation-assistance Running apt-get upgrade on all server [03:06:52] Agh, wrong channel [03:09:06] FastLizard4: well good thing you did it. now i noticed morebots needs a boot :) [03:09:20] jeremyb_: lol [03:09:28] hehe [03:09:54] If it had been working, though, wouldn't that have gone into the ops log, not the labs log? :P [03:11:19] FastLizard4: yeah [03:12:43] jeremyb_: Oops :P [08:21:06] Susan: I'm triaging 31 bugs with "edit conflict" in their summary because you're monster-lazy, be aware that you're a horrible person. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44360 [08:22:13] I'm regularly reminded. ;-) [08:42:47] Nemo_bis: Which was that bug you asked me about earlier? [08:42:58] /revison [08:42:59] It got lost in backscroll [08:45:09] Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42180 [08:47:23] I'll dig up logs post sleep [09:20:44] hello [09:30:34] My God. [09:30:40] How did you guys find the time to set up Gerrit? [09:30:52] Doing so on my server took literally four hours [09:31:05] :P [09:35:31] FastLizard4: it took months for Wikimedia, don't worry. [09:35:56] Susan: wanna do something useful? :) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30211#c7 [09:35:58] Nemo_bis: Okay, glad I'm not alone in the "why is this so hard" department. :P [09:36:48] Nemo_bis: No thanks. [09:40:22] Heh [09:40:55] FastLizard4: Not a fan of GitHub? [09:40:59] Or Bitbucket? Or ...? [09:41:50] Susan: I like Gerrit's reviewing system, and I can't create private repositories for free on GitHub :P [09:42:15] I'm told Bitbucket has free private repos. [09:42:21] And, God help you. [09:42:38] Susan: Well, it's set up and working now :P [09:42:52] I just have to look into reducing the memory footprint :P [09:44:03] But yes, God help me. :p [09:44:43] At least I'm not trying to set up JIRA, right? :P [15:40:17] Nemo_bis, thanks for the help on Search items in bugzilla! I must admit I still don't completely get the differentiation between the four components. :-/ [15:46:49] andre__: indeed, I got confused again :< [15:47:35] heh. But I am always :) [15:47:44] actually I was serious with what I wrote [15:47:50] I know [15:48:12] maybe search should be moved to its own product [15:48:46] Search product with components Search [core], MWSearch, Lucene-Search, lucene-search-2, WTF [15:52:11] andre__: Nemo_bis I'm finishing writing up what I learned about Search bugs. I wonder if we could pare down the four Search components to two. [15:52:46] chrismcmahon, I've triaged some tickets and will continue later [15:53:03] chrismcmahon, if there's place for a Bugzilla section in https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Search I'd appreciate that :) [15:53:50] andre__: let me put this on mw.o or somewhere to park it where you can look, be a few minutes... [15:54:23] I'd try to keep it in one place, and that seems to be the wikitech page [15:57:36] andre__: just as a point of discussion, nothing final: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Cmcmahon(WMF)/Search_bugs_draft [15:58:02] yay, thanks [16:00:52] chrismcmahon, that's a great start, thanks for sharing that! [16:02:28] andre__: I think this is a place where some community involvement would be useful, especially once we start tweaking Lucene settings, but we should get our own house in order before we do that. [16:18:35] sigh, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 still open [16:30:59] * addshore waves at the tech folk [16:31:45] Could someone take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Joe%27s_Null_Bot_2 and just make sure that purging such a requested page every 15 mins isnt going to break everything? :/ [16:43:08] 96 pages a day? I'd say it's fine [16:43:53] compared to the normal edit traffic it's going to be way below the radar [16:44:10] do make sure you check maxlag (as with every bot), that's about it [16:47:27] apergos: pywikipedia is doing this automatically, right? [16:47:35] Just to be sure... [16:47:41] ah I think pywikipedia checks that [16:48:08] as long as we're not talking about taking the innards and wrapping something else around them [16:48:21] this one here says it's in perl [16:48:29] Added a not making sure it checks maxlag :) [16:48:33] *note [16:48:36] sweet [16:49:07] Ah good [16:49:08] the general drill is: comply with local policy, respect maxlag, don't run in parallel and you should be good [16:49:45] Sometimes I use a really low throttle, so I get worried. [16:50:02] * addshore currently has maxlag set to 0 for his bot :P [16:50:12] 0. hmph [16:50:31] ok I gotta run [16:50:31] Ha. [16:50:38] talk to folks later [16:50:39] Which is respecting maxlag in a big way :P [16:50:43] see ya! and cheers! [16:51:11] Ciao. [17:19:12] http://p.defau.lt/?fvBmBulLRALEn5y55a_55g [17:23:15] chrismcmahon: interesting page, can I edit a line? :) [17:23:30] Nemo_bis: please do, it is very much a draft [17:26:07] done :) [17:30:05] OMG I forgot the most important thing [17:30:14] I must recover my watchlist from the old wikitech [17:33:33] apergos: hey, it's a march/spring cleanup thing, according to timestamps :p https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dumps/Other_information_sources&curid=4363&diff=62503&oldid=51661 [18:32:38] Reedy, did you try to debug that trwiki autopromotion exception? [18:32:49] No [18:33:13] It says 'APCOND_FR_EDITSUMMARYCOUNT' instead of '70821', which makes me think that it's not getting defined properly... [18:33:53] I suspect we hit InitialiseSettings before extension stuff has been loaded [18:34:06] Could just use [18:34:07] 70821 /* APCOND_FR_EDITSUMMARYCOUNT *?/ [18:34:14] Are there also lots of Notice: Use of undefined constant APCOND_FR_EDITSUMMARYCOUNT - assumed 'APCOND_FR_EDITSUMMARYCOUNT' ? [18:34:27] I didn't look [18:34:30] Different logs [18:34:34] ok [19:20:48] http://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Hauptseite :/ [19:21:06] moment [19:21:28] stupid thing [19:21:28] pt.wikivoyage.org down -> PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-config/CommonSettings.php line 2575.. [19:21:43] Already fixed [19:21:56] Yeah [19:24:35] Reedy: can you rollback aawiki? [19:24:44] Yeah [20:02:35] brion: jinx on the reply to the Vector sidebar thread [20:02:41] :D [20:02:42] had exactly the same issue myself [20:08:13] StevenW: csteipp reverted. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39380 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52344 [20:08:19] Oh [20:08:21] * jeremyb_ runs away [20:08:31] sad panda [20:08:35] hah [20:09:16] MediaWiki extension pages with RSS feeds show a red "Error: The deprecated variable $wgRSSAllowedFeeds has been detected.", e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RSS itself. [20:10:00] Probable fix is changing $wgRSSAllowedFeeds to $wgRSSUrlWhitelist in wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php [20:11:40] ori-l made a change for that [20:11:44] yeasterday [20:12:16] Reedy thx [21:41:24] !log updated payments cluster to 39a265489 [21:41:30] Logged the message, Master [21:43:09] Where would be the place to ask about wikimedia's projects that aren't wikis? Like the shop and whatnot. [21:43:51] Or should I just poke Jamesofur|away when he's around for that one? [21:47:20] Probably [21:47:22] probably Jamesofur|away , he's really the one running that whole thing [21:47:31] it's an outside vendor so not actually hosted by us [22:12:30] andre__: flag ready for use? :) [22:13:06] Isarra: ask what? Bugzilla, Wikimedia>General? Meta, relevant page? [22:13:54] Configuration, I guess. [22:14:16] Hrrrn. Meta is a good point. [22:14:53] Configuration of what? O_o [22:15:13] Favicons! [22:15:31] Unrelatedly does foundationwiki use a different svg renderer than commons or something? [22:15:58] no [22:16:47] Oh, I was using an inscape render, not the svg itself. Nevermind. >.> [22:16:50] For favicons, I'd say discuss on Meta and then ask action to ops directly with a bug and/or patch [22:17:51] I already changed all the wiki favicons I could find. But the shop at least is still using the broken one. [22:36:11] just a quick heads up: if you see the job queue spiking on several wikipedias (not other wikis), it may be due to the wikidata deployment. It should resolve itself soon. [22:56:59] gn8 folks