[00:12:16] Krinkle: FYI, here's the bug I was talking about this morning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT#Sorting_at_List_of_national_independence_days [03:42:38] Reedy: I wonder if the tel: URL protocol should be in MediaWiki core. [11:21:25] hello, anyone email admin (mchenry)? [11:23:08] ipv6 is dead (firewalled probably), ipv4 offers nice 451 temporary errors, someone should check the fw and logs there [11:26:28] grin: mark (CET) or LeslieCarr (PDT) is your person I think [11:28:25] Nemo_bis, thanks, I try. [11:32:28] hmm well do anyone screw about email or otrs now? seems this is not mchenry related, secondaries offer 451 errors as well, quite consistently. [11:33:16] grin: file a bug then [11:33:36] sure, but this means email doesn't gets in :-) [11:34:01] okay, hope people have email outside wmf ;) [11:34:52] grin: WMF uses Google email [11:35:07] huh [11:35:13] i better not heard that [11:35:17] :P [11:35:17] heh [11:35:32] ignorance IS bliss [11:36:38] I am not using google mail and I get incoming mail [11:37:24] apergos, then it's related to something else. that's good (because others get mail) and bad (because there's no incentive to fix it) [11:37:33] I'll fie a bug [11:38:29] plese add as much of the email content and headers as you feel comfortable with (without revealing private info) [11:38:39] not relevant [11:38:51] but I will, trust me. :-) [11:46:57] apergos, I hope you're happy with the amount of info https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45545 contains :-) [11:47:05] I see it already [11:52:51] DNS lookup of "mikieger.info" deferred [11:52:53] this is why [11:53:17] mikieger.info. 86400 IN NS ns1.suspended-for.spam-and-abuse.com. [11:53:20] great [11:53:21] thanks [11:53:25] yw [11:53:32] ipv6 one still valid [11:54:08] someone else will have to look at that issue [11:54:17] ok. thanks. [13:14:51] Nemo_bis: PDT doesn't exist atm and mark is not CET. (both are PST. at least right now) [13:18:56] in any case I was able to look at the immediate issue [13:18:58] ipv6 can wait [13:19:29] apergos: right [13:24:16] grin: ping [13:25:42] grin: commented on bug 45544 [13:26:56] out of curiousity - got an url? [13:27:16] grin: for what? [13:27:33] I'm not grin, but for the bug :) [13:27:51] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/bugnumberhere :) [13:31:15] I'm here [13:31:29] jeremyb_, pong [13:31:38] grin: see the bug :) [13:31:44] gry: did you find it? [13:32:02] yes, thanks [13:32:15] okay I do. stand by, hold your breath. ;-) [13:33:01] jeremyb_, it pings to me as well, I'll check smtp [13:33:26] jeremyb_, negative. firewalled. [13:34:06] grin: did you see netcat? [13:34:28] i'm not coming from any special IP [13:34:39] Nemo_bis: [13:34:40] $ zdump -v America/Los_Angeles | egrep ' Mar .* 2013 ' [13:34:40] America/Los_Angeles Sun Mar 10 09:59:59 2013 UTC = Sun Mar 10 01:59:59 2013 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800 [13:34:43] America/Los_Angeles Sun Mar 10 10:00:00 2013 UTC = Sun Mar 10 03:00:00 2013 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200 [13:34:46] neither am I as far as I know [13:35:02] grin: can you try from a second locaation? [13:35:04] location* [13:35:05] do you have a login at WMF to trace me back? [13:35:14] hmm. I'll see [13:35:18] grin: only an IPv4 login :P [13:35:22] (seriously) [13:35:29] no problem as long as you can trace it BACK [13:35:33] want me to ping6 the thing? [13:35:39] it pings gry [13:35:41] gry: no, netcat [13:35:48] tcp/25 doesn't ack [13:36:18] hmmm [13:36:22] I have a bad feeling [13:36:23] its not uncommon for isps to block outgoing 25 [13:36:27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density seems to generate scribunto timeout errors, I suppose because the page is so long. Is there a good way to fix it? [13:36:44] gry, yes, but in one case I'm the ISP :) [13:36:47] trazillion: on viewing or editing or what? [13:36:51] Viewing [13:37:09] but I'll check around whether some idiot screwed up firewalling around us [13:37:11] The tables near the bottom all have "Script error" in them [13:37:13] trazillion: you mean "Script error"? [13:37:15] Yes [13:37:55] grin: so you have mixed results with netcat? [13:38:09] trazillion: how do you know it's a timeout though? [13:38:12] jeremyb_, stand by, I'll try a diff location [13:39:06] jeremyb_: in the source [13:39:06] mw.loader.using("ext.scribunto", function() {mw.scribunto.setErrors(["\x3cp\x3eThe time allocated for running scripts has expired.\x3c/p\x3e", [13:39:10] a bunch of times [13:39:21] aha [13:39:23] cool [13:39:39] Lua time usage: 10.031s [13:39:56] Yeah, clicking on it gives a popup with that message [13:40:26] ohhhh, they're clickable! [13:44:23] grrrrrrrrr, petan [13:44:34] petan: ping! [13:44:34] what [13:44:34] hi [13:44:51] you just sent me (at least) 4 messages from badoo [13:44:55] 3 of those are on public lists [13:44:57] oh shit [13:45:07] damn that thing [13:45:23] where is that? that freaking shit scanned my gmail account [13:45:32] and possibly spammed some people [13:45:38] many people [13:45:41] omg [13:45:44] all of wikitech-l in fact [13:46:02] OMG [13:46:07] (oh, whoops. one of those lists is actually a private list) [13:46:08] I didn't want to do that [13:46:18] i know you didn't :) [13:46:26] OMG [13:46:28] now I see that [13:47:49] grin: :) [13:48:55] I just got those, heh [13:49:11] scanned = hacked? [13:49:26] idk -- I am using google's OAuth there [13:49:31] meh [13:49:35] it probably requested some kind of permission in past [13:49:36] petan: you missed labs-l [13:50:08] petan: you mean you weren't even interacting with their service today? [13:50:12] + million of people I have in my contacts.... [13:50:22] ah, right, it emails them one by one so mailman didn't reject the private/public mixup [13:51:24] well, I was, there was something like "there is a friend of you who want to add you" and confirm button, when I clicked confirm the message appeared: "you connected to all selected people" [13:51:41] and it spammed all my contacts for some reason [13:51:51] that really suck [13:52:07] not just mailing list's but many people in addition [13:52:29] nice [13:52:30] it even spammed my toolserver email [13:52:51] that's rather obvious [13:53:01] now I am pissed off [13:53:13] I wonder how you could miss such badoo mails before, you've been lucky I guess [13:53:33] I didn't click that button but I was always wondering what is it going to do... [13:53:47] that thing is dangerou [13:53:48] s [13:54:36] maybe it should be large and red :P [13:54:45] jeremyb_ it's blue [13:54:47] http://www.mywot.com/en/forum/7714-badoo-at-it-again [13:54:57] grin: are you an active DD? (just saw your mask) [13:55:06] DD? [13:55:08] what is that [13:55:28] debian developer [13:55:33] (kidding of course) [13:55:40] heh [13:55:58] that activity is a lot of pain honestly [13:55:58] jeremyb_ does that link in these emails contain some personal information about me? [13:56:26] petan: never clicked before... [13:56:26] I don't really care about picture, I have this one on my wikipedia user page [13:56:29] i guess i could try [13:56:40] but there might be other data [13:56:46] gry: kidding? [13:57:50] ah, heh, that's actually true. was hoping not [13:58:15] jeremyb_ is there a way to get all my e-mail contacts? [13:58:40] gry: ? :) [13:58:43] like I see them in suggestions when filling in Cc or that [13:58:57] but that suck [13:58:59] badoo's sloooooow [13:59:32] fucking badoo can access my contacts and I can't? [13:59:57] > Find your friends. [13:59:58] > Which of your friends are already here? [14:00:12] > Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data. [14:01:30] damn this website is horrible [14:01:42] (ux/ui/slow) [14:03:48] petan: it's very easy, you can also export to CSV [14:03:59] yes I found [14:04:19] of course the last gmail UI changes made everything harder, as is duty of every redesign [14:04:28] jeremyb_, kind of inavctive atm but you may ask anything free of charge ;) [14:06:27] grin: i was just wondering if we may have met. [14:06:43] grin: i've not been to .hu though so maybe not :) [14:07:36] jeremyb_, probably not, I'm a harmit living in a cave below the highest mountain and eating worms and drinking cave pool water. [14:07:45] hermit* [14:08:16] grin: your cave has fiber? [14:08:20] yes, hermitaskerisk. [14:08:39] do you get the worms flown in then? [14:08:45] well yes. lots of fibers. mainly from the bag I wear as clothes. [14:09:12] apergos, no, I'm firewalled, granite. [14:09:24] but as you see IPv6 connection is okay ;) [14:09:30] :-P [14:09:44] EVEN CAVEMEN HAVE IPV6! [14:09:55] oh sorry, it's cave echo. [14:11:23] petan: you has /msg [14:16:01] petan: good thing that you used bcc ^^ [14:16:23] did you see any emails? [14:16:26] I hope not [14:16:44] mine :) [15:25:00] petan: hahahaha, you even sent a badoo mail to RT! [15:25:23] that thing stole all contacts I ever wrote email to [15:25:36] this should be violating some law [15:25:42] damn suckers [15:25:50] please investigate and let me know :) :) [15:27:00] I don't know if there is much to investigate: they used OAuth access of gmail to retrieve my inbox, then after pressing some fake button they initiated a delivery of thousand spam messages that were telling "Petr Bena left you a message" which of course is non sense [15:27:23] my recommendation: never use badoo [15:28:00] * jeremyb_ already deleted the account that he made a couple hours ago to see what this "message" was [15:28:13] whatever it was it wasn't made by me [15:28:17] gotten badoo mails before but never bothered to see what the message was untili now [15:28:27] until* [15:28:37] you gotten them probably from other victims of this [15:29:01] right, i'm sure i have [15:29:08] mostly less techy than you even [15:29:13] I know there was image of some guy I know and label "this person want to connect with you" and button like confirm [15:29:47] I didn't even know it spammed so many people until I received pings [15:31:00] that badoo's mail server should be blocked... [15:31:09] it was even pretending that it was me who sent the email [15:31:15] by putting me as reply to [15:31:44] oh nope it didn't [15:31:52] it was from noreply@badoo [15:31:55] mhm [15:32:22] (maybe we should stop spamming this channel though) [15:32:30] that e-mail deserves to be blacklisted [16:39:44] Hi everyone [16:40:03] hi [16:40:08] I'm an admin on es.wiki and I'd like to import the VisualEditor [16:40:16] Could anybody help me? [16:42:58] Do I have to create on es.wiki all the MediaWiki pages of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AllMessages&dir=prev&offset=Visualeditor-savedialog-label-create&prefix=Visualeditor&filter=all&lang=en ? [16:44:23] no [16:44:28] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllMessages&prefix=Visualeditor&filter=modified&lang=en&limit=50&dir=prev&offset=Visualeditor-savedialog-label-create just the modified ones [16:44:42] also, you cant import the visualeditor [16:44:47] its a mediawiki extension [16:44:57] you would need to file a bugzilla request to get it enabled [16:45:07] and even then, i dont think its ready for deployment yet [16:46:06] Isn't it completely developed? [16:46:13] nope [16:46:14] no its not [16:46:24] its a very limited enwiki rollout [16:46:29] it's in testing [16:46:43] Ok, then i'll wait until it is finished [16:47:05] Thanks for your help [16:47:24] tbh I think this extension could be globally deployed to all wikipedia's once it's finished... [16:47:43] it's useful to all of them [16:49:11] Yeah, I think it can be an important headway in editing [16:49:42] Do you know when it'll be finished (approximately)? [16:52:54] petan: I think thats the plan [16:54:50] It would be logical [19:09:12] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pope_Benedict_XVI_2.jpg [19:09:12] [be2ffd83] 2013-02-28 19:08:51: Fatal exception of type MWException [19:09:34] Base-w: works for me? [19:09:42] just loading the page right? [19:09:47] reloaded - works [19:10:02] you're welcome :P [19:10:07] :) [19:11:13] 2013-02-28 19:08:51 mw1093 commonswiki: [be2ffd83] /wiki/File:Pope_Benedict_XVI_2.jpg Exception from line 352 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf10/includes/cache/MessageCache.php: Could not acquire 'commonswiki:messages:en:status' lock. [19:12:55] huh [19:13:09] (it worked for me) [19:13:21] mm I use el though, not en [19:14:14] These come and go [19:14:34] One of numerous stupid temp bugs [19:16:27] the funnest kind [20:48:41] Ryan_Lane: notpeter - where should I be looking to check on Status of database replication in Labs? [20:48:54] sumanah: with binasher or notpeter [20:49:36] sumanah, did you see Coren email confirming that replicated dbs would have user dbs? [20:50:53] Platonides: I haven't read it yet [21:18:54] Platonides: where was that email? [21:37:14] gerrit 503ing? [21:37:31] back. just overloaded, i guess. [21:48:09] /msg MemoServ READ NEW [21:49:25] hehe [21:58:13] /say /msg MemoServ READ NEW [21:58:19] ^^ QuiteUnusual [21:58:56] marktraceur yes, figured it out in the end... sorry for the channel clutter! [21:59:12] No problem :) [22:39:40] isn't there a page describing how to parse the irc feed? I saw one, but can't find it [22:40:01] ^ rc feeds, on irc.wikimedia.org [22:40:59] Possibly [22:43:28] so... does anyone happen to know where the deployment calendar is now located on labsconsole? [22:44:21] Ryan_Lane: ^ ? [22:44:40] Same page name presumably? [22:44:57] use wikitech-old.wikimedia.org for now [22:45:01] aah [22:45:01] the import isn't finished [22:45:04] kk [22:45:09] thanks [22:45:11] yw [22:45:13] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=import&user=&page=&year=&month=-1 [22:46:36] ori-l: spagewmf: for your e3 deployment window today -- are y'all planning to scap? [22:47:25] mwalker I belive we deployed a bunch of extensions with no i81n changes, thus no scap. I think we're done unless something blows up [22:47:49] would you mind if I jumped your window then and ran one? [22:50:36] Alchimista: it would be strange: the format is defined as "what bots are able to eat currently" [22:50:51] spagewmf: ^ [22:51:27] mwalker Checking... (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/How_to_deploy_code is gone!!! I feel so vulnerable) [22:51:34] Nemo_bis: lool, removinf the colors is easy, the hardest way is to get the regex for all the possible actions [22:51:39] *removing [22:51:44] spagewmf: Check wikitech-old.wm.o [22:51:53] thx [22:52:56] mwalker: i think it's cool, go for it [22:55:16] Nemo_bis: update special pages seems to be broken again.. [22:55:20] Stopping at nlwiki Mostinterwikis [23:09:47] Reedy: always? [23:10:04] Not sure [23:10:05] also, why didn't nl.wiki remove interwikis yet :) [23:10:14] We don't keep/rotate the logs [23:10:20] or does mostinterwikis poll wikidata [23:10:22] right [23:11:53] Nemo_bis: nl wiki isnt deployed yet [23:12:03] * Jasper_Deng notifies Nemo_bis of his reply to the discussion on Wikidata [23:12:12] there's a nifty table at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikidata_migration [23:12:19] legoktm: hm? isn't phase I everywhere [23:12:22] no [23:12:26] march 6 i think [23:12:45] Reedy: I see zh.wiki has updated mostinterwikis (today)... so maybe it continued? [23:12:52] Maybe :/ [23:13:15] Also, removing interwikis locally shouldnt affect the special page [23:13:24] Full deployment is next week, yeah [23:16:53] legoktm: because the sitelinks (or whatever) table stays the same? [23:16:59] yeah [23:17:06] Jasper_Deng: I replied, but my own reply sounds redundant to me :) [23:17:12] and the table is called langlinks :P [23:17:15] Nemo_bis: "sounds redundant to me?" [23:17:33] Jasper_Deng: just repeating same things [23:17:34] I've managed to confuse enough people by using the word langlinks instead of interwiki this week. [23:17:55] legoktm: call them interlanguagewikilinks [23:18:01] :PPP [23:18:05] then one can drop the preferred syllables [23:18:14] Nemo_bis: but that's not hat collecting [23:20:07] * Jasper_Deng thinks legoktm hasn't read the initial proposal comment that addressed the "But GS are trusted and nice!" argument [23:20:57] tbh i didnt read what you wrote [23:21:53] Wikidata's problem with spambots is /very/ minor compared to other wikis [23:22:40] Jasper_Deng: it's not like there's a measurable definition of "hat collecting"... [23:22:50] it's a qualitative thing, true [23:22:57] this is a very typical difference of opinions [23:23:09] but I generally define hat collecting as when a user asks for rights that /they don't need nor use/ [23:23:19] just to have rights