[00:00:00] in all seriousness though -- I'm being lame and doing some off reservation work on CentralNotice today and was wondering how y'all were getting along with it? [00:03:01] I don't think we've had a chance to even use it yet. O_o [00:03:35] that works too! means your all just getting up to other types of trouble [00:03:43] Totally. [00:04:08] speaking of -- I understand CO got dumped with snow! enjoying it!? [00:04:08] Actually I've hardly even been paying attention. Go to all that trouble to move the thing and then I just wander off... [00:04:25] It makes driving scary. And everyone knows about this. How does everyone know? [00:04:37] *muahahhaaha* [00:04:48] theres this wonderful thing called... the news! [00:05:05] also -- my grandparents called and told me that they were having fun [00:05:12] I wouldn't know about such things. [00:05:15] News... or fun. o__o [00:05:34] Seriously, I need to do everything I didn't do last week - today. How does this happen? [00:05:39] gasp! shenanigans! why no fun? :( [00:05:48] Too many things to do. [00:05:51] you're a senior! [00:05:53] you get to have ALL the fun [00:06:16] I mean, I suppose ripping out a hunk of mediawiki core and replacing it with zombies could be fun, but I don't think people would appreciate. [00:06:30] I've been a senior for two years now. Both have sucked. [00:07:04] not sure how code and zombies are really all that replaceable -- now, if you somehow managed to stuff the red queen in there I would be all giggles [00:07:22] clearly you're just doing it wrong! [00:07:24] somehow [00:07:26] >.> [00:08:22] but yes -- too much to do; I spend a week in Seattle and I find that I'm terribly behind with EVERYTHING [00:08:32] but that's OK because Seattle was awesome [00:10:36] The red queen? How would you do that? [00:11:05] And zombies work fine in code. They're all brains and repetitive and can even form an entire computer if you get enough of them... [00:11:28] At least you have a good reason for behindness. [00:11:41] the red queen from resident evil -- the one that goes crazy and creates the zombies! [00:11:46] Getting sick and then just plain not getting better sucks. [00:11:51] Ah. [00:11:56] Not familiar with that one. [00:11:59] hurm... turing complete zombies -- interesting concept [00:14:05] you really aren't missing much -- terrible movie series -- but it is a cult classic [00:14:12] those two seem to go hand in hand [00:14:23] Heh. [00:14:24] just the thing to use when not feeling well and wanting to procrastinate more! [00:14:35] I can't procrastinate more. [00:15:17] I need to annotate these user tests and do my homework and explain to one of my teams that I forgot which team it was because for some reason I have two teams for the same class and thus this entire thing is what even agh. [00:15:40] Also at some point I need to find jorm and get him to remind me what the hell I was doing before everything exploded. [00:15:58] blasphemy! one can always procrastinate more -- one just probably shouldn't [00:16:10] what's on your plate that's looming terrifyingly? [00:16:44] Isarra: Reminder: you were being awesome before everything exploded. [00:17:19] Blargh. [00:17:40] Nothing is looming terrifying. [00:17:40] That I know of. [00:18:00] jorm: What did being awesome entail? [00:18:09] The heat death of the universe is looming. [00:18:27] annotating the user tests and finishing your blog post. also helping maryana out with watchlist work. [00:18:43] Urgh, I've gotten too sick for mountain dew again. [00:19:05] Was the watchlist stuff why I wanted to gut the changeslist class and replace it with zombies? [00:19:41] yes. [00:21:22] Okay. [00:21:26] This... is possibly doable. [00:22:47] Dammit, how the hell did I just lose two weeks? [00:23:12] does the lack of mountain dew turn you into a zombie? whereby you would be in fact replacing the code with, at least the output of, a zombie? [00:23:41] Alas, nothing so interesting. [00:24:14] timeloss; possibly caused by the asteroid that barely missed us! turns out it had a black hole in it and it caused massive localized time distortion that no one noticed! [00:24:23] Well, okay, the cold or whatever the hell this thing is turned me into a zombie... and the medicine added to it... [00:24:43] That part of it at least is gone. I'm coherent. I just can't bloody breathe. [00:24:51] So then I take cough medicine. [00:24:56] Which turns me into a zombie. [00:25:02] Except it isn't working anymore. [00:25:23] Wouldn't there be more... apparent effects of a black hole? [00:25:45] The time loss spreading ahead of everything else that one time only happened because of the added wormhole. [00:27:03] so! the cold medicine turned the friendly cold microbes into raging cold zombies! (who are possibly hijacking and and transforming the cough medicine into meth for the party of the year) [00:28:42] And the bronchitis? [00:28:55] they had to store the decorations somewhere? [00:29:15] They should find somewhere else. Like a closet. Or a vestigial organ. [00:32:15] gn8 folks [00:32:53] Isarra: have you had your appendix out? that's the only organ I can think of that's more closet like than the lungs? and you have two lungs! plenty of spare capacity! [00:33:31] Nope. [00:33:58] And I think I need all the lungs I can get current. I am having considerable trouble breathing. [00:35:26] ly [00:35:28] Ghack. [00:35:51] Lack of air. That could explain the stupid. Totally just a lack of air. I am normally an intelligent capable individual. [00:36:04] clearly this is going to be the biggest zombie cold virus party EVAR -- and if it's that bad; I would suggest you go check out the local urgent care [00:36:48] There's too much snow. [00:36:52] Also I have no money. [00:36:55] And there's snow. [00:36:57] And it's cold. [00:37:07] And agh I'm making up excuses instead of working. [00:38:37] in that case -- I should stop distracting you via silly conversation! [00:41:19] (but please don't die of suffocation needlessly! that would make many people sad) [00:42:47] If I die I'll be sure to send you a horrible nightmare squid first. [00:44:10] yumm; fresh sushi :) [00:45:13] So what is this channel actually for? [00:46:00] * Topic is 'Technical help for Wikimedia...' [00:46:04] :p [00:46:06] officially -- technical help related to wikimedia products as I understand it [00:46:11] And what differentiates that from -dev? [00:46:23] we talk about deployments in this channel? [00:46:42] What are deployments? [00:46:50] those instances where we break the site [00:46:56] ie: push new code [00:47:00] Ah, yes. [00:47:07] So many ways to break the sites... [00:47:13] muhahahah! [00:47:48] thinking on that -- I'm sorta surprised no one has attempted to catalogue them [00:49:25] Susan made a list of some. [00:50:18] ah, good [06:08:46] is there something amiss with our indexes and search? [06:09:04] I get zero results on enWS and mw for obvious searches [06:09:05] there were problems with the Lucene servers [06:11:04] sDrewth: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=all&search=walters&fulltext=Search [06:12:45] we shall wait... [06:17:18] techs are obviously off watching the Oscars [06:27:54] sDrewth: some have been sick, some are recovering from jetlag, some are otherwise afk [06:28:09] hopefully there's one that is at a computer soonish [06:28:49] the oscars finished an hour and a half ago! [06:29:05] i didn't even know they were today until a few hours ago [06:29:17] you didn't miss much [06:39:53] closedmouth: they are watching stealth drone webcams of the after parties [06:40:12] we know who gliterartzy these guys are [06:40:18] *hwo [06:40:21] *how [06:51:35] sDrewth: try again? [06:56:50] Rage. [06:56:57] Search has been having intermittent issues for weeks. [06:57:23] jeremyb_ seems to think that an intermittent issue that occasionally returns a correct result is fixed. ;-) [07:06:14] Susan: this wasn't intermittent [07:06:21] this was broken consistently [07:06:32] *that* is now (temporarily) fixed [08:23:29] hi all, small documentation error in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Searchindex_table [08:23:59] the indexes in searchindex table are not as described in the documentation [08:28:32] #mediawiki [08:28:44] ok sorry [08:35:04] is this a good channel to talk about tools i'm making that interact with wikimedia data/dumps? [11:43:02] Krenair: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49685/1/wmf-config/flaggedrevs.php -> I'm a little impatient we upgrade to PHP 5.4 so we can use shorter array syntax to make the configuration more easy to read. [14:12:01] Just got an MWException when searching. Retrying worked. [14:14:17] AVRS: you should provide the hash for your error [14:14:31] 24 18:40:17 < helderwiki> can anyone get more info for Bug 45335, which was a "Fatal exception of type MWException", with code [935e66d4] [14:14:38] ^^^ as an example [14:16:33] ok, next time [14:34:21] I'm seeing a lot of Exception from line 352 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf9/includes/cache/MessageCache.php: Could not acquire 'ruwiki:messages:ru:status' lock. [14:56:21] andre__: heh, I was about to add platformeng to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43516 but then thought maybe I was using it too much :) [14:56:24] sounds familiarish... [14:56:52] maybe that's the kind of thing Reedy has fixed? (memcached above) [14:56:56] Nemo_bis, my thought was it might be better to do than to add robla who has a lot of stuff on his plate anyway :) [14:57:02] not sure though either [14:58:08] (not the bug but the individual occurence so that it stops happening for a while?) [15:07:44] jeremyb_: fixed? he just added trace to the bug I just linked? [15:08:26] andre__: the weird thing is that we have a tracking bug for undeployed stuff, but once a bug is deployed we lose track of it and forget it :) [15:09:21] Nemo_bis, huh? do you have the number handy? (maybe I don't get you) [15:13:36] andre__: the "wmf deployment (trackign)" [15:14:05] Nemo_bis, that is for stuff that should *block* deployments. [15:14:21] Nemo_bis, hence "stop deploying if not fixed" [15:14:32] Nemo_bis, what's the use for tracking stuff that was deployed already? [15:14:52] basically every bug filed more than two weeks ago is deployed. Hence nothing to differentiate, IMHO [15:38:51] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50752/ (whenever you or someone can merge & deploy it, no hurry) [17:55:37] Nemo_bis: what does trace mean? [17:57:47] jeremyb_: it was a stacktrace without the stack, just grepped :p [17:58:09] i don't follow [17:58:31] who is "he"? [17:58:43] 25 15:07:43 < Nemo_bis> jeremyb_: fixed? he just added trace to the bug I just linked? [17:59:19] you mean MaxSem?? [17:59:23] * jeremyb_ is fairly confused [18:00:36] no, Reedy [18:01:37] still don't really follow [18:08:27] No [19:27:19] could smb run interwiki.py [19:27:19] -family:wikinews -lang:uk -async -auto -start:Category:! [19:27:40] i have not global bot flag so it is too many capchas [20:07:57] how can i switch off post edit for me? [20:08:22] every time I see it i hate it more and more [20:08:35] but there no checkbox at settings [20:52:05] aww why all so old http://stats.wikimedia.org/WikiCountsJobProgress.html [21:15:43] hoo|away: there are a few dozens MediaWiki messages still linking soxred tools... in case you wish to do some crosswiki edits https://toolserver.org/~nemobis/tmp/iwm/tools-mw [21:20:36] Nemo_bis: That fil doesn't say which wiki... [21:20:42] * file [21:52:16] Reedy, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45383 probably just needs the namespaceDupes script? [22:02:35] Krenair: Yup, loads fixed.. [22:10:03] Thanks for the notification about that Krenair. [23:23:55] AaronSchulz: has tim reviewed the redis jobq patch yet? [23:24:36] "Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem" (wp.fr) [23:24:54] connection problem in europe amssq33.esams.wikimedia.org (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to () Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD [23:25:20] 502 Bad Gateway [23:25:58] no we don't [23:26:02] well, we did. [23:26:15] yes [23:26:17] MaxSem: in your home dir on fenari [23:26:24] notpeter, danke [23:44:06] binasher: yes, though migration code is still needed [23:45:28] you mean… "truncate table job;" != migration code?? [23:49:42] AaronSchulz: what about my dumb hacky solution to the problem? [23:49:55] (just leave a few jobrunners with the old config for a day or two) [23:50:26] paravoid: well iterator code is in gerrit and beyond that it's just a simple wrapper script [23:50:36] so it's not a huge amount of work [23:50:38] ok :) [23:50:54] I don't pretend to know what's going on there, so I don't have an opinion :) [23:54:57] possibly a user talk notice/warning template changed [23:56:40] meh, that's just meta