[00:30:02] gn8 folks [02:50:56] Is the bug 44537 and the later bug 44550 fixed or not? [02:51:39] We still have problems on the site and it would be nice to have a solution or an estimate for when it will be fixed. [02:57:53] !ops [02:58:10] Er Jeblad_WMDE ? [02:58:12] Jeblad_WMDE: lol that pokes the irc ops, not the actual ops people :D [02:58:30] hehe [02:58:51] okey, how do I kick the ass of the wm-ops-folks [02:59:07] Jeblad_WMDE: when you discover that, do let me know, might come in useful at some point :D [02:59:36] I start to get a bit pissed over a highly visible and very annoying bug at nowiki [02:59:53] After what I heard the fix is simple but nobody care [03:00:18] And a lot of users in nowiki starting to get very pissed [03:00:52] Sorry for my language, put white eraser paint on your screen [03:01:36] Jeblad_WMDE: I have been following the bug :) If you're looking specifically for the operations people, there's also #wikimedia-operations tho I don't know if you'll have more luck there or here [03:02:04] I guess the bug won't be fixed before next week [03:23:44] Status: NEW [03:23:51] * Reedy suspect that means the bug isn't fixed [03:26:54] Jeblad_WMDE: 44550 is now fixed [03:27:11] In the middle of the night? [03:27:30] Do you want me to undo it? [03:27:31] :p [03:27:34] * Jeblad_WMDE wonder if he should moderate his earlier comments [03:28:22] Though, complaining on a Friday evening/Saturday morning, at a time when the Europeans should be in bed, and the Americans probably aren't still working ;) [03:28:40] Leaving possibly only Tim to be around, but then again, it is a saturday afternoon for him.. [03:29:11] A purge fied a message on allmessages [03:29:19] yay [03:29:22] Perhaps things starts working again [03:29:29] And lolwut, your homepage is a redirect? [03:29:31] (Redirected from Hovedside) [03:29:36] Or is it from broken messages? [03:29:55] That was manually fixed earlier .. err..yesterday [03:31:05] Cite still have problems, but that could be cached messages [03:31:23] PURGE ALL TEH CACHES [03:34:43] Cite works again after I purged a few messages [03:34:53] :) [03:34:57] I guess the rest will time out [03:36:02] And the sidebar is wrong again XD [03:41:47] Jeblad_WMDE: I can try drop database nowiki; [03:41:53] I hear that can help greatly [03:42:02] O_O [03:43:08] Might get a bit of replag [03:43:19] There's always a cost! [03:44:07] As long as references work, sidebar looks sane and the insane people can use the old toolbar everyoune is happy [03:47:40] Jeblad_WMDE: When discussing a bug, it helps to provide a link. [03:48:29] [03:50] Jeblad_WMDE Is the bug 44537 and the later bug 44550 fixed or not? [03:48:53] It's currently 03:48 [03:48:57] I fixed it before you reported it [03:48:58] :D [03:49:33] You are cheating, you time bandit [03:49:45] http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:Innstillinger#mw-prefsection-gadgets [03:50:19] I ask some bot owner to run a touch.py-job tomorrow [03:51:27] Jeblad_WMDE: Not sure if you were quoting yourself to me, but those aren't links. :-) [03:52:14] bug numbers are easy enough to follow, even on a clumsy (g)ui [03:52:31] * Reedy pets Susan [03:53:38] Sorry, thired, seek and want to go to bed and dream about beaches with lots of naked.. something.. [03:54:33] Yeah, I need to shower then go to bed [03:54:37] as it's all but 4am here.. [03:56:06] Thanks Reedy, your and angel in disguise.. Like a red daemon.. [03:57:13] Heh. [13:29:17] Hi ... I download a file on commons two times and get a different one. It looks like the i a bad cache in dns round robin or like this. I post details here (bottom): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Work_requests#Convert_all_interlaced_JPGs Can please anybody check this? [13:32:40] anybody is interested in this? [13:38:38] uwe: I am [13:38:47] hi nemo [13:38:58] thanks for check this [13:39:21] uwe: are you User:slick? [13:39:25] yes [13:39:39] I had just noted that the bot had stopped before lunch [13:39:48] that bug should have been fixed... [13:41:18] I like to work on the list <5MB, but with this bug it make not sence. [13:41:24] uwe: purging works [13:42:11] the problem is that the cache has not been purged at the time of reupload because purging was broken back then [13:42:17] new thumbs surely use the new version [13:42:42] this mean what? all files are purging now or the bot should purge a file before download it to be sure it get the fresh one? [13:42:57] new uploads will be ok [13:43:17] for the old ones, yes you could force purging [13:43:34] I think you dont understand me. [13:43:37] but it's not necessary for the purpose of this bot task IMHO [13:44:45] sure .. if a download a file and get the old one, this can progressive or baseline. I dont know what is the current one, unless I purge every file before downloading. [13:45:16] but your bot is the only one who converted images... [13:45:43] There will not be many false positives. Probably none at all. [13:46:02] sure ... but it only has upload a new version. and the cache have to cache the new version soon, but it didnt [13:46:11] sorry for my bad english [13:46:16] don't worry [13:47:39] So, yes, purging has failed for some weeks, but all files uploaded before and after that are ok. [13:47:52] My list was made before the bug so it's ok. [13:48:07] The main converter is your bot so you have the list. [13:48:25] You now only want to add a template... So what's the problem? [13:49:53] ok. I understand. But as I wrote the page, I now do not convert the files <5 MB. I just add the template now. But some files <5 MB (not much) were converted already some days ago. If I now recheck this files, I found some progressive that already converted. [13:50:34] Don't you have a list of those files? They weren't many [13:51:14] Yes, I have a list. But however this is a problem I guess [13:52:26] you can easily purge those files [13:53:17] Ok,.. I will keep the bot running and check the first files for false-positives. I think that are not much. [13:53:28] Should be this if you want to do it en masse: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Purge [13:53:41] But it look like my bot isnt fine to mark up fine images. Is not fine for me. [13:54:00] fine images? [13:54:20] when the bot add the remplate to already converted files, is not fine. [13:54:24] t [13:54:43] sure [13:56:10] ok, thanks for help [13:56:33] you are usually here? [14:00:00] yes [14:04:00] ah, the "not many" files are a few hundreds? [14:18:50] I guess up tp 200 [14:22:40] and some false-positive because a little scripting bug... grrrrrrrr [14:28:02] ok, now all fixed and i guess all works fine now [14:38:18] Nemo_bis, do you think the comment text is fine? [14:38:34] "Bot: This file was identified as progressive JPEG. Please read Help:JPEG#Progressive_JPEGs." [15:17:08] Susan: do you know why https://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt would be as it is? [15:17:13] or mutante / Susan [15:17:28] ahem, Thehelpfulone [15:21:47] Nemo_bis: it says so there, right? [15:22:19] lists.wikimedia.org ends up really high in google, so posts you make to any of the WM mailinglists will end up high in google [15:25:12] sure but that may have been valid in 2005 perhaps, now the lists are mirrored everywhere in any case [15:29:10] sure, but those are less prominent [15:29:24] the goal is not to make mails unfindable, but rather to not have them on top in google [15:31:05] looks like wild speculation [15:38:49] Nemo_bis: *shrug* You can also take the historical perspective: what is stated in robots.txt was true back then, and no-one has cared enough to reconsider it. [15:39:04] basically, I think the argument is still true [15:39:21] whether you think it's a good argument or not, considering the downsides, is an entirely different question [16:11:43] valhallasw: it's also possible that someone re-assessed and was too lazy to update the comment ;) [16:11:57] that's why I'm asking about more recent reasoning [17:49:59] http://en.planet.wikimedia.org/ : Last updated: February 02, 2013 12:02 AM All times are UTC. [17:50:07] What's 12:02 AM UTC???? [17:50:23] 00:02 [17:50:43] 12+ AM makes no sense to me :) [17:51:02] thanks hoo [17:51:38] ;9 [17:51:41] ;) [17:52:32] 12 hour is confusing in AM/PM format [18:28:16] * jeremyb chuckles at Nemo_bis above [18:32:49] hi there [21:18:52] Could anyone please fetch an exception [783f4401] 2013-02-02 21:17:35: Fatal exception of type MWException [21:19:01] Reedy: ^ [21:19:39] (on wikidata.org) [21:20:41] they all come out at the same place ;) [21:20:50] Ah ok :D [21:20:54] http://p.defau.lt/?dS2GliYRZLbirRpME8TWDA [21:22:08] Well... that leaves me rather clueless, thanks ;) [21:22:18] ahh [21:22:30] I wish we had all the exceptions in a database :-D [21:22:41] with a list of the top offenders :-] [21:23:25] They're all mostly MWException ;) [21:26:27] Surprise :D [22:49:15] @add #wikimedia-otrs