[01:12:02] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ambassadors/Courses/Theater_History_from_1642_%28Amy_E_Hughes%29/Timeline [01:12:02] PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf8/includes/Wiki.php line 387: [01:12:02] Call to undefined method CoursePage::loadPageData() [01:18:01] hm [01:19:52] its an even deeper bug [01:19:52] will report to bugzilla [01:21:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44490 [01:24:06] duh: you should also report to ragesoss :) [01:24:13] well now that you've pinged him :P [01:28:09] well you can actually load the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Ambassadors/Courses/Theater_History_from_1642_(Amy_E_Hughes)/Timeline&direction=next&oldid=535606485 [01:28:12] if you are so inclined [01:28:17] still obviously something broken [01:28:42] ah something in the course extention thing [01:28:47] so not important :) [01:30:18] Prodego: right, or just use ?redirect=no [01:43:00] * jeremyb spies a ^demon on wikitech [01:43:44] (wikitechwiki not list) [01:43:50] * ^demon hides [01:43:53] <^demon> ;-) [01:44:12] ^demon: did my edit send you an enotif? [01:45:02] <^demon> No, but I dunno if I've got enotifs on wikitech. [01:45:28] <^demon> Nope, I don't. [01:45:44] seemed too coincidental that you edited right after me (with no other edits to the page in the last 6 weeks [01:45:48] duh, thanks for the bug report. that's a doozy. [01:45:50] ) [01:46:10] duh is such a confusing nick [01:46:19] i took a bit to parse ragesoss :) [01:46:43] ragesoss: np, it confused me for a while as well :P [01:46:52] jeremyb: duh, thats the point ;) [05:35:12] Bugzilla seems to have died.. [05:36:28] Yes. [05:36:35] I noted this a few minutes ago. Nobody seems to care. [05:37:08] Susan, I noticed. [05:37:20] Where will I put my necessary but time-consuming ideas! ;) [05:37:56] You're supposed to the other joke in times like these. [05:38:13] "Bugzilla is down. I tried to file a bug... OH WAIT." [05:39:56] Well.. there is rollout today and people starts to go online [05:40:16] I guess it won't be nobody care very long [05:40:20] ;) [05:40:46] It requires a root to fix it. [05:40:51] There are few roots. [05:41:11] Whoever has access to kaulen, I guess. [05:41:13] I think that's mostly roots. [05:41:26] Susan, how do you know what's wrong? [05:41:40] I don't. [05:41:46] I just know it's gone unresponsive. [05:41:51] And that it's on kaulen. [05:41:55] Then how do you know it requires root? [05:41:57] So it has to be investigated. [05:42:00] Maybe someone tripped on the CAT-5. [05:42:22] Its bussy injecting bugs in core [05:42:31] No one will ever suspect. [05:42:43] Tripped on a cat-5 cable at this hour? In an industrial data center? [05:42:51] Perhaps it's down due to solar flares. [05:42:52] Susan, I'm mostly kidding. [05:42:55] I know. [05:42:58] But my point is you don't know it requires root. [05:43:08] Should we take bets? [05:43:36] Gentleman's only. [05:43:39] Heh. [05:43:41] :) [05:43:51] I bet it requires a restart, but not root. [05:44:35] superm401: Restart the server, then. [05:45:55] I don't know the full hostname, let alone what wrath that would bring down upon me. :) [05:45:59] If I had rights. [05:46:40] You know who might have rights? [05:46:48] No idea [05:46:55] Oh. [05:47:03] I was going to say a root. [05:47:20] More people can restart than root. [05:47:24] I missed a "use" above. [05:47:26] And root's useless if it's not up. [05:51:17] I think this is the first time I've seen the new dashboard be right about something. [05:51:27] Status dash [05:53:39] it might not be fixable remotely [05:53:43] we will see what a power cycle does [05:55:54] !log rebooted kaulen, was not responding on network or serial console [05:55:55] Logged the message, Master [05:56:51] well, it booted [05:57:02] TimStarling, glad you fixed it. [05:57:08] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ is back. [05:57:15] Thanks, Tim. [07:28:48] ori-l: heh. you snipped out basically all of the email about why people shouldn't use that option [07:29:33] well, I guess there wasn't a ton of meat in it [07:29:42] Well, I thought it was probably silly to snip that out, but I was worried it would be wrong of me to disclose a vulnerability (even if fixed) without some explicit OK [07:29:54] heh [07:30:00] I was pretty sure but not 100% sure engineer was all staff [07:30:09] * engineering-l [07:30:09] * Ryan_Lane nods [07:31:08] I think the title and the body you sent will hopefully be enoug [07:32:14] Incidentally, _should_ everyone w/access to fenari be subscribed to the ops list? I know of at least two people that are in the former category but not the latter. [07:33:08] not really [07:33:16] it was originally meant for people with root [07:33:27] or really, people on the ops team [07:35:22] k [10:38:09] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Article_feedback#Again_on_resources [14:58:58] hey notpeter [14:59:52] notpeter: I didn't see any comments from you on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Ops,_2011-2013 - is it accurate? or maybe you just had other things you had to do on your flight [15:14:11] sumanah: ah, yes. turns out that the idea of doing anything useful on a redeye was wishful thinking on my part. will have comments on there by the end of the day. sorry for being slow... [15:14:32] It's all right [15:14:52] *I* am the slow one - should have had this out the door at least a month ago [15:31:52] Shearonink - ask away, no idea who if anyone is paying attention [15:32:13] Does anyone understand what a "400 Error" is? [15:32:21] I am getting that when I try to asscess WP [15:32:33] I am able to access other sites [15:32:48] Bad Request Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand. Size of a request header field exceeds server limit. Cookie /n [15:32:50] and you tried logging out and then back in, yes? [15:33:04] I logged-out and then logged back in and that did not help [15:33:51] have you tried using a different browser? [15:34:01] not yet [16:27:24] Reedy: I suppose it's done, you'll post the logs I guess? https://noc.wikimedia.org/~reedy/enwikispecialpages.log [16:27:40] Nemo_bis: I think that is done [16:27:42] It's live [16:27:56] Reedy: I mean on the bug [16:28:22] I could, or you can [16:28:22] real 4210m17.172s [16:28:37] Nearly 3 days to run for enwiki [16:28:58] wow, Colin Bradshaw and other bird people are really missed [16:29:14] Nikerabbit: you should translate https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Vincent :) [16:31:24] Nemo_bis: why? [16:31:50] Nikerabbit: most wanted page on en.wiki [16:35:30] I thought it was going to be a bio page [18:08:05] ^demon, hey, did you get my e-mail re: commit-access-reqs? [18:08:27] kibble: that's also sumanah and a few other people iirc [18:08:43] <^demon> kibble: Yes. Any legit requests (for non-pywikipedia) to that should be directed to labs/gerrit. [18:08:44] I e-mailed them both, but I don't think sumana's onilne now. [18:08:50] <^demon> Once they're all gone, close the list. [18:09:26] * Nemo_bis waves at kibble [18:09:37] <^demon> kibble: I don't see you around nearly often enough :( [18:09:42] 30 15:19:00 -!- sumanah [~sumanah@mediawiki/sumanah] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [18:09:43] +1 [18:09:45] 30 18:09:23 -!- There is no such nick sumanah [18:09:48] ^demon: +2 [18:10:46] ^demon, yeah, I'm not as active anymore. =[ I'm mostly active in OTRS stuff. [18:11:27] About the queue though, there's three tickets in there -- one that has to do with pywikipedia and two that have to do with MediaWiki. [18:11:43] I'll point the MediaWiki people to the page on MediaWiki.org, but what do you want to do with the pywikipedia one? [18:12:10] <^demon> Make pywikipedia move to git :p [18:12:17] <^demon> Na, I'll handle it. [18:12:38] haha, okay, it's this ticket: https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID=6789249 [19:05:06] Right [19:35:45] Reedy: I welcome any corrections you can give on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Ops,_2011-2013 [19:36:41] now sumanah's here but no kibble ;P [19:37:23] jeremyb: I infer from what you've said that there's someone named kibble whom you would like me to speak with? [19:37:43] hahaha. i guess he really has been inactive [19:38:12] sumanah: kibble is cbrown1023. he should have sent you some mail recently. i think ^demon responded here earlier [19:38:27] Casey Brown. OK. Yes, he sent me mail that I haven't replied to yet. [19:38:32] re commit access reqs OTRS queue [19:38:34] yes. [19:48:22] sumanah: can i just edit it? [19:48:31] (your link above) [19:48:48] jeremyb: I would mildly prefer talkpage comments but if you feel you would rather just edit, go ahead [19:48:53] jeremyb: Don't do it. It's a wiki. [19:48:55] I may revert & make compromises [19:49:23] sure, well it will take about 10 secs to make the edit, you can comment after i tell you it's finished :) [19:50:07] sure :-) [19:50:30] Hi Reedy. The person who requested https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/46547/ said they'll be starting at 9:30am, can you try to get this deployed before then please? [19:51:43] Reedy, uh actually wait a moment. [19:51:55] Those addresses... 192.168.* are all private aren't they? [19:52:11] Only used to seeing 192.168.1.*... [19:52:40] lmfao [19:52:44] Yes they are [19:53:07] Chances are they're only using one public IP then [19:53:16] sumanah: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Ops,_2011-2013&diff=5166956&oldid=5166756 [19:53:33] got it [19:54:20] Krenair: what TZ is 9:30am? [19:54:31] GMT [19:54:54] According to the bug "for the duration for the workshop (between 09.30am and 14.00pm UTC.)" [19:54:58] 30 19:54:31 < Krenair> GMT [19:55:10] that's UTC ^^ [19:55:16] There's a difference? [19:55:33] so, 9:30 has come and gone [19:55:54] maybe i should click the gerrit link :) [19:56:16] Yes, I am referring to 9:30AM tomorrow... [19:58:18] * jeremyb commented on the bug [20:04:50] Hello. Somebody just disabled subpages in "Project:" namespace in Russian Wikipedia and it's a HUGE disaster, could someone fix it please? [20:05:04] I doubt it's "just" [20:05:05] brion: http://shirt.woot.com/ [20:05:12] that shirt is for you. [20:06:18] AlexSm: Let see [20:06:52] RobH: nice [20:07:02] http://ru.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces%7Cnamespacealiases [20:07:03] look for Yeah [20:07:41] I've just found it [20:07:52] Stupid config inconsistencies [20:10:00] AlexSm: Fixed. Sorry about it [20:10:37] Reedy: Thank you very much. I'm going to go and make those null edits now. [22:01:19] jeremyb: i haven't seen you around in a while :) [22:01:24] or maybe i have been not around too much [22:02:02] LeslieCarr: probably me not being around so much [22:02:45] LeslieCarr: partly because i was actually away (not home) for a little over a week. and partly $dayjob took over part of my life [22:03:59] damn you $dayjob!! [22:04:52] IRC is sometimes overwhelming too :( [22:05:45] there's a lot of backscroll [22:17:32] robla: thank you for updating http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Multicast_HTCP_purging [22:19:41] no prob! [22:23:40] robla: I read that quickly. I'm not sure how much you're investing in that page, but I think a diagram might be helpful [22:27:26] well before it was really really old - it's at least better (yay better) [22:41:09] There are a lot of really old system messages used now on no.wiki [22:41:22] http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar [22:41:42] They don't match up at all [22:42:09] DELETE THEM ALL [22:42:25] O_O [22:42:43] Hi [22:42:45] That has to be dealt with locally... [22:43:35] It seems to be a version from https://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&oldid=4117776 !! [22:43:49] Krinkle is going to delete them all, it seems [22:44:04] I think caching is screwed up at no.wp for the moment [22:44:05] or is that one not up to date? [22:44:28] a question connected to one i asked yesterday. Base is sulbut without commons. I have other sul there BaseSat. But i cant be logged in as BaseSat in co [22:44:41] mmons and as Base elsewhere [22:44:56] The local messages are correct, but something screws them up in the cache [22:45:01] Use 2 different browsers? [22:45:09] don't login as a bot? [22:45:19] s/browsers/cookiejars/ :) [22:45:27] if delete SUL for BaseSat - will i be able to use both in on? [22:45:47] I doubt [22:46:24] i use now two brousers but it is not confortable and it is a big problem for me [22:46:31] Base: You would have to delete both SUL accounts (or better have them deleted as you can't on your onw) [22:46:57] Best solution is to have a single name [22:47:04] Base at commons is not me [22:47:10] it is other man [22:47:24] and local rules disallow usurp [22:47:47] all other Base is my SUL [22:48:05] Ugh why does Freenode keep killing my connection [22:48:25] Krenair_: (quit: Excess Flood) [22:48:32] to many auto joins or so, I guess [22:49:10] I have to write to stewards to delete sul for BaseSat? I want to test [22:49:41] Base: You would have to delete both global accounts though, probably [22:49:56] Hm [22:50:04] Reedy, logged out and back in in another browser and personalized links in toolbox are gone [22:50:33] I want to try with one deleting first [22:51:01] if it will not work 100% i will think more what to do [22:51:05] I have no idea, but this seems like a bug for bugzilla to me unless you have a quickfix [22:52:06] so deleting sul is to stewards? Which page? [22:52:22] Base: I'm pretty sure that's not going to work properly (though I haven't tested this edge case myself yet) [22:52:50] ah [22:53:17] Base: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/SUL_requests [22:53:30] To rename Base at 704 projects is not a good idea now too [22:54:03] may be it is possible to configure cookies somehow? [22:59:24] Base: Not per default, no... google gave me this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/cookie-monster/ maybe it can do waht you need [22:59:35] nom nom nom [23:03:27] ok i whoud try smth tomorrow, thnx for answers [23:06:59] Base: You're welcome ;) [23:13:34] It seems like the messages are being cached a bit on random from the history