[03:39:41] rc irc is not displaying all events recently, even on small wikis with nearly no traffic [03:59:04] Hi, there are some issues with the squids cache servers or something they depend on. [03:59:19] I left details at http://p.defau.lt/?OEklefirbiARPc3YG3RzvQ [03:59:42] If there are questions, let me know. [04:00:23] The provided Sample URLs, return error messages for me (but not people at other locations) [04:01:28] (X-Squid-Error ERR_INVALID_URL 0) [04:02:05] The URLs were generated by the API, btw. so they should be valid. [04:14:47] hey. can anyone here estimat ethe size of the enwiki full text index? or provide some description of its characteristics [04:30:51] I can't tell you the size of the search index or other indices but there are database dumps which contain the full wikitext. [04:38:27] rillke: mainly looking for an estimation of the size, also whether you store the fulltext in the index etc. expressly so i can avoid building the index by hand to find out :) [04:38:43] wondering what size of SD card would be needed for random access to compessed enwiki + fulltext index [04:39:12] i know bz2 compressed is 9gb.. so maybe 16gb to compress articles in blocks / individually, then guessing something under 16gb for the index [04:43:44] rillke: oops.. "can't" vs "can" :) ok, thanks anyway [04:46:06] Interesting to know what people do, though :) [04:47:46] it occurred to me recently that 5 car batteries and a cheap chinese tablet would be enough for 6 hours reading for almost a year without recharge (assuming zero leakage) [04:48:21] now if you were on a deserted island cut off from the world forever, what sd cards would be nice to have in your pocket :) [04:48:36] s/reading/reading per day/ [04:50:18] bah, car batteries contain a lot of lead. [04:51:02] poor island [04:51:08] 'night [08:18:30] When I edit my wikipage, I get index.php [08:18:35] is it mimetype issue [08:18:39] how to resolve it [08:47:24] rohitkav: #mediawiki is probably the better place to ask. anyway - what exactly do you mean be you "get" index.php [08:47:38] nearly all requests to mediawiki go through index.php... [08:47:51] ok [08:47:58] Actually I got one company's wiki page [08:48:17] and issue is I can't embed the image using external file in the server [08:48:26] whom to contact regarding this issue DanielK_WMDE [08:48:42] the mediawiki-l mailing list [08:49:03] k [08:49:15] you can also ask in #mediawiki [08:49:27] sometimes, that is quicker. sometimes, you don't get an answer there. [08:49:48] ok [08:49:55] You got idea what might be the issue [08:52:51] DanielK_WMDE: howdy :-D [08:53:08] DanielK_WMDE: happy new year and that sort of things. I feel sorry that Wikibase is not yet in Jenkins :-( [08:53:28] DanielK_WMDE: does not excuse me though but at least you know it worries me (a bit) [08:54:35] hashar: so wel'll have to make you worry more ;) [08:54:46] rohitkav: i don't even understand the problem. [08:55:06] I got this wiki page [08:55:07] http://janastu.org/technoscience/index.php/Annotation [08:55:17] now I want to embed the image which I gave as link [08:55:47] image which shows the one in the link [08:56:09] rohitkav: yea, i now saw what you wrote in #mediawiki and replied there [08:56:54] ok [08:56:58] :) [08:57:19] Hope you can understand this issue :) [08:57:36] how to do that using $wgAllowExternalImages [11:23:19] can someone please modify RT744-RIPE to be mnt-by TORCHBOX-MNT? (mark?) [13:32:03] andre__: is testme also for things which can't be debugged by users? [13:32:49] Nemo_bis, I have no idea. I use it for stuff that definitely needs testing again. [13:32:58] what does the keyword descrition say? [13:36:10] andre__: things to check in alpha version of MediaWiki [13:37:03] lol. whatever "alpha" means in this context. [16:37:10] andre__: I've set up https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_maintenance_notice/Data_center_migration ; could you please take a look before I start working on translations? [16:39:17] guillom: was a bit curious, so looked as well, the full announcement link is pointing to just a software upgrade maint [16:40:02] akoopal: yes, the link is transcluded from another page so it can be updated in all translations without having to change them individually. The link will be updated when we have a blog post ready. Thank you for checking :) [16:41:08] ok, so was just a placeholder, thanks :-) [16:44:49] guillom: Could the "bug tracker" link point to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&component=General/Unknown (so there's one product/component in Bugzilla to keep an eye on to avoid people filing it anywhere or getting too lost and not reporting at all), and move the current link to an additional "(How to)" after, or would that get too distractive? [16:46:57] andre__: I don't mind either way; you're the bugmeister, so I'll change it to do what you want :) [16:46:58] guillom: I'm probably after squaring the circle by both trying to make it easy to report (no choosing a Bugzilla product/component) and get good reports (the "how to" link) [16:47:51] guillom, can I go ahead and edit it? [16:48:04] andre__: how about "in our [[How to report a bug|bug tracker]] ([bugzilla link|direct link]) ? [16:48:19] guillom, yay, that's perfect! [16:48:41] ok [16:49:03] I'm going to change that page because I'm not going to translate it as I was planning to. I'll leave a redirect [17:08:53] I filed my first bug a few days ago, but I don't know whether I did it correctly. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43863 [17:09:20] andre__: ^^ [17:09:37] Unrelatedly, andre__, I think at one point we should translate that How to page [17:10:26] guillom, true, good point. On the other hand, we expect reports to be in English :-/ [17:11:05] andre__: do we? Ok, if that's a requirement, then there's not much point in translating the how to ; I'll try to think of an alternative [17:11:19] guillom, I assumed. Maybe I'm wrong :) [17:11:24] andre__: also, see Savh|Away's comment above [17:11:27] hi Savh|Away: the report looks totally correct, just waits for somebody to pick it up and do the changes. If nothing has happened in a week please feel free to ask again on that report [17:11:46] Ok, thank you very much. :) [17:11:57] andre__: I dunno either, honestly :) [17:13:49] guillom: If several developers look at / read / work on the same issue I see problems. Of course people can try to report in different languages, but I guess we prefer if they used something like Google Translate to also provide an English comment too [17:15:01] andre__: Alright; then perhaps the solution is to translate the how to page (because much of it applies whatever the language, e.g. how to reproduce), and add a section about using machine translation in the translated pages, so that all reports are in English ? [17:15:34] guillom, that sounds perfect [17:15:35] * andre__ is thankful that guillom can summarize andre's thoughts way better [17:15:43] hehe [17:16:39] good, I'll get that started this week, so that we can have something by the data center switchover; andre__, do you consider the how to report a bug page stable, accurate, and generally how you want it to be? [17:17:18] Because if we start translating it, we won't want to change it too much afterwards (we can change it, but not too often and/or not too much) [17:17:29] guillom: I'd call it "acceptable" currently. I should probably have a re-read. [17:17:36] andre__: ok [17:18:42] guillom, will do so later today (got to leave in 10min) [17:19:00] sure, it's not super-urgent :) Thanks! [17:58:45] Could someone from ops check if varnishhtcpd is working properly on upload varnish servers? lots of reports of images not purging properly [18:27:21] Can I hotlink wikimedia [18:28:33] Hello_: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:HOTLINK#Hotlinking [18:44:05] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Exterieur_GEDEELTE_VAN_GEVEL_-_%27s-Gravenhage_-_20262266_-_RCE.jpg/120px-Exterieur_GEDEELTE_VAN_GEVEL_-_%27s-Gravenhage_-_20262266_-_RCE.jpg [18:44:25] Anyone an idea why this is a default squid page? (besides the fact that I'm getting this in the first place) [18:47:21] the via headers on that request also look wrong [18:50:40] mutante: ^^ Probably a squid without the right configuration in the upload pool [18:52:34] multichill: hmm.. i see an image there [19:07:40] somebody should really +2 or -2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42574/ already. ~ [19:08:47] MatmaRex: Done [19:09:50] RoanKattouw: thanks! :D [19:10:02] RoanKattouw: can you do that again now? gerrit demanded rebasing. [19:11:09] Merged now [19:11:18] Sorry for not paying attention to the error message [19:11:49] thanks :) [20:00:56] !log nikerabbit rebuilt message index on all Translate-enabled wikis (half a hour ago) [20:01:05] Logged the message, Master [20:17:04] mutante: I'm in Europe, you're probably in the US? [20:17:49] * multichill pokes hashar [20:18:27] multichill: I am in Europe too :-D [20:18:31] multichill: He's out to lunch [20:18:31] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Exterieur_GEDEELTE_VAN_GEVEL_-_%27s-Gravenhage_-_20262266_-_RCE.jpg/120px-Exterieur_GEDEELTE_VAN_GEVEL_-_%27s-Gravenhage_-_20262266_-_RCE.jpg [20:18:40] hashar: Do you see an image ^^ [20:18:42] multichill: WFM [20:18:46] (San Francisco) [20:18:58] multichill: fails for me, Poland (Europe) [20:19:14] Invalid URL [20:19:14] Some aspect of the requested URL is incorrect. [20:19:16] invalid req [20:19:37] append a query parameter to that url and that works [20:19:44] like ?cache=IHateThem [20:19:55] I guess a fault page is cached on the upload caches [20:20:02] * aude sees it [20:20:03] argh [20:20:07] but via proxy [20:20:13] i know that this is [20:20:16] More images have it,see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Rijksmonumenten [20:20:34] A squid without config paravoid? [20:20:42] very close [20:20:42] multichill see it from Cincinnati [20:21:40] Ehm default config? ;-) [20:21:43] I don't see it for any of the images in that category? [20:21:53] paravoid !log stopping squid3 on sq48 [20:22:05] sq48 was recently reprovisioned [20:22:11] the default image nowadays is precise [20:22:15] (BTW, !log works here too) [20:22:19] precise doesn't have squid 2.x but squid 3.x [20:22:41] squid3 Provides: squid, so puppet's squid ensure => present install that instead [20:22:41] RoanKattouw: Europe farm.... [20:22:59] configuration between the two is different, and we have no squid3 configs [20:23:27] this results in a misconfigured squid, which however boots up, replies with the default page and pybal pools it [20:23:34] * aude gets Name:upload-lb.eqiad.wikimedia.org [20:23:46] multichill: Someone said they saw the problem in Cincinatti though [20:23:49] +n [20:23:50] and that get a portion of the traffic [20:24:01] hard to believe that [20:24:16] US traffic goes to eqiad [20:24:20] no squids there [20:24:27] varnish [20:24:31] EU traffic goes to tampa [20:24:42] sq48 is part of tampa [20:29:50] guillom, I think https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug is fine now [20:30:00] to translate [20:30:54] andre__: great, thanks! I'll make it translatable tomorrow and reach out to translators [20:31:17] thanks! [21:32:35] !log setting knsq17 to enabled: False in pybal esams/uploads-squids as it is broken per RT-4321 [21:32:38] multichill: <-- [21:32:44] Logged the message, Master [21:32:51] Thank you mutante [21:32:58] paravoid: that is the one with the broken disk but it was still enabled in upload-squids [21:35:55] that wasn't multichill's issue [21:35:59] that was sq48 [21:36:35] as for knsq17, I stopped squid so it shouldn't be pooled [21:37:07] and if you need to depool it manually (a good idea if we're decomissiong it), pybal is not enough [21:37:16] it needs to get removed from the squid configs as well [21:37:46] since 1) the squids peer with each other 2) frontend squids point and monitor the backend squids [21:37:59] do I make any sense? :) [21:38:04] (in a meeting...) [21:44:49] paravoid: ooh,ok, see, i would have thought just stopping it but not disabling in pybal is a nono [21:45:24] sq48 has been handled though? [21:46:51] no, not yet [21:48:28] no squid running on it [21:48:52] I stopped it [21:48:57] it needs a reinstall with lucid [21:49:03] so not completely handled yet [21:49:07] aha, gotcha. thx [21:51:51] I need to push a autoinstall gerrit change to switch all squids to lucid [21:51:55] as to not have this happen again [21:52:46] created RT to reinstall it [21:53:44] andre__: are you still around? (not sure what your hours are) [21:53:55] guillom, still here [21:54:20] I think we're in the same hangout :) [21:54:25] andre__: ok; I've done a lot of formatting and wikitext cleanup on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug ; could you take a quick look? [21:54:32] ah, I didn't know you were there as well :) [21:54:40] paravoid: sorbs sucks:) they seem to have issues with their own ticket system or something :p.. they keep claiming they removed us ,but then i still see it .. [21:54:45] guillom, just a silent listener to get an idea [21:56:44] guillom: oh lovely, thanks so much for the cleanup! I just changed/improved some text a while ago (and merged two pages on this topic) but was never very happy with the wikitext. Very appreciated! [21:57:05] andre__: I'm happy to help with wikitext expertise :) [21:57:54] I think we could get rid of most of the things on this page with a bugzilla wizard, but I think this is good for now [21:58:05] I'm going to start the translation process [21:58:05] yeah :-/ [21:58:14] great