[02:21:50] <DaBPunkt>	 gn8 folks
[11:08:35] <Nemo_bis>	 Can someone with ganglia access check how's jobrunners' activity? Job queue is increasing.
[11:08:49] <Nemo_bis>	 MaxSem maybe?
[11:59:13] <MaxSem>	 Nemo_bis, what do you want to know?
[11:59:44] <Nemo_bis>	 MaxSem: if CPU/network is lower or higher than a week ago, things like that
[12:00:04] <MaxSem>	 why should it be different?
[12:00:19] <MaxSem>	 doesn't seem like the queue is multiplying itself
[12:00:26] <MaxSem>	 it's all users:)
[12:02:09] <Nemo_bis>	 it doesn't? /me can't see it
[12:03:13] <MaxSem>	 well, one thing you can be sure is that if the nymber goes up, it's due to ppl editing templates
[12:03:40] <MaxSem>	 the job runners aren't overloaded, network traffic is not unreasonable
[12:39:45] <BarkingFish>	 Hi guys :)  Happy new year to the tech end of WP!  Wonder if you can help me - are you aware of any issues with rendering SVG on commons at the moment?  I uploaded an SVG file last night, which is rendering incorrectly.  It looks ok using the upload.wikimedia.org address, but commons renders it with 2 bloody great black boxes on it.
[12:40:08] <BarkingFish>	 This is the image on commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Biomechinjury1.svg
[12:40:40] <BarkingFish>	 And this is how it gets rendered on the upload.wikimedia.org address: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Biomechinjury1.svg
[12:44:10] <BarkingFish>	 I've checked the file over this end too, there are no objects or anything unaccounted for where those 2 black boxes show up :)
[12:54:31] <BarkingFish>	 I'll come back later, i've got to go shopping :P  See you tonight!
[12:54:32] <apergos>	 hmm seems that all the thumbs have that issue, probably an issure with rsvg 
[12:54:41] <apergos>	 wonder if he saw that
[12:54:41] <apergos>	 ah well
[16:20:03] <BarkingFish>	 evening all :)  Anyone around now who can help me out please?
[16:29:08] <Nemo_bis>	 BarkingFish: is it urgent? if you're not sure it's a bug, you could leave a note on TheDJ's user talk
[16:29:40] <BarkingFish>	 Nemo_bis, it is kinda urgent
[16:30:46] <BarkingFish>	 It's a rendering issue on an SVG, shows up great on upload.wikimedia.org, and on my PC, commons is rendering it wrong and the user who commissioned it off me needs it tonight
[16:31:02] <BarkingFish>	 this is how it looks on commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Biomechinjury1.svg
[16:31:13] <BarkingFish>	 and this is how upload.wikimedia.org renders it: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Biomechinjury1.svg
[16:31:16] <Nemo_bis>	 Then you have to upload it as PNG.
[16:32:07] <BarkingFish>	 no - i need it as an SVG, i want to find out why commons is rendering it wrong rather than skirt the issue by doing it in another format :)
[16:32:58] <Nemo_bis>	 Saving the world is rarely an urgent thing.
[16:33:17] <Nemo_bis>	 I've added the tracking bug, it will tracked on bugzilla if needed.
[16:33:44] <Nemo_bis>	 This ensures it will be fixed in the next couple decades, but if you want it working now you need PNG version.
[16:34:16] <Nemo_bis>	 Otherwise, wait for TheDJ to tell you what's the problem and how to make the SVG work with rsvg.
[16:35:32] <BarkingFish>	 Well I've downloaded it from WP, it loads cleanly here in inkscape, and there are no objects where those 2 black boxes are - I've even examined the xml down to the letter, it doesn't indicate anything should be there :D
[16:35:51] <BarkingFish>	 I'm at a loss on this one, hopefully theDJ will be able to sort this :)
[16:36:30] <Nemo_bis>	 It's just a bug...
[16:36:52] <Nemo_bis>	 If you're really anxious you could browse bugzilla reports and see if there's one with a workaround suitable for you.
[16:38:11] <BarkingFish>	 hm. that's a thought.  I think it's been picked up before, some time ago. I seem to recall a rendering bug or something to do with imagemagick...
[16:38:59] <Nemo_bis>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?j_top=OR&f1=blocked&list_id=170810&o1=equals&resolution=---&resolution=LATER&o2=equals&query_format=advanced&f2=component&v1=8901&v2=SVG%20rendering
[16:39:07] <Nemo_bis>	 there's dozens ;)
[16:42:32] <Nemo_bis>	 andre__: do all new users have bz_canusewhines on bugzilla? I don't know who to share a saved search with
[16:45:31] <Thehelpfulone>	 Nemo_bis, yes
[16:45:38] <Nemo_bis>	 Thehelpfulone: thanks
[16:45:42] <Thehelpfulone>	 np
[16:47:34] <Nemo_bis>	 Most saved searches are shared with editbugs users though. Poor new users...
[16:48:12] <Nemo_bis>	 Krenair is the only generous all-sharer so far. :p
[16:52:45] <BarkingFish>	 found the problem, Nemo_bis - and it means me doing some reworking.  My SVG uses flowroot, and apparently, rsvg doesn't support it - the bug's been out since mid december '12
[16:53:09] <BarkingFish>	 so i am going to have to do as you first suggested, rework into PNG.
[16:53:15] <BarkingFish>	 no choice
[16:55:18] <Nemo_bis>	 sorry
[16:56:05] <Nemo_bis>	 BarkingFish: use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Technically_replaced
[16:57:14] <BarkingFish>	 ok, thank you :)  It shouldn't take long to redo this.
[17:16:33] <BarkingFish>	 Nemo_bis, all done :D Now replaced with http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Biomechanical_Mechanisms_of_Injury.png
[17:17:03] <BarkingFish>	 and I've tagged the SVG with the template you posted, so all should be well now.  The svg won't get deleted will it?
[17:20:46] <Nemo_bis>	 BarkingFish: no, it will serve as testcase for bugs :)
[17:21:19] <Nemo_bis>	 And all uses of the PNG version will be switched to SVG as the bug is fixed.
[17:22:11] <BarkingFish>	 brilliant :)  Thanks for this, sorry if I seemed a bit snotty when I started up - i hate having compromise cause something is wrong :D
[17:27:07] <Thehelpfulone>	 Nemo_bis, if you think it's worth it I could share with all users
[17:27:52] <Nemo_bis>	 Thehelpfulone: what? all searches? you can edit them?
[17:28:17] <Nemo_bis>	 If yes I can't think of any reason not to change the editbugs one to bz_canusewhines
[17:29:01] <Thehelpfulone>	 I thought I could directly, but it turns out I can't - I *could* sudo as those users though to change it -- andre__, ^ thoughts on changing the shared permissions for saved searches with "bz_canusewhines" instead of "editbugs" so all users can see them?
[17:30:00] <Nemo_bis>	 well maybe that's too much work
[17:30:29] <Thehelpfulone>	 it looks like it's only a few power users though
[17:32:33] <Thehelpfulone>	 I'm happy to do it - I'd just like a confirmation from andre__ as it would changing other users settings (although I don't think they'd care too much in this context) - he's in a meeting right now AFAIK so I'll await his reply (please poke me!)
[17:33:01] <andre__>	 so the proposal is to make editbugs group members automatically part of group bz_canusewhines , right?
[17:33:46] <Thehelpfulone>	 andre__, not quite, bz_canusewhines is regexed to include all users on bugzilla
[17:33:57] <Thehelpfulone>	 new users don't have the "editbugs" group right because of some vandalism we had a while back
[17:34:22] <andre__>	 Hmm, bz_canusewhines already has set the regex .*
[17:34:30] <Thehelpfulone>	 which means that if a new user creates an account but isn't given the "editbugs" permission then all the searches on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=saved-searches that are shared to editbugs won't be viewable by them
[17:34:44] <andre__>	 ah. Now I finally understand the problem, thanks. :P
[17:34:51] <Thehelpfulone>	 np ;-)
[17:35:42] <andre__>	 I must admit that I have no idea right now how to do that.
[17:36:00] * andre__  also slightly sidetracked by a meeting that takes place

[17:36:09] <Thehelpfulone>	 I know how to do it, I'd just like an okay from you to do it :)
[17:36:19] <andre__>	 Thehelpfulone, Do it! :P
[17:36:25] <Thehelpfulone>	 heh
[17:36:30] <andre__>	 (I assume that we won't open security holes or performance issues by that.)
[17:38:01] <Thehelpfulone>	 nope I don't think so "The message you enter here will be sent to the impersonated user by email. You may leave this empty if you wish, but they will still know that you are impersonating them." - I think I'll create a bug for this first
[18:02:43] <aude>	 ^demon: Reedy i will be around tomorrow if we want to try wmf7 on wikidata again
[18:02:54] <^demon>	 Okie dokie.
[18:02:56] * aude  going home now 

[18:03:11] <aude>	 pretty much anytime works tomorrow for me
[18:03:39] <aude>	 although i'm trying to reproduce the bug tonight and tomororw morning
[18:21:52] <Thehelpfulone>	 Nemo_bis, okay done most, there's a few more left I'll sort those out later, I cced you to the bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43610
[18:22:44] <Nemo_bis>	 Thehelpfulone: so quick
[18:22:48] <Nemo_bis>	 thanks!
[18:23:31] <Thehelpfulone>	 no problem, I thought I'd get a bunch done and that bug updated before someone shouted because they get an email from Bugzilla when I sudo them with the subject: [Bugzilla] Your account <email> is being impersonated
[18:25:09] <Nemo_bis>	 lol
[18:30:33] <Nemo_bis>	 heh https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Extension&diff=0&oldid=620358
[20:12:42] <kaldari>	 what's the deal with Jenkins? it seems to be failing all the time randomly.
[20:12:50] <Ryan_Lane>	 kaldari: for what?
[20:13:03] <Ryan_Lane>	 kaldari: for which repo?
[20:13:05] <kaldari>	 in gerrit for building
[20:13:21] <kaldari>	 deployment branches especially
[20:14:13] <kaldari>	 Here's an example: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42119/
[20:14:19] <kaldari>	 any idea what's going on here?
[20:16:45] <kaldari>	 andre_: You know anything about this? ^
[20:17:14] <andre__>	 kaldari: I have nothing to do with Jenkins. chrismcmahon might be a better person to ask :)
[20:17:20] <kaldari>	 thanks
[20:17:23] <andre__>	 I only have my Bugzilla and I'm happy with that beast ;)
[20:17:30] <kaldari>	 NP :)
[20:18:21] <sumanah>	 or anomie might know, kaldari 
[20:18:57] <chrismcmahon>	 dunno.  I'm not even sure I have shell on gallium, but something wrong with '/var/lib/jenkins/jobs/mediawiki-core-phpunit-misc/workspace/logs/junit.xml might be a place to start
[20:20:25] <anomie>	 unit test segfaulted, it looks like. You could try having Jenkins run it again and see if it was a one-time thing, or you could try running the same unit test locally and see if it fails for you.
[20:21:06] <kaldari>	 yeah, it worked when the change was resubmitted
[20:21:23] <kaldari>	 but this seems to be happening pretty often
[20:22:04] <DaBPunkt>	 new-wiki-day today? ;)
[20:22:14] <anomie>	 Could be a flaky unit test
[20:22:28] <sumanah>	 DaBPunkt: you mean new version of MediaWiki on the WMF sites?
[20:23:35] <DaBPunkt>	 sumanah: new, the creation of 2 new wikivoyages and wikisource (and 1 wikisourve, but I guess that's a mistake ;))
[20:25:43] <kaldari>	 that's weird, on the resubmit, Jenkins first gives Checked Build (successful), then Fails Build (failed), then Starting gate-and-submit jobs. (no score), which I've never seen before
[20:50:11] <Reedy>	 DaBPunkt: It was 2 wikivoyages, a wikisource and a wikisourve
[20:50:13] <Reedy>	 ;)
[22:41:48] <bsitu>	 going to run scap
[22:52:53] <mutante>	 LeslieCarr: last error i see in syslog is still the  regexp buffer overflow :/
[22:53:57] <LeslieCarr>	 that phrase makes me want to smash my laptop
[22:54:01] <LeslieCarr>	 lesliehulk smash!
[23:09:43] <DaBPunkt>	 gn8 folks