[00:35:35] saper: ah [00:35:44] >1 month old... i guess ipv6 still isn't that important ;) [00:36:45] felicity: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22028 is approaching 2 years, see comments [00:38:35] saper: it's probably changed since then, but it used to be that lists was on lily, so the reverse could just point there. [00:38:50] i guess it's now a service ip or something though, mark was fond of those ;) [01:10:48] gn8 folks [02:24:51] Hi all, is it possible to have an email added to a user account? My bot account's password on enwiki apparently got changed after I left, and I didn't set an email on it. [02:25:04] Reedy, ^^ [02:25:34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoxBot - I can confirm that it's Yetanotherx's bot, and he also has a cloak to prove it's him [02:25:48] (Soxred93 was his old username) [02:26:33] Thehelpfulone: Alternatively, I can get that account locked and start with User:XBot. But I'd like my actual bot back. :) [02:27:23] Except dammit, XBot exists on ruwiki. [04:16:58] Reedy: Ping. [06:22:40] Question for a friend: what font does Wikipedia use in its articles? [06:27:18] harej: ermmmmm, many? [06:27:22] harej: what language? [06:27:25] English. [06:27:40] also, what was i trying to remember to tell you and you were never there... [06:29:37] harej: looks like just "font-family: sans-serif". so it would vary from browser to browser, OS to OS, user to user, and machine to machine [06:30:36] in practice it means some arial or helvetica or whatever passes for that as default in linux distros [06:33:31] Question: is it possible to have an email added to a user account? My bot account's password on enwiki apparently got changed after I left, and I didn't set an email on it. [06:35:05] Yetanotherx: i don't see any sign that there's someone new around to answer (that wasn't here before). also it's a holiday weekend. but you can still try once in a while. good luck. ;-) [06:35:35] Yetanotherx: You lost your bot's password? [06:35:55] sounds like the answer is no [06:36:12] he gave the bot to some successor operator who then changed the password. i think [06:37:14] jeremyb: ah, thought there were. [06:39:04] Yetanotherx: there may be people around that could do it. or people that could be paged. but i assume it's not an emergency and also it requires someone that understands relevant policies (i.e. should we fill this request or not?) not just someone that has access to execute the change [06:42:29] Yeah, I understand. It's not an emergency. If no one can do it, I'll just get it globally locked and make a new account. I'd prefer ot have control over it, however. [10:18:11] domas: about the pagecounts dumps, would it be possible to extract sampled user-agent data for each page? even technically possible? [10:23:52] johang: I think you can ask also by filing a bug to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?component=Webstatscollector , if you don't get an answer [10:24:51] thanks, Nemo_bis. [10:26:38] johang: and of course you're aware of http://stats.wikimedia.org/#requests aren't you? [11:01:44] Nemo_bis: that's interesting. [13:11:03] sampled what? [13:11:14] nemo_bis: I can gladly ignore that [13:11:15] :) [13:12:13] domas: I mean a log file with 1/1000 (or so) of all requests [13:12:29] where each row has article name and user agent [13:12:32] we have such a log [13:12:37] it goes back few months [13:12:46] is it available publically? [13:15:07] no [13:18:32] well, then I'm unable to use it unless someone gives me access [13:19:43] is there a reason it's not publically available? privacy concerns? [16:38:47] Question: is it possible to have an email added to a user account? My bot account's password on enwiki apparently got changed after I left, and I didn't set an email on it. [16:45:01] Yetanotherx: so make a new bot account? [16:47:29] Yeah, that's what I figured. I'll get it globally locked and make a new one. Would have liked to get my account back, but ah well. [16:48:29] Yetanotherx: it's technically possible, but you'd have to show in some way that it's really your account [16:48:44] which is typically done with either the password or the email address :-) [16:49:06] what about account creation log? [16:49:11] valhallasw: I created it... [16:50:00] Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=newusers&user=&page=User%3ASoxBot&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= [16:51:11] how could the password change? [16:52:23] It was stored on the toolserver, and it's possible someone got it from there and changed it. I do know that someone who copied my code after my account expired forgot to change the login details so it was in fact able to log in, so it is possible that someone got the password and changed it. All I know is that the password that is in all the config files isn't working, which means it was likely changed. [16:53:06] I'll probably just make a new account anyway, though. [19:50:58] Someone in #wikipedia is reporting a slow wiki, where it seems to be stalling at bits.wikimedia.org [19:51:02] Is there anything wrong? [19:55:05] On dumps.wikimedia.org, why are there many files for any section with increasing file sizes? For example: enwiki-20121201-pages-meta-current1.xml-p000000010p000010000.bz2 47.6 MB [19:55:06] enwiki-20121201-pages-meta-current2.xml-p000010001p000025000.bz2 76.3 MB [19:55:06] enwiki-20121201-pages-meta-current3.xml-p000025001p000055000.bz2 118.1 MB [19:55:26] It ends with enwiki-20121201-pages-meta-current27.xml-p029625001p037804213.bz2 3.3 GB [20:02:50] smw_: i imagine they all have exactly the same # of pages in them (except the last one) and for some reason (sort order?) they increase? [20:03:08] TBloemink: elaborate? [20:03:12] maybe because it's some namespace with large articles (templates?) [20:03:24] jeremyb, they seem to have different sized ranges though [20:04:18] smw_: if not the same number of pages then maybe the same size of page id blocks? (where some are excluded because they were deleted) [20:04:24] smw_: maybe ranges try to much some ranges from -history- dump [20:04:35] s,much,match, [20:04:55] enwiki-20121201-pages-meta-history27.xml-p029625001p030503266.bz2 2.5 GB [20:05:03] anyway, we could just wait for ariel to answer or you could read the code and check yourself [20:05:06] enwiki-20121201-pages-meta-current27.xml-p029625001p037804213.bz2 3.3 GB [22:54:35] hello, can I ask a question here about weird visitor statistics [22:55:09] http://stats.grok.se/nl/201207/Hua_Shan article which normally gets viewed 5 times a day all of a sudden gets viewed 1 miljon times a day for 9 days [22:56:13] that's because some dutch news paper wrote an article about most read articles, and this one is on top [22:56:37] is this some sort of bot attack? But isn't 1 miljon views just not much then|/ [23:02:25] I wondered the same thing [23:02:50] It's some sort of glitch or bot 'attack' (more likely malfunction) certainly [23:02:56] There's not way it was organic [23:03:18] 1 miljon is in the normal range of viewers, so it would be a pretty unsuccesful attack [23:03:41] but indeed it's not that in the netherlands this topic had any attention [23:13:31] basvb: We may never know; this kinds of log don't hang around. But bot malfunction is my own working hypothesis. [23:14:04] ok, well the dutch big news paper could have done some better research at least [23:14:15] http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2694/Tech-Media/article/detail/3369653/2012/12/28/Hua-Shan-meest-gelezen-lemma-op-Nederlandstalige-Wikipedia.dhtml&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATAAOABA1Jn7hgVIAVAAWABiBW5sLU5M&cd=uMk1_NDuZCY&usg=AFQjCNH719n2zC9f03JBmyN [23:14:37] it's a bit shameful that they declare this the most popular topic without even considering something about bots [23:15:04] The BBC British coverage described them as "anomalies" [23:15:16] i.e. recognised that this was a highly unlikely most popular article. [23:16:04] indeed, well the dutch paper didn't say anything about it being weird [23:16:14] it stated it like it would be a perfectly normal topic :P [23:47:13] hello can anyone help me with a windows 7 problem? [23:47:50] it seems like an app auto runs or something putting my active window as not active.. i dont know if this makes sence? [23:48:13] this happens about every 5 mins [23:48:50] anyone? [23:51:04] Oblivion1500_: This channel's for Wikimedia server issues, not general tech support. Perhaps you could try ##windows? [23:51:40] thanks, i googled tech support