[00:58:14] Reedy: I'm quite not seeing your point on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41992 [00:58:21] are you asking for consensus? [00:59:12] no [00:59:24] your post seemed to suggest it should've been done already :p [01:00:07] Reedy: it should [01:00:12] I demand PERFECTION [01:00:37] main languages usually have this done from the start [01:00:55] but main languages got all their wikis last created in 2004 or so and nobody remembers :p [01:03:34] Reedy: Nemo_bis is just suggesting to use the tardis >.> so that he never knows [01:05:24] this reminds me that my sister wants a flying/flowing tardis for christmas [01:07:30] Not a pony? [01:08:17] noo we are from Veneto [01:08:23] horses are for eating [01:26:30] Reedy: Could you look up the follwing CentralAuth exception on meta? [01:26:43] [20819e06] 2012-11-11 01:25:28: Fatal exception of type MWException [10:02:10] Hey Reedy. Do you know where I can find some .dblist files with a list of WMF projects ? [10:02:28] I remember I found some months ago, I think it was on nagios, but I can't remember the exact path [10:02:42] it would be really helpful if you (or somebody else) could give me a link [10:20:47] Quentinv57: see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/mediawiki-config.git;a=tree [10:24:52] many thanks Raymond_ [10:27:26] I can't seem to log in on en.wikivoyage.org [10:27:36] Even send to myself a new temporary password [10:27:42] but nope, it still says it's incorrect.. [10:29:10] (I have a pre-existing user there) [11:22:23] Is there any problems with login at sewiki? [11:23:08] One user says he changed password and the last week he can't log in [13:23:43] Reedy: can you sync interwikis? [13:24:10] wikidata: was missing and I've removed a couple which would be better to let spread [14:01:17] Nemo_bis: You've updated it on meta? [14:02:02] Reedy: yes [14:04:24] Reedy: Great, you are back, can you update WikimediaIncubator to master, please? [14:30:30] Reedy? I am not bugging, but there is an issue that had a fix merged, but needs a soonish deployment. [14:30:50] I just started doing it before you pinged me the second time :p [14:30:52] ah, thanks :) [14:31:00] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32907 [14:31:05] InfoPage.i18n.php | 10 +++++----- [14:31:05] WikimediaIncubator.i18n.php | 2 ++ [14:31:15] Is that it? :/ [14:31:30] hmm... [14:31:49] as long its master, it should be covered :) [14:33:17] thank you for deploying on a Sunday :P [14:36:23] ah great, its good :) [14:37:03] or is it... [15:49:56] Reedy: any idea why it doesn't let me log in tho? [15:51:29] Reedy: actually now it does let me log in with the temporary password [15:51:33] tho not with the actually password [15:51:37] oh well, fixing it now then [16:32:11] Hello all. How can I login http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Main_Page ? [16:33:51] Avocato: Special:ListAdmin and ask someone to create you an account [16:35:41] Nemo_bis, I didn't know they just gave out wikitech accounts [16:36:09] Also it's Special:ListAdmins [16:37:58] Nemo_bis: Thanks [16:42:00] Krenair: well it's not my job to judge, the admin will [17:29:06] hmmm, down we go [18:15:38] hello [18:16:05] I get a lot of database errors while undeleting files on Commons [18:16:33] A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? .... Function: LocalFileRestoreBatch::execute [18:16:34] Error: 1213 Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (10.0.6.41) [18:16:47] is this known? [18:18:11] Those errors come and go [18:18:44] well, I get this once every 4 undeletions [18:19:44] Consistently 1 in every 4 undeletions? really? [18:20:11] yrsh [18:20:16] yeah [18:20:35] more or less [18:21:29] it's much more than a few errors time to time [18:22:30] it seems the IP mentioned is always the same (10.0.6.41), if it can help [18:24:32] commons master, doesn't really tell us a great deal [18:25:27] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_GosGroc I restored them all [18:34:17] Quick question: does [[Special:MergeAccount]] work on WikiVoyage yet? [18:34:29] Should do [18:35:06] Hmmm... OK. Let me try again, then. [18:35:30] Hey, that worked. Thanks :) [18:36:05] (It wasn't listed on [[Special:MergeAccounts]] on en.wikipedia, for some reason) [19:45:45] how do i use the api to export the latest revision when the original title redirects? [19:48:29] <^demon> BlankVerse: There's a redirects parameter for action=query that lets you resolve redirects. [19:48:35] thanks [21:22:50] Nemo_bis: ? [21:33:57] thedj: ? [21:46:25] Nemo_bis: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29470 [21:48:38] and i was wondering what you think about timezone info. we don't seem to have a real policy about it on commons as far as i can tell [21:54:56] thedj: I saw that comment, do you want help debugging it? [21:55:16] hmm I think there is something written somewhere [21:56:04] it was over a year ago so I don't remember, but indeed I'd have linked the policy had I found it [21:56:31] well if there isn't a policy or you can't find it, just use ISO8601 then :p [21:56:34] I'm pretty sure there are bots spreading that format to millions of files, though, so it's definitelt a standard? [21:57:33] Nemo_bis: I assume the intent for 29470 is that you wanted the time transcluded into the result right ? :D [21:58:14] thedj: the result? [21:58:30] the resultant wikitext [21:58:55] sure [22:00:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Formatting [22:01:11] I guess we should choose a wikitext which is easily digestable by parser functions and hence templates [22:01:25] but there's no mention of time format there [22:02:09] i think we should just do ISO8601, and then the information template can display it in any form it wants to. [22:02:49] like 2012-11-11T08:15Z ? [22:04:15] (this is currently not converted by the template) [22:04:50] hmm true. it only does yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss it seems [22:05:19] and it says nothing about timezones. anywhere in commons actually. [22:08:22] it says to follow ISO8601; but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Time_zone_designators says "If no UTC relation information is given with a time representation, the time is assumed to be in local time." [22:09:05] if time should be "local" to the wiki, or wgLocalTime, it's UTC [22:10:13] yeah. it just seems a bit stupid to collect time information without a timezone, if we don't properly process the timezone anyways in Commons. [22:11:14] well the users can still get some clue [22:11:48] date changes depending on TZ too [22:12:26] perhaps UW could use {{According to EXIF data}} to clarify that no control was performed [22:12:45] in contrast to a diligent user converting all the times to UTC [22:17:39] hey, Nemo_bis, you there? i'm thinking about your reply on meta. do you know of any current code that pulls articles from other wikis? (e.g. :mw: => :en:) instantcommons is one example obviously. [22:18:36] ori-l: you mean for configs? [22:19:11] we have several scripts and clients relying on config on other wikis I think [22:19:31] well, not configs exactly, since that's too broad and encompasses things like config vars etc [22:19:35] the spam blacklist loads the general blacklist from Meta as well, of course [22:19:35] i mean article contents [22:19:45] oh, that's a good example