[00:02:44] @AaronSchulz: what would we use to store deleted revisions? [00:03:00] there is a mw rfc on this [00:03:44] going to run scap [00:06:25] @aAaronSchulz: are you talking about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Page_deletion or some other one? [00:08:59] will catch up with you tomorrow ... getting late for u [00:08:59] ttyl [00:14:24] I take it, though, that it's still worth improving archive while we wait for decision on whether to scrap the archive table. [00:22:24] going to run scap *again* to sync to dewiki [00:22:38] are you changing messages? [00:23:15] Reedy: no. does that mean i could get by with a sync-dir? [00:23:29] the de messages haven't changed, but it wasn't previously enabled for de [00:23:58] yeah, just use sync-dir [01:10:38] about to run scap agina [01:10:40] again [01:11:03] had to do a follow-up deployment [01:53:14] !log updated payments cluster to ff8a1e791eaff47313 [01:53:30] Logged the message, Master [12:43:06] BBCWORLD: Scientists make fuel from air and water - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20003704#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa [12:43:28] Completely carbon neutral method for producing fully synthetic fuel [12:44:41] One litre takes 8 hrs to make with their set [12:45:09] Scientist says the process could be potentially very efficient [12:45:44] Marketing angle wants to use the new synthetic fuel to power race cars and airplanes [14:03:47] hi all [14:03:59] anybody reported problem on downloading extension on mw.org? [14:09:33] Yes [14:09:35] Many times [14:21:03] allright then, because I don't see it reported on wikitech-l [14:21:31] where can I follow the discussion about it? [14:41:52] guys, I got an email informing me that "csteipp" created the database for "Wikivoyage in English", named enwikivoyage. But I can not find the database on s3, in db.php or all.dblist [14:42:29] Hi DaBPunkt: Yeah, the script on beta in labs emails the group... sorry about that! [14:42:57] ah ok [17:57:11] I'm getting "[46532577] 2012-10-19 17:55:50: Fatal exception of type MWException" (code varies) when requesting recent changes on en.wikinews [18:12:06] brianmc, might be https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41187 ? [18:14:19] Went away when I switched my RC preferences from 150 to 50 and back again. [18:14:45] hey all - is there a reason that dumps.mediawiki.org doesn't have an AAAA but virtually every other mediawiki/mediawiki/wikipedia property does? [18:15:11] sorry, I mean dumps.wikimedia.org [18:55:27] FliesLikeABrick: because it's not yet IPv6 enabled [18:56:23] thanks for the answer. I didn't realize there were pieces of the infrastructure which weren't v6-enabled still (I thought maybe the AAAA just was missing/forgotten or maybe it was provided by a 3rd party service) [18:56:26] different infrastructure bits are more/less difficult to switch to IPv6 -- and once you switch one wiki, switching the rest is very little work -- however switching the wikis is a different problem than switching the non wiki stuff [18:57:07] understood, thanks [19:13:40] Good evening. Thumbnailing is broken at Commons. Details left at http://p.defau.lt/?JHZPBsQgWqyGl9HlcHzvQw [19:14:00] rillke: thanks, looking at it now [19:14:04] do you have any specific images? [19:14:24] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Detail_of_Beach_Volleyball_Player_-_Geneva_-_Switzerland.jpg/512px-Detail_of_Beach_Volleyball_Player_-_Geneva_-_Switzerland.jpg [19:14:32] Some cached are OK. [19:14:52] e.g. the 80px version works: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Detail_of_Beach_Volleyball_Player_-_Geneva_-_Switzerland.jpg/80px-Detail_of_Beach_Volleyball_Player_-_Geneva_-_Switzerland.jpg [19:15:38] but the 512px version throws an error (message & link above) [19:16:26] worked for me but I hear you [19:16:34] trying 513px :) [19:16:48] seems to work now [19:17:08] no I got the timeout for 513 [19:20:29] rillke: it seems we lost two imagescalers [19:20:44] At https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewFiles 4% of the files are not thumbnailed [19:20:46] we had nagios alerts but didn't notice them :( and we didn't get a whole "service down" alert yet [19:20:48] paravoid: how many are still using the old rsvg? [19:21:00] so, thanks for the ping [19:34:22] PHP Catchable fatal error: Object of class ParserOptions could not be converted to string in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf2/includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php on line 1088 [19:34:22] Reedy: I thought that was fixed [19:36:06] rillke: should be fixed now. thanks again! [19:38:00] paravoid: Thank you! [20:05:47] AaronSchulz: no, that one isn't [20:06:02] Oh, wait [20:08:45] AaronSchulz: different stack trace [20:09:02] aude fixed one in ApiQueryRevisions [20:09:28] Which isn't that bug [20:09:28] pfft [20:10:21] And I reported both stack traces in the same bug [20:11:10] // Should we save old revision parses to the parser cache? [20:11:10] $p_result = $this->content->getParserOutput( $titleObj, $popts ); [20:11:14] exactly the same bug, different path [20:18:39] Cheers AaronSchulz [20:18:41] deploying now [20:18:52] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28286/ [20:39:34] AaronSchulz: why 300 in one and 10 on the other? [20:39:54] authing should not take that long [20:40:08] PUT might take a long time for a huge file, so that one is trickier [20:40:17] right [20:40:31] gerrit doesn't give much surrounding code for context [20:40:39] you can set the amount of context you know :) [20:40:47] I use 50, sometimes bumping to 75 [20:41:01] when I use "git diff" I often use "git diff -U15" ;) [20:41:04] I seem to recall it used to have "load more" links at the top and bottom [20:41:15] 10 at the minimum [20:41:15] but that disappeared at somepoint... [20:42:02] * AaronSchulz needs to eat [20:42:47] Reedy: want to deploy that? :D [20:43:13] I can in a bit... [21:44:28] if there is staff around, can I ask who is looking after indexing, and restarting it where it is broken on our private wikis [21:45:06] trying to get some action on bugzilla:40846 [21:57:51] nobody, probably :) [22:13:15] notpeter: are you SEARCHING for something to do? :p [22:13:21] ^^ [22:42:19] Is irc.wikimedia.org down? [22:42:55] Seems a bit laggy... [22:42:55] I don't know, is it? [22:42:55] Bsadowski1: works for me, both http redirect and IRC connect [22:44:09] My bot just received data 2 minutes later [22:44:16] I mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Admin_hurting_machine [22:44:52] Like there at 17:39 and the feed was at 17:42 [22:44:57] 3* [22:46:19] It's fine right now. [22:54:50] AaronSchulz: what's bad about ReederFeedback? I hadn't heard of it before terry's gerrit change [22:55:42] it old, unmaintained, was intended as a prototype (though I didn't entirely know that at the time it was made), and was supposed to be replaced by AFT [22:56:02] the graphs it makes have problems since they render on the apaches and not the scalars [22:57:38] interesting [22:58:07] why wasn't it just improved? :) [22:58:45] well AFT was supposed to replace it, doing the same things roughly, but better, making it redundant [23:00:13] was there ever AFTv{2-4} ? [23:00:27] heh, I think so [23:01:24] Lol [23:01:27] AFT now has http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AGlobalUsers&username=&group=Staff&limit=50 [23:01:33] arrgh [23:01:34] 'version' => '0.2.0', [23:06:59] Reedy: can you staff flag me? [23:09:48] me too while at it [23:14:16] I don't think I have the rights to do that... [23:14:59] There is also a sysadmin group.. [23:20:29] AaronSchulz: Want me to flag you? [23:20:50] Guessing you're a crat? ;) [23:21:00] Probably better than me doing it via the database.. [23:21:00] I'm a steward. :) [23:21:07] that's what I meant [23:21:29] I know Roan did mine, but I can't actually find a log of it happening... [23:21:45] well I can do it that way too from the sound of it :) [23:22:08] AaronSchulz, what's your username on Meta? [23:22:12] well anywhere [23:22:26] Aaron Schulz [23:22:59] You want to do what exactly? Be in the system administator group or the staff one? [23:23:10] Bsadowski1: can you give binasher staff at the same time? [23:23:11] Is it temp or perm? [23:23:19] staff, perm [23:23:55] I wonder what benefits being in sysadmin has... [23:24:21] Hmm, I don't know.. I mean Philippe would have asked a steward to add you guys to the group by now right? [23:24:28] it has access to virtually everything... even more powerful than stewards [23:25:17] Bsadowski1: Its usually done on a "i need it" basis [23:25:36] Okay, so "Per request" :P [23:26:12] I mean, anyone with Shell can do stuff anyway... [23:27:15] Aaron Schulz, so "Needs it for work" would be a good reason to give you the flag right? it's logged, so I need to put something at least :) [23:29:41] AaronSchulz: if i give you the sha1 of an svg orig, can you find out what it is? [23:30:30] binasher: an svg? surely? ;) [23:30:51] AaronSchulz: Philippe [23:35:20] AaronSchulz: can you join sec [23:35:36] I am already there [23:36:04] binasher: img_sha1?