[00:57:12] gn8 folks [01:27:59] [[Tech]]; MZMcBride; /* Sidebar link script */ +reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4219485&oldid=4209667&rcid=3581431 [01:51:25] [[Tech]]; Rjd0060; /* Sidebar link script */ +; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4219532&oldid=4219485&rcid=3581450 [07:51:42] hi all,.. how do i know what templates are used in the mainpage of mediawiki.org? [07:59:50] deo: make sure you're logged into the wiki and then go to http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki&action=edit and look at the section near the bottom of the page "Templates used on this page:" [08:00:13] yup ive seen it dan-nl , but do i create all those template??? [08:01:03] ive created one already, but everytime i visited a template, theres a corresponding templates used for that partcular template... i think more than 10 template for each :( [08:01:18] deo: ahh, now that is where i also ran into trouble ... are you trying to implement those templates in your wiki as well? [08:01:26] do i need to create all of those? [08:01:29] yup dan-nl [08:01:43] just those 3 parts there that look like tables [08:02:10] those Using MediaWiki System Administration Developing and Extending [08:02:42] just that part onlye dan-nl,, i try to view those templates.. but each template give me more template as well.. im pretty confused now dan-nl [08:02:52] did you implement this on your page as well?? [08:02:54] dan-nl: ^ [08:03:04] deo: i tried to do something similar and ran into an endless stream of templates that include templates ... there is an export function ... need to find it again, but for whatever reason it didn't work for me ... [08:03:19] hhmmmmm [08:03:20] :( [08:03:28] yup endless templates.. [08:03:52] so you did not continue dan-nl ? [08:04:48] deo: yes, i also became frustrated with it and let go of trying to implement them and just created a very simple template for my current use with the thought of looking into it further ... will look for that export/import function ... one moment ... [08:05:03] ok thanks dan-nl :) [08:06:14] here's some info that may help http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates#Copying_from_one_wiki_to_another [08:06:54] yikes.... let me read this one [08:07:02] deo: when i tried to export/import the artwork template my local wiki hung, probably because the artwork template consists of so many other templates [08:07:50] yup i also experienced that dan-nl , when i try to create templates.. i think more than 50 already... my site hung [08:08:08] so this step did not work for you >? [08:08:11] deo: i then tried to export/import in batches, but it bcame too tedious and that's when i let go of the idea for now ... would love to hear if anyone knows how to do this [08:08:38] deo: not for the artwork template, but it might work for other templates, not sure [08:08:44] yeah me to.. @wikimedia-tech , if you can help us trying to figure this out.. [08:09:27] dan-nl: i just want to copy those 3 parts there.. the table like part [08:10:31] dan-nl: what did you do when your site hung??,, did you remove the export> [08:10:32] ? [08:11:52] deo: i tried it on a test wiki so i just threw the wiki out when it didn't work ... it imported some of the templates, but not all [08:12:16] hmmnn okay.. will try this out dan-nl, hopefully this will work for me [08:12:21] deo: and then of course some of those that imported successfully worked and some did not [08:12:38] hmmnn okay..thanks for the help dan-nl :) [08:12:56] deo: hopefully these templates you need are not as deep as the artwork template and it will succeed ... good luck! [08:13:07] thanks dan-nl :) [08:13:18] deo: but i'd definitely suggest trying it in a test wiki first [08:13:34] one last thing dan-nl , what artwork templates? [08:15:52] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Artwork [08:16:42] was there a picture? [08:16:52] i didnt see anything except for text [08:18:10] hi dan-nl follow up question... you did try to implement what is on the main page of mediawiki.org today? [08:20:14] deo: that link i sent you is a link to the actual template, the one i tried to export, i did not try to export any of the templates on mediawiki.org [08:20:44] ahhh okay, now i understand.... [08:21:04] deo: i did not try and do this today ... i did this a few weeks ago [08:21:05] maybe those templates on mediawiki.org main page is not to big for me [08:21:20] hopefully it will not hung :) [08:21:21] deo: hope not, only one way to find out ;) [08:21:32] lol , thanks dan-nl [11:15:13] so guys [11:15:26] we're trying the new secondary backend for media again today [11:15:43] so I need to know if uploads, renames and deletes of images are working [11:16:02] * apergos goes to look at new mediaon commons [11:17:39] New uploads look to be working [11:17:44] yep [11:17:54] just chcked that one of em got written to upload7 [11:18:18] oh looky a delete [11:18:25] (Deletion log); 11:17 . . Sreejithk2000 (talk | contribs) deleted page File:Garrod.xcf ‎(The file has .xcf as extension. Is it ok? Please check.) [11:18:38] (Upload log); 11:17 . . Ebaychatter0 (talk | contribs) uploaded a new version of File:Fisherman.svg ‎(Removed stroke) that's new version uploads [11:18:59] (Move log); 11:17 . . Botaurus (talk | contribs) moved page File:Lucas Cranach d.Ä. - Madonna mit Kind (ca.1525).jpg to File:Lucas Cranach d.Ä. - Madonna mit Kind (ca.1520).jpg ‎(other year) and there's a move [11:19:02] whee [11:37:14] apergos: xcf files should work [11:37:28] apergos: hexmode wrote a media handler for it. They are GIMP native file format :) [11:37:45] grmblbl unrelated which your issue [11:37:46] ah I'm monitoring that for another reason though :-D [11:41:31] Plenty of uploads and deletes on commons [11:41:41] not so many moves, but I'd imagine that's normal [11:42:26] err, plenty of uploads and moves [11:43:20] I've just deleted and restored a file fine [12:35:48] what can I check when I can't connect to upload.wikimedia.org? [12:36:18] What's the error? [12:37:15] Reedy: $ ping upload.wikimedia.org [12:37:15] ping: unknown host upload.wikimedia.org [12:37:29] means your DNS server isn't resolving it [12:37:44] Reedy: but both nslookup and dig work [12:37:54] o_0 [12:38:11] what's tracert/traceroute tell you? [12:38:29] upload.wikimedia.org: Name or service not known [12:38:30] Cannot handle "host" cmdline arg `upload.wikimedia.org' on position 1 (argc 1) [12:38:53] flush your local dns cache? [12:39:44] Reedy: I don't know where's one, or how to flush it [12:39:54] What OS? [12:40:04] debian [12:41:14] which apparently doesn't cache DNS by default.. [12:42:52] I have bind and pdnsd installed but I'm not using them [12:43:16] from googling.. suggestions include restarting [12:44:44] Reedy: always try restarting [12:44:56] shut app [12:45:01] I've not got issues ;) [12:45:01] reup app [12:45:17] if ( not helpful the previous things ) reboot OS [12:45:47] o-lol [12:45:57] liangent: but are you sure you are not using them? [12:46:58] AVRS: I don't have 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' in my resolv.conf [12:47:01] is it enough [12:47:04] liangent: me neither [12:47:10] but pdnsd is used [12:47:30] pdnsd-ctl empty-cache upload.wikimedia.org [12:48:04] AVRS: nice it works now. but how is it used? [12:48:48] liangent: I don't remember [12:48:52] in some other file [12:49:44] lol [12:50:06] I read that as "in some other life" :-D [12:51:24] which are other files that can be used to configure dns server? [12:51:53] I only want it to serve other devices connected to my private network [12:51:54] Check where resolv.conf actually is. [12:52:10] But it seems not to be that… seems [12:53:00] AVRS: isn't it /etc/resolv.conf? [12:53:29] liangent: It's a symlink. [12:53:43] liangent: maybe 127.0.0.1 is always used by default? [12:53:52] But you've replaced bind with pdnds. [12:55:18] AVRS: stat shows it's not a symlink.. [12:56:18] liangent: ok, maybe I've installed resolvconf myself [13:02:30] on VP/T there is a report that some users (FF 15) get "Scripts should use an informative User-Agent string with contact information, or they may be IP-blocked without notice" when trying to access a CSS page on bits.... [13:03:01] does anyone know if there have been changes to the UA check recently ? [13:03:41] or possibly the bits error got cached in squid or something .... [13:07:19] liangent: oh, maybe it is used because of my LAN address in the resolv.conf. I didn't recognize the address. [13:07:48] the url was http://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=mediawiki.action.history.diff&only=styles&skin=vector&* [13:08:15] liangent: it is, of course [13:09:10] AVRS: but I believe my addr is not in it. [13:20:50] Filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40856 [17:17:01] is it possible to check by API if a user is blocked, and if so, why? [17:18:21] If it's an user, i know that it's possible, but i can't find how to check on IP cases [17:38:04] apergos: upload7 isn't mounted on hume? [18:03:11] Enwiki deployment is going ahead [18:03:18] Just not for 29 minutes or so [18:04:06] thanks for the update Reedy [18:55:16] Aaron|home: I dunno about that but I do see a lot of [18:55:20] 323404 0.00001 hume.wikimedia.org -> ms7 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=2C0D 5c92a6fa23dce4db951cb8cf237378a8.png [18:56:08] ms7.pmtpa.wmnet:/export/upload on /mnt/upload6 type nfs (rw,bg,soft,tcp,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,addr=10.0.0.246) [18:56:16] that's from hume [18:56:26] I don't see it in /mnt [18:56:33] upload6 [18:56:44] that's what I'm trying to track down and stomp on [18:57:17] if you can have a look when you have a few minutes (if it's you, if it's not then, well, I'll ask around some more) [18:58:16] I'm not running anything [18:58:25] * Aaron|home just wants upload7 mounted [19:00:28] ah [19:00:36] I wonder if that's in puppet someplace [19:02:51] heh it has upload 3 4 5 and 6 [19:03:37] :-/ [19:03:42] needs change on nas1 [19:07:52] Aaron|home: check now [19:22:19] !log Started syncFileBackend.php (swift -> nas) on screens on hume (s1-s3,s5-s7) [19:22:30] Logged the message, Master [20:47:01] !log Started syncFileBackend.php (swift -> nas) on screens on hume (s4) [20:47:12] Logged the message, Master [20:56:58] apergos: is nas in ganglia? [20:57:35] I'd suspect not [21:00:22] Aaron|home: RT #3669 ;) [21:11:40] Reedy: So no deployment today? [21:11:57] Yeah, already done [21:12:04] Oh, I thought 1.21wmf2 was today. [21:12:08] I guess that's next week. [21:12:17] Well, fair enough, then. [21:12:52] enwiki 1.21wmf1 was today [21:13:08] bookmark https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21/Roadmap :)