[00:00:04] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[00:00:19] <Bsadowski1>	 brion :D
[00:00:39] <brion>	 \o/
[01:08:53] <Krinkle>	 weird, on the Instance page the FQDM property is fine
[01:08:56] <Krinkle>	 https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:I-0000049c
[01:08:59] <Krinkle>	 it is just on the project page
[01:09:12] <Krinkle>	 FQDN	 i-0000049c.pmtpa.wmflabs
[01:09:16] <Krinkle>	 https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Integration
[01:09:29] <Krinkle>	 FQDN	 integration-wikibugs i-0000049c.pmtpa.wmflabs
[01:10:36] <Damianz>	 Krinkle: Wrong channel?
[01:10:42] <Krinkle>	 yeah
[01:10:56] <Ryan_Lane>	 Krinkle: we have the same property defined twice on the page
[02:59:53] <deo>	 hi all, can you help me with this?,.. i can't upload an image in my wiki, theres an error... Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/9/95". 
[04:46:07] <ankry>	 Hi
[04:46:22] <ankry>	 Any problems with wikisource servers?
[04:46:31] <ankry>	 http://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Odezwa_do_żołnierzy_Polskich_Sił_Zbrojnych_(1977)
[04:46:55] <ankry>	 reports an error for 10 hours or more
[04:47:21] <ankry>	 I can edit this page, but no preview
[04:47:25] <ankry>	  
[04:47:35] <ankry>	 Or is it a bug?
[07:09:46] <deo>	 hi, how to notify sysop if new page is created in mediawiki ???
[07:09:57] <deo>	 through email..
[07:47:49] <Hydriz>	 cool, MWMultiVersion is totally defined out of nowhere in CommonSettings.php, how the..?
[12:26:23] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 are the devs currently aware that it isn't possible to delete a file on English Wikipedia due to an apparent bug?
[12:26:50] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 every time I try to make a deletion, I get a message like this one:
[12:26:51] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Error deleting file: Could not create directory "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-deleted/3/o/r".
[12:27:11] <Reedy>	 apergos: ^
[12:27:31] <apergos>	 blah
[12:27:31] <Reedy>	 mark: paravoid ^
[12:27:46] <Reedy>	 Magog_the_Ogre: we are now ;)
[12:27:58] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 :)
[12:28:48] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 I've tried it on a few images this morning, same result
[12:29:42] <DaBPunkt>	 Is it a good sign that all enwp-admins just ignored the problem and only 1 came to here after several hours?
[12:29:43] <Reedy>	 In the last hour or so?
[12:29:46] <mark>	 hm
[12:30:53] <apergos>	 several hours?
[12:31:15] <apergos>	 when did the problem start showing up?
[12:31:31] <DaBPunkt>	 apergos: soory, I assumed Magog_the_Ogre lives in the same timezone as I – this may be wrong :)
[12:31:36] <apergos>	 ah
[12:31:51] <apergos>	 Magog_the_Ogre: when did you first start seeing the error (how long ago)?
[12:31:51] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 I live on east coast US
[12:32:07] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 I just saw it when I logged in this morning and started to do my normal deletions and they failed
[12:32:13] <mark>	 so more than one hour ago
[12:32:28] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Magog_the_Ogre
[12:32:38] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 no, about 10 minutes ago is when it started
[12:32:57] <Reedy>	 Well, when you first tried..
[12:33:09] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 11 minutes ago now :)
[12:33:35] <mark>	 the 12:21 change is the first one that failed, right?
[12:33:57] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 yes
[13:01:35] <apergos>	 Magog_the_Ogre: can you do another one please and tell me what happens (save the error message if there is one)?
[13:03:55] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 apergos, 
[13:03:56] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Error deleting file: Table Rock waterbar.jpg
[13:03:56] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Error deleting file: Could not create directory "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-deleted/4/t/d".
[13:08:58] <apergos>	 ok and one more please
[13:09:02] <apergos>	 Magog_the_Ogre: 
[13:09:27] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Error deleting file: Tabfamily-solarize.png
[13:09:27] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Error deleting file: Could not read or write file "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-public/3/3a/Tabfamily-solarize.png" due to insufficient permissions or missing directories/containers.
[13:09:42] <apergos>	 grrrr
[13:13:17] <apergos>	 so the archive permission helped but wasn't sufficient
[13:13:36] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 apparently
[13:16:08] <apergos>	 can you view one before you delete it and give me the upload path?  I'll try changing something and then have you try the delete
[13:16:44] <apergos>	 in other words go to the File: page, click through, give me the url from that in here
[13:17:07] <apergos>	 Magog_the_Ogre: 
[13:17:15] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3ATabernacle-view.jpg
[13:17:21] <apergos>	 ok just a sec
[13:17:24] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Tabernacle-view.jpg
[13:18:13] <apergos>	 ok so can you try deleting that please?
[13:18:55] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 it worked!
[13:18:58] <apergos>	 ok so
[13:19:02] <apergos>	 next, find me another one
[13:19:09] <apergos>	 don't do anything to it yet just give me th  url
[13:19:19] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Tabemas.jpg
[13:19:20] <apergos>	 I gotta see how much of the perms I gotta fix before it works
[13:19:52] <apergos>	 try deleting that now
[13:19:53] <Danny_B|backup>	 skwikiquote: ERROR while deleting file, can't create dir mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-deleted/j/v/r
[13:20:03] <apergos>	 Danny_B|backup: yep, we're working on it
[13:20:13] <Danny_B|backup>	 ah, i see
[13:20:19] <apergos>	 this is a side effect of the move 
[13:20:37] <Danny_B|backup>	 just ping me when it should work so i can verify it for you
[13:20:45] <apergos>	 great
[13:20:58] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Error deleting file: Tabemas.jpg
[13:20:58] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Error deleting file: Could not read or write file "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-public/d/d1/Tabemas.jpg" due to insufficient permissions or missing directories/containers.
[13:20:59] <apergos>	 Magog_the_Ogre: pass or fail?
[13:21:04] <apergos>	 ohhh that's bad
[13:22:07] <Danny_B|backup>	 fyi: the file was deleted, but the file page is still being shown as existing
[13:22:38] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Danny_B|backup means, the description page was deleted, but not the image
[13:23:16] <Danny_B|backup>	 well the page is still shown
[13:23:24] <Danny_B|backup>	 although the menu says "create" and "undelete"
[13:24:02] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Danny_B|backup, it's also not allowing reupload
[13:24:18] <Danny_B|backup>	 or wait - that's just automatical template page for files, right?
[13:25:21] <apergos>	 the file was in fact not deleted, I see it still sitting there on the filesystem (in swift who knows but on the secondary backend)
[13:25:30] <Danny_B|backup>	 anyway, ping me when ready to test as i said above
[13:26:43] <Danny_B|backup>	 and for the reference, it was this file: https://sk.wikiquote.org/wiki/S%C3%BAbor:Btn_strike.png
[13:40:51] <Reedy>	 lol, Danny_B|backup I wouldn't have bothered :p
[13:41:10] <Reedy>	 it'll be reverted within a minute or 2
[13:41:13] <Danny_B|backup>	 there might be more ppl like me coming and asking
[13:42:19] <Reedy>	 like, now...
[13:46:31] <apergos>	 can folks verify that  uploads and deletes are workingnow?
[13:48:13] <apergos>	 Magog_the_Ogre and Danny_B|backup
[13:48:39] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 working
[13:49:16] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 just a permissions error on a new server box, eh?
[13:49:34] <apergos>	 yeah, left off some rsync args
[13:49:42] <apergos>	 so we are going to have to try this again later
[13:53:05] <Danny_B|backup>	 and can you delete that deleted file?
[13:54:21] <Danny_B|backup>	 new deletions work
[13:55:35] <Reedy>	 restore and re-delete it?
[13:57:30] <apergos>	 Reedy: thanks for being around for this
[13:57:37] <apergos>	 sucks we will have to go through it all again
[13:57:46] <apergos>	 hopefully next time is easier and without problems
[14:01:25] <Danny_B|backup>	 Reedy: i actually deleted it via "delete all versions"
[14:01:34] <Danny_B|backup>	 and it's not logged in delete log
[14:52:30] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Rjd0060; /* Sidebar link script */ +com; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4206805&oldid=4200884&rcid=3574604
[15:46:17] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Is there anyone working on analytics here?
[15:46:44] <jeblad_WMDE>	 As in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics
[15:47:21] <Reedy>	 Not in here, seemingly..
[15:47:25] <Reedy>	 dschoon is in other channels
[15:47:50] <Reedy>	 it's just a little early for the SF staff
[15:47:50] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Reedy: Thanks, is he one of the key figures?
[15:48:40] <Reedy>	 If you want a manager, you want drdee/Diederik...
[15:48:43] <Reedy>	 What are you trying to find out?
[15:48:50] <Reedy>	 /ask/whatever?
[15:49:31] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Someone is trying to start a new analytics project without talking to the people involved
[15:49:46] <Reedy>	 lols
[15:50:08] * jeblad_WMDE  mumbles yet another traffic analyzer

[15:50:55] <Reedy>	 They're the bestest
[15:51:12] <jeblad_WMDE>	 ...well, I goes back to a pesky memory leak...
[15:51:57] <jeblad_WMDE>	 one request and the server spirals down, yeah, nice if that one goes into production!
[15:53:11] <Reedy>	 we've got plenty more ;)
[16:12:05] <Raymond_>	 Is the Fatal exception of type MWException on Commons by clicking https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&returnto=Special:UserLogin known?
[16:12:38] <Reedy>	 When trying to signup?
[16:12:42] <hoo>	 Raymond_: Works for me?!
[16:12:54] <Raymond_>	 pls log out
[16:12:55] <Reedy>	 Hmm
[16:12:58] <Reedy>	 Yeah, was just gonna say
[16:13:01] <Reedy>	 works logged in
[16:13:06] <Raymond_>	 weird
[16:13:10] <Reedy>	 let me have a look
[16:13:16] <Raymond_>	 [6b9282a0] 2012-10-05 16:11:41: Fatal exception of type MWException
[16:13:24] <hoo>	 mhm, yes
[16:13:32] <Raymond_>	 I got a report from another wikipedia
[16:13:40] <Raymond_>	 and I can reproduce it
[16:13:48] <Reedy>	 I can too logged out
[16:13:53] <Reedy>	 I've got a stack trace
[16:14:14] <hoo>	 Raymond_: Maybe it depends on the rights... have you tried it with a new account?
[16:14:24] <Raymond_>	 maybe missing captcha due to the maintenance today?
[16:14:34] <hoo>	 My test wiki (more or less on the current master) works
[16:14:36] <Reedy>	 hoo: I've reproduced it
[16:14:39] <hoo>	 (no CA)
[16:14:45] <Reedy>	 Raymond_: exactly
[16:14:54] <Reedy>	 Exception from line 94 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf1/extensions/ConfirmEdit/FancyCaptcha.class.php: Ran out of captcha images
[16:15:33] <hoo>	 ah, so it works for us, because we got the skipcaptcha rights, but anons. don't
[16:15:43] <Reedy>	 yeah, sounds about right
[16:15:55] <Raymond_>	 hoo: as I said; log out first :P
[16:16:20] <hoo>	 Raymond_: I always got a midori running in private mode beside my Fx for testing :D
[16:16:31] <Reedy>	 $wgCaptchaDirectory = '/mnt/upload6/private/captcha';
[16:16:34] <Raymond_>	 ah :)
[16:17:38] <Reedy>	 They're mounted]
[16:17:43] <Reedy>	 BRION! ;)
[16:17:53] <hoo>	 still broken
[16:18:15] <Reedy>	 I didn't say it was fixed
[16:18:16] <Reedy>	 :p
[16:18:21] <hoo>	 Oh, sorry :P
[16:18:51] <Reedy>	 I'm trying to work out where captcha-render is..
[16:26:53] <Reedy>	 ["captcha-render"]=> string(28) "/mnt/upload6/private/captcha"
[16:29:16] <Reedy>	 Ugh this needs fixing
[17:30:49] <Reedy>	 For anyone that's listening, this should be fixed now
[19:45:50] <Reedy>	 laglaglaglaglaglaglaglaglaglag
[21:43:35] <shriphani>	 hello everyone. I am looking for a dump of talk pages of all articles. Is there somewhere I can get this dump?
[21:45:39] <hoo>	 shriphani: See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps ;)
[21:48:02] <Alchimista>	 hoo: he is looking for a dump where he can analyse user talkpages
[21:48:16] <Alchimista>	 pages-meta-history.xml has them, right?
[21:48:32] <hoo>	 Alchimista: Analyze the text?
[21:48:37] <hoo>	 Current revision or all?
[21:48:50] <shriphani>	 Also pages-meta-current says it has discussion pages. Does that contain archived discussions as well ?
[21:49:31] <shriphani>	 hoo: I am looking for: user + discussion of every article (ideally)
[21:49:35] <hoo>	 shriphani: Yes, that contains all pages in the given wiki (except deleted)
[21:50:31] <shriphani>	 where can I see the xml structure for the dump ?
[21:50:53] <shriphani>	 also, do you know of any good parsing tools (python, java whatever) for going through a wikipedia dump ?
[21:51:28] <hoo>	 shriphani: I've never worked with them except importing them into MW itself
[21:52:07] <Alchimista>	 me neither. peraps try download form a very small project, with just a few pages and check
[23:20:55] <DaBPunkt>	 gn8 folks