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[09:09:21] <Dereckson>	 Hello.
[09:10:08] <Dereckson>	 ja.wikipedia would like to add a 'deletelogentry' right (a right sysop have) to a deleters group, called there 'Eliminator'.
[09:15:27] <hashar>	 Dereckson: sorry I am too busy this week :-(
[09:16:52] <deo_>	 hi all where can we find the error log when the users failed to login to the wiki....
[09:33:20] <Nemo_bis>	 deo_: #mediawiki !
[09:34:03] <Nemo_bis>	 Dereckson: does that right also imply the right to see deleted log entries? (I guess so)
[09:35:25] <Nemo_bis>	 en.wiki recently got a negative opinion from the legal department about extending the right to see deleted article revisions to a less-than sysop group; other than this (quite strange btw) opposition or similar one, there shouldn't be anything stopping such a change with a normal bug+consensus
[09:38:52] <Dereckson>	 Nemo_bis: they already have this right
[09:39:15] <Dereckson>	 this is 'browsearchive'
[10:00:40] <Nemo_bis>	 Dereckson: browsearchive works for logs?
[10:10:18] <Dereckson>	 okay, logs != article revisions
[10:10:59] <Dereckson>	 hey, "about extending the right to see deleted article revisions" <-- you said the legal opinion considered article revisions
[10:11:57] <Nemo_bis>	 Dereckson: yes, but I suppose they'd have similar concerns for logs
[10:12:04] <Dereckson>	 according the documentation, browsearchive "allows prefix searching for titles of deleted pages through Special:Undelete" and deletelogentry "allows deleting/undeleting information (action text, summary, user who made the action) of specific log entries"
[10:12:24] <Nemo_bis>	 anyway, just a fyi, the legals care only about en.wiki anyway
[10:12:33] <Dereckson>	 oh, so it's a kind of oversight
[10:12:44] <Nemo_bis>	 it's what replaced oversight
[10:13:00] <Dereckson>	 Well, what ja. wants is to come back to 1.19 behavior
[10:13:07] <Nemo_bis>	 ??
[10:13:13] <Nemo_bis>	 oh, because the right was split?
[10:13:23] <Dereckson>	 before 1.20 introduce the split of 'deleterevision' into seperate 'deletelogentry' and 'deleterevision' I understood
[10:13:32] <Dereckson>	 yes, indeed
[10:13:40] <Nemo_bis>	 then restoring both is a trivial request :)
[10:14:01] <Nemo_bis>	 that split was done mainly for global groups IIRC
[10:15:10] <Dereckson>	 If you're interested to comment or review, it's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40521 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25231/
[17:55:04] <Aaron|home>	 apergos: so we still need to handle http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Swift/Open_Issues_Aug_-_Sept_2012/Cruft_on_ms7#docroot
[17:55:39] <apergos>	 ah can you move stuff to done anything that is actually done (as in deployed) btw?
[17:56:25] <apergos>	 so I thought hashar got favicon already
[17:56:50] <apergos>	 but robots.txt, I dunno about that one
[17:58:13] <Aaron|home>	 I don't know if he did the upload.wikimedia.org favicon
[17:58:31] <apergos>	 oh.  hmmm maybe you're right 
[18:02:34] <Aaron|home>	 apergos: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24818/ easy
[18:02:54] <apergos>	 looking...
[18:04:04] <paravoid>	 Aaron|home: are you coming to the office today?
[18:04:15] <Aaron|home>	 no
[18:04:58] <paravoid>	 is it wfh-day? :) more than half of the engineering is missing
[18:05:14] <apergos>	 I hope you're working form home :-P
[18:05:29] <paravoid>	 I'm not :)
[18:05:46] <paravoid>	 I didn't travel half across the globe to stay in a tiny hotel room all day :P
[18:06:37] <robla>	 no?
[18:07:49] <apergos>	 steal someone else's desk at least
[18:12:47] <robla>	 Reedy: are you finishing off wmf12?
[18:12:50] <apergos>	 Aaron|home: it will be live on the next puppet run(s)
[18:14:12] <Reedy>	 aye
[18:16:32] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: 285 remaining wikis to 1.20wmf12
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[18:18:29] <Reedy>	 All quiet
[18:31:38] <Aaron|home>	 apergos1: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24308/
[18:53:06] <Aaron|home>	 apergos: did you see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24308/ or were you disconnected?
[18:53:22] <apergos>	 yes, just in a billion other conversations at once
[18:57:36] <apergos>	 will be live wherever on the next puppet run
[18:59:29] * Damianz  runs away before swift goes down

[19:13:53] <Aaron|home>	 apergos: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23392/
[19:14:31] <apergos>	 what's the reationale behind that Aaron|home ?
[19:14:53] <Aaron|home>	 I see no purpose to hiding the tag, and it already shows when a file is not in squid but is in swift
[19:15:11] <Aaron|home>	 one can see it with live headers in FF
[19:16:07] * Aaron|home  wants to nuke copy2 as well