[00:14:23] Nemo_bis: At least there's a good reason for duping up there. [02:27:16] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf11) at Wed Sep 12 02:27:16 UTC 2012 [02:27:27] Logged the message, Master [02:34:30] gj [02:52:12] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf10) at Wed Sep 12 02:52:12 UTC 2012 [02:52:21] Logged the message, Master [05:05:30] Brooke: orly [07:52:04] yikes... [07:52:06] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=File%3AAudio-mp3.svg [07:52:25] it seems this file lost it's page when a user uploaded a new version of the file... [08:51:57] [[Tech]]; Ruslik0; /* Two broken javascripts */ ; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4121168&oldid=4120070&rcid=3523698 [12:10:49] can please someone fix the rendering issue of math-tags on "de.wikiboks.org", Example-Page: < http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Primzahlen:_IIIb._Kapitel:_Primfaktorzerlegung > PNGs are not shown, alt-descriptions are shown instead. [15:36:40] ThePacker above seems to never have gotten an answer and he's gone now. I reopened bug 40116 for his issue [15:36:44] !b 40116 [15:36:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40116 [15:40:15] I would expect a null edit to force re-rendering [15:40:18] that's not so awesome [15:41:51] apergos: i was thinking it could be in swift but negative cached in e.g. squid [15:42:28] I don't know how we purge math images [15:42:56] i don't even really know how they're made. e.g. what's the hash a hash of? [15:43:38] these ones might be a three level hash... or they were, I think the containers are two level in swift [15:44:02] aaron will have it fresh in his head since he made the changes just recently [15:44:02] right, but what's the input to the hash function? [15:44:29] btw, /me was trying and failing last night to whois 'auth.gr' [15:44:37] is that some official gov domain? [15:44:52] it's a university [15:45:32] huh [15:45:43] looks like .gr has no whois-service at all [15:45:53] there is a web whois with a captcha [15:46:00] but it still won't tell you the owner [15:46:06] 12 02:38:58 <+jeremyb> https://grweb.ics.forth.gr/Whois?lang=en sent me to http://www.gunet.gr/11.php [15:46:19] 12 02:39:02 <+jeremyb> and now i'm stuck [15:46:34] that's the registrar [15:46:48] auth is the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki [15:47:08] it's like the biggest or second biggest university in Greece [15:47:18] spam was: hey check out the newest mega uploaad style site at http://orfeas dot civil dot auth.gr/ [15:47:22] on IRC [15:47:37] haha [15:47:50] "civil" is the civil engineering department [15:48:37] that won't last long, that university is responsive to infringement/abuse notices [15:48:53] would you like to send one? ;) [15:49:17] * jeremyb wonders if Reedy or someone wants to do a few shell reqs [15:50:02] oh it appears to be the first 32 bytes of the output of texvc, which must produce some sort of hash when processing [15:50:46] today is anotehr all day long meeting actually [15:50:54] in fact through Friday [15:50:58] oh, cool [15:51:02] apergos: i figured [15:51:26] i was getting mail from SF at 6am your time ;P [15:51:55] well I woke up at 5 am again but I was able to get back to sleep for awhile [15:52:05] and I promise I did not send any emails [15:55:22] no, was fundraiser ppl [15:57:02] quickly: is the watchlist-star-keeps-turning-upon-click bug reported yet? [15:57:10] (started last week) [15:58:29] the watchlist stuff isn't on my radar, I have no idea [16:13:56] good morning aharoni [16:14:33] hola [17:06:42] ThePacker: see bug 40116 [17:06:48] jeremyb i saw your answer in logfile. apergos hint that a nulledit would help doesnt do it. even ?action=purge doesnt force rendering [17:07:14] ThePacker: i assumed apergos was replying to what i said in the bug [17:07:23] ThePacker: did you see what i said? [17:07:37] yes currently reading : http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/logs/%23wikimedia-tech/20120912.txt [17:07:44] no [17:07:50] not on IRC. in the bug [17:07:56] i know [17:09:11] you sure b:40116 doesnt seem to address this issue [17:10:17] err, maybe i was too trigger happy. maybe it will end up getting split off [17:10:33] anyway, the right people got notified and that's good enough for now ;) [17:10:49] thank you jeremyb [17:10:56] anyway, did you read what *I* said on the bug? [17:11:02] about what i tried to do? [17:11:37] cant read because bug 40116 is not the correct bug [17:11:54] ok, i give up [17:11:58] wasnt updated since 2004 [17:12:25] it was just filed this month [17:12:30] to begin with [17:12:36] i use: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40116 [17:12:48] well that's your problem [17:12:57] use our bugzilla? [17:13:01] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40116#c4 [17:13:14] well : my fault: [17:13:20] (the link was in the IRC log) [17:13:34] chatzilla was stupid ;-) [17:16:49] i read your comments. Only editing math formulas seem to help. thank you, for reporting this bug to the right place. I come along to this bug, whenever \, and \{space} is used in formulas [17:17:16] oh, you can *make* it happen? [17:17:57] i just noticed it, i will check that. [17:19:29] sorry nope, can't reproduce it this way: http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Spielwiese [17:21:26] jeremyb: found one: at same place [17:22:36] getting 404 for http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/e/b/8eb2364e5437fbbefa90da930fb69a31.png [17:22:48] so would you say it's not entirely predictable? [17:22:55] apergos: he got it to happen again on another page [17:23:07] i assume i should poke aaron... [17:23:18] he might bite [17:23:19] or maybe it's even a hashar thing? [17:23:28] you should let him know, yes [17:23:38] him = aaron [17:24:07] hashar's been working with fonts for math i think [17:24:27] ok but I assume this is not a font issue [17:24:28] apergos: does this hit rewrite.py ? [17:24:32] since some items on the page render [17:24:46] sure. just thinking who's touched math at all [17:24:57] I really would try aaron first [17:25:03] don't rack your brains at this plint [17:25:06] maybe bad squdcache? [17:25:07] *point [17:25:09] right [17:25:14] ThePacker: i mentioned that ;) [17:25:35] and I will follow the conversation too, I'm trying to track what is moved off of ms7 and what's still giving us problems [17:26:07] can report for sure that this bugs us now for three days [17:26:19] jeremyb: yup I did add the computer modern font to imagescaler [17:26:19] s [17:26:28] well until last night I had heard that puring the page always cleared it up [17:26:44] jeremyb: probably not related to math files being missing [17:27:01] hashar: sure. just thought maybe you had a clue. or had seen it before [17:30:59] when ic change the formula slightly. A new Image is created, seems only to affect older and rendered Images. [17:34:47] maybe cleaning up the math rendercache for de.wikibooks will do. [17:47:54] the hash algorithm did not change, i tested it with an old mediawiki at home, i get the same hash on wikimedia and at home. [17:48:51] for these formulas [17:53:32] why upgrading is lating (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20/Roadmap) [17:53:34] ? [17:54:49] Base: because stuff was broken [17:55:29] Base: jQuery was updated to 1.8, then regressions were discovered, then it was reverted back to 1.7 and new features introduces in wmf11 broke [17:56:03] but I think that somebody just merged a commit that updated jQuery back to 1.8 a few minutes ago [17:57:53] MatmaRex: I need not jQuery but correct prop=duplicatefiles of API... [17:58:31] !log reedy synchronized php-1.20wmf11 [17:58:40] Logged the message, Master [17:59:09] Base: i think that regular updating should resume shortly [17:59:24] (disclaimer: i'm just a volunteer MW developer) [17:59:35] (and what i just said is guesswork) [17:59:37] Reedy: ^ [18:00:26] :) [18:03:30] !log reedy synchronized php-1.20wmf10 [18:03:39] Logged the message, Master [18:04:12] Base: We're now deploying two changes that should fix the issues, then upgrading jQuery back to 1.8.1. If that fixes the problems I assume the deployment schedule will resume as usual [18:07:40] I'm gonna wait 10-15 minutes before doing anything further [18:29:06] hey, i'd like to sync-dir the E3 extension off-schedule for hackathon stuff. any objections? [18:31:02] ori-l: We're doing a wmf10/wmf11 upgrade deployment now-ish [18:31:07] ori-l: Ask Reedy for more info [18:31:41] ah, okay! i'll hang back. thanks for letting me know [18:31:46] ^ RoanKattouw [18:46:11] ori-l: I already sync'd it earlier... [18:46:37] Which reminds me, it's still deployment time [18:46:56] i think i merged a change afterwards [18:47:03] lol [18:47:15] * ori-l blushes. [18:47:17] !log reedy rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: enwiki back to 1.20wmf11 [18:47:26] Logged the message, Master [18:47:44] oh, wait, i think it's up to date [18:55:40] Further to yesterday, now I'm getting a warning that there has been an "Error while sending QUERY packet" in DatabaseMysql during unittests [18:55:44] Look familar to anyone? [18:57:45] !log reedy rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: Everything else over to 1.20wmf11 [18:57:53] Logged the message, Master [19:01:57] Okay, that particular problem seems to be resolved by restarting MySQL [19:02:05] But I'm still left with yesterday's, urgh. [19:02:59] so aaron's in SF right? [19:03:06] i think he lives around there... [19:03:27] is it just me, or are the watch notifications borked again/still? when trying to unwatch https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ortiz, i get Uncaught exception: TypeError: Cannot convert '$placeholder' to object (although the page is unwatched) [19:04:23] scratch that; not when unwatching, but when clickthing the star second time. [19:04:31] I lost a file --> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Pnina_Gary_-_1953_-_New_York.jpg [19:04:46] comes from --> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pnina_Gary_-_1953_-_New_York.jpg [19:05:20] any op to help? ^ [19:05:58] e.g apergos ? [19:06:49] we're in an ops meeting right now [19:06:54] matanya: known bugs afaik [19:07:00] matanya: but i cant find the bug no right now [19:07:11] me neither :( [19:07:20] thanks apergo.s [19:07:29] ahh, yes. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39221 [19:07:35] matanya: maybe that's what abartov was talking about? [19:08:01] reuploading seems to work if you need the file now [19:08:42] it is not the same MatmaRex [19:09:08] here I get 404, not Inconsistent [19:09:39] !b 39615 | matanya [19:09:39] matanya: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39615 [19:10:02] matanya: i think it's connected, no? [19:10:18] at least for some uploads [19:10:19] might be. jeremyb that is the one [19:10:21] first you get "inconsistent" when uploading, then 404 [19:11:53] well updated the bug [19:12:06] jeremyb: Yes he is [19:12:12] Jarry1250: what's up? [19:12:48] matanya: i see [19:13:12] Reedy: Still having to comment a line that causes a "my_wiki.unittest_user table not found" error, it's annoying because you're not getting it and neither's Jenkins, it would seem [19:13:47] Plus nothing on google, so not a generic phpunit error [19:14:39] Nothing major, just an noyying little thing [19:14:44] *an annoying [19:26:59] abartov: i think MatmaRex was having the same issue you reported earlier? [19:27:05] not sure, haven't seen it myself [19:28:08] jeremyb: note, i didnt have this issue personally, i was only relaying from somebody who had and didn't care about bugzilla [19:46:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=recentchanges&rcprop=title%7Cids%7Csizes%7Cflags%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Ctimestamp%7Cloginfo&rclimit=200&format=xml is broken now. seems rcprop does not support "loginfo" now? [19:47:09] Notice: FSFileBackend::doStoreInternal: copy() failed but returned true. in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf11/includes/filebackend/FSFileBackend.php [19:47:09] on line 218 [19:47:11] Those are amusing [19:47:51] RoanKattouw: ^^ [19:49:55] not quite understand Reedy... I'm new to the API. Is this a new change? or just a bug? [19:50:01] It's a bug [19:50:07] That should've been fixed a little while ago [19:51:22] I guess https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23530/ broke it [19:51:24] more [19:51:29] it looks to me just showing up a while ago... is there any action on this? [19:51:59] It will have "broken" an hour and 4 minutes ago [19:53:20] that explains my pager 1 hour ago. Thanks for confirmation Reedy. [19:53:39] do you know if this is going to be fixed soon? [19:54:10] Reedy: I submitted a fix for this like last week [19:54:21] Wait no you *merged* my fix [19:54:23] wtf [19:54:25] RoanKattouw: and it's merged to enwiki and it's still broken [19:54:36] /broken in a different way [19:55:20] Hah [19:55:55] Oh I see [19:56:07] I didn't read _recursive() throughly enough [19:57:38] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23575 [20:00:31] Thanks RoanKattouw for your fix [20:00:39] when this could be pushed out ? [20:31:42] Reedy: ---^^ [20:50:44] !log reedy synchronized php-1.20wmf11/extensions/MwEmbedSupport/ [20:50:53] Logged the message, Master [20:51:37] !log reedy synchronized php-1.20wmf11/extensions/TimedMediaHandler/ [20:51:46] Logged the message, Master [21:10:54] !log reedy synchronized php-1.20wmf11/includes/api/ApiQueryLogEvents.php [21:11:03] Logged the message, Master [21:13:17] !log On ms7: find /export/upload/math ! -user apache -exec /root/fixownership2 \{\} \; [21:13:27] Logged the message, Master [21:22:03] Reedy: i wrestled with importsources a bunch a couple months ago. I'm pretty certain that will work [21:22:27] I don't know why we have like w:pt and pt:W [21:22:47] i did once ask you about standardizing them ;P [21:24:26] !g Ibd6f1895e68c4f986c2 | Reedy [21:24:26] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,Ibd6f1895e68c4f986c2,n,z [21:25:44] Reedy: also, want to do gerrit 23286 ? [21:26:20] going afk shortly [21:31:28] This is returning an error page now, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=recentchanges&rcprop=title%7Cids%7Csizes%7Cflags%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Ctimestamp%7Cloginfo&rclimit=200&format=xml [21:31:34] is this expected? [21:31:39] Reedy: you have replies on gerrit [21:34:35] doesn't look very expected to me [21:35:33] bianjiang: can you file a bug on bugzilla.wikimedia.org and we'll see if we can figure out what's up [21:40:32] <^d> brion: I don't see an error :\ [21:41:02] ^d: it fell off [21:41:06] i saw an XML parse error [21:41:20] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=recentchanges&rcprop=title|ids|sizes|flags|user|comment|timestamp|loginfo&rclimit=2000&format=xml will still show it [21:41:31] <^d> Ah, indeed that does. [21:42:04] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40195 [21:45:36] bianjiang: thanks, I added a note about what looks like the offending bit of xml [21:46:18] what does "xmlfm" mean? with that as "format" seems it works [21:46:29] can i use that in API request? [21:47:04] !log reedy synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Subpagesortkey on ptwikibooks and enwikibooks' [21:47:12] Logged the message, Master [21:47:39] bianjiang: xmlfm = xml with HTML formatting [21:47:49] it's just meant to view in your browser for testing [21:48:00] if you decoded the HTML and put it in an XML parser that would still fail i imagine [21:48:07] !log aaron synchronized php-1.20wmf11/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php 'deployed 6a6a0427160e1493617789ce320020b21d0836dd' [21:48:16] Logged the message, Master [21:48:42] !log aaron synchronized php-1.20wmf11/includes/filebackend/FileBackendMultiWrite.php 'deployed 6a6a0427160e1493617789ce320020b21d0836dd' [21:48:51] Logged the message, Master [21:51:42] bianjiang: ok good, looks like fixes are on the way [21:52:45] just saw your update in the bug entry. and rclimit=200 did work on my side too. [21:53:10] could you tell me the link of your fix? [21:53:18] because then you're not going to get the "bad" row then [21:54:11] Those 2 commits are live though.. [21:54:24] I think Roans answer was XML sucks ;) [21:54:35] seems a new "bad" row comes into the response [21:54:52] hm darn [21:55:17] RoanKattouw: ^^^^ [21:56:55] brion: Yes, there's an XML parse error because we output <4::tags> [21:56:59] Which sucks [21:57:05] But that's the data we're getting :( [21:57:06] well we shouldn't do that :) [21:57:33] What, output data? :D [21:58:21] have 4::something in the data :P [22:05:35] Yeah srsly [22:05:39] But I don't know where it comes from [22:05:46] I *suspect* AbuseFilter but I have nothing to back that up [22:06:11] brion: When I heard about this bug on Monday I wrote "ApiFormatXml.php" on a piece of paper then stabbed that piece of paper with a knife. True story [22:06:34] is that a form of voodoo? [22:06:37] haha [22:10:45] Reedy, you there? shouldn't merging https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23287/ have allowed editing on the wiki? [22:10:56] main page still says The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Stewards. [22:11:17] Thehelpfulone: I doubt it has been synced yet [22:11:47] how often is it synced? [22:11:53] On demand [22:11:56] every time someone does it :P [22:11:58] just doing it now, incase it hasn't been done before [22:12:04] !log reedy synchronized closed.dblist [22:12:05] I can't remember [22:12:13] Logged the message, Master [22:12:21] Reedy: Worked :) [22:12:24] thanks [22:12:27] lol. [22:12:32] !log aaron synchronized wmf-config/filebackend.php 'Disabled directory operations on local-temp zones.' [22:12:34] Now everyone can vandalize, not only /me :D [22:12:38] now I just need someone to create me an account, hoo? [22:12:41] Logged the message, Master [22:12:55] Thehelpfulone: Sure [22:13:17] User: Thehelpfulone ?! [22:13:23] yes please ;) [22:22:03] brion, are you still working on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40195 ? [22:22:25] bianjiang: i'm not working on it, but roan might be i don't know [22:23:29] RoanKattouw ^^? [22:24:33] !log aaron synchronized wmf-config/filebackend.php 'Enabled auto-resyncing for file backends.' [22:24:42] Logged the message, Master [22:25:56] StevenW, so it looks like they merged that bug that means you can't create a user account if it already exists on SUL - I found that out the unfortunate way in that I can't get an account on any old SUL wikis (wikimania2010) wiki because of it. [22:26:06] hmm, hoo would it be possible to allow a steward to override that check? [22:26:20] like another tick box such as the one we have for antispoof? [22:26:42] Thehelpfulone: Sure, we could create a right for that which bypasses that check [22:27:22] anyone deploying right now? [22:27:27] That's will be needed desperately, if we merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16922 [22:27:27] Is that easy enough to do? [22:28:02] Thehelpfulone: It will take me some time, maybe, but not really much [22:28:10] those checks are pretty central AFAIR [22:28:18] ok great [22:29:09] Thehelpfulone: You could search bugzilla/ open a bug and assign me [22:29:47] though I would wait for the change mentioned above [22:35:01] hmm, actually it let me login now, don't know why though! [22:37:54] anyone deploying anything? [22:39:21] MaxSem: nothing in the deployment calendar except for yours. I'd say go for it [22:39:50] Famous last words [22:39:55] anyone else deploying right now that didn't put it on the calendar is doing it wrong [22:40:26] MaxSem: may want to shorten your window on the calendar, or cross it out when you are done, as well [22:40:34] sure [22:40:58] MaxSem: I talked with tomasz about this, we really need a better procedure for handlng deployments at hackathons [22:41:12] and not only for hackathons [22:41:17] I wasn't singling you out. it's a problem in general for these kinds of things [22:41:22] basically, everything out of schedule [22:41:27] yep [22:48:30] ' What's the current development/deployment model we use? Commit then flee!' Still my fav bz quip [22:55:19] apergos: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Metrics_9.4.12.theora.ogv/mid-Metrics_9.4.12.theora.ogv.jpg [22:57:25] Barack gets everywhere [23:00:23] [[Tech]]; Rjd0060; /* Two broken javascripts */ +com; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4123407&oldid=4121168&rcid=3525098 [23:01:03] apergos: Fixed [23:01:07] RoanKattouw: please leave a not on bug 39221 [23:01:10] *note [23:02:23] !log hashar synchronized docroot/bits/favicon [23:02:32] Logged the message, Master [23:02:40] thank you RoanKattouw! [23:03:06] !log hashar synchronized docroot/bits/favicon [23:03:12] stupid mw1 [23:03:15] Logged the message, Master [23:06:09] !log aaron synchronized php-1.20wmf11/extensions/timeline 'deployed f79a67ac344801acc57edbc95158bf5ecc87481b' [23:06:18] Logged the message, Master [23:06:32] !log hashar synchronized docroot/checkuser/favicon.ico [23:06:41] Logged the message, Master [23:06:44] !log hashar synchronized docroot/outreach/favicon.ico [23:06:53] Logged the message, Master [23:06:55] !log hashar synchronized docroot/steward/favicon.ico [23:07:05] Logged the message, Master [23:07:07] !log hashar synchronized docroot/strategy/favicon.ico [23:07:17] Logged the message, Master [23:08:10] !log hashar synchronized docroot/strategyapps/favicon.ico [23:08:19] Logged the message, Master [23:09:22] !log hashar synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'migrate favicons from upload to bits' [23:09:31] Logged the message, Master [23:13:27] snitch: Taking care [23:19:48] snitch: Wfm [23:22:10] [[Tech]]; Hoo man; /* Two broken javascripts */ re; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4123541&oldid=4123407&rcid=3525214 [23:22:50] * hoo just apparently talked to a bot :P [23:38:31] gn8 folks [23:38:38] !log maxsem Started syncing Wikimedia installation... : WLM app banner - MF, WikimediaMessages and config [23:38:48] Logged the message, Master [23:49:36] awjr: Fatal error: Call to undefined method ExtMobileFrontend::getNotice() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf11/extensions/MobileFrontend/skins/SkinMobile [23:49:37] Base.php on line 50 [23:50:39] Reedy perhaps because scap is not finished? [23:50:52] Possibly... [23:51:00] There's loads of them in the apache logs [23:51:04] saw no problems on testwiki [23:51:09] hmm [23:51:38] this latency is killing me [23:51:52] grr [23:51:57] Reedy: do you know when they started? [23:52:09] !log reedy synchronized php-1.20wmf11/extensions/MobileFrontend/ [23:52:18] Logged the message, Master [23:54:12] there's 35 in the last 1000 lines of the apache log [23:54:12] let's see if that quietens it down.. [23:54:12] there's 37 in the last 1000 lines of the apache log [23:54:42] Reedy: where can i see the log? [23:55:36] 23:39:53 [23:55:36] /home/wikipedia/syslog/apache.log on fenari still [23:55:46] oh yeah thnx [23:56:46] Seems to have stopped after me syncing that dir.. [23:56:46] bleugh