[00:01:27] pester tim, he added it to the dsh group [01:48:15] about to do one last scap per a request from Erik [01:55:30] !log kaldari Started syncing Wikimedia installation... : [01:55:41] Logged the message, Master [02:08:29] !log kaldari Finished syncing Wikimedia installation... : [02:08:39] Logged the message, Master [02:26:11] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf10) at Fri Aug 24 02:26:10 UTC 2012 [02:26:21] Logged the message, Master [02:47:46] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf9) at Fri Aug 24 02:47:46 UTC 2012 [02:47:57] Logged the message, Master [03:13:50] TimStarling: do you have a moment to take a look at this? http://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:TicTacToe [03:14:15] seems to behave well in debugger, but not when invoked from wikitext [03:28:55] ah, i figured it out! i was using ipairs [03:29:01] didn't see the docs stipulating it can't be used [04:50:09] ori-l nice work [06:13:43] apergos: on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 , do dumps work now? [06:13:46] (With LQT) [06:14:03] yes, roan squashed that bug eventually [06:14:17] is there any possibility to recover more recent activity on the wiki with a newer dump [06:14:25] however I can't run a dump without the wikiname being in dblists [06:14:48] but the DB is still there isn't it? [06:14:54] let me cecck [06:14:56] check [06:15:18] is it complex to restore the wiki (temporarily if need be) and dump it? [06:20:03] yes the database still exists [06:20:18] I guess I'd want a checkin with roan or tim on that [06:20:30] (putting it back in dblist for a while, but read only) [06:20:50] tbh we close wikis without them being editable, and don't necessarily remove them from the list so that's another possibility [06:20:57] yes [06:20:59] yoou might bring that up on the bug [06:21:25] however probably Tim thought LQT was too broken even for that I guess [06:21:51] well there are other projects with lqt enabled thaat are live today [06:21:53] so... [06:21:56] time to revisit [06:21:58] but it's kept on "life support" for translatewiki.net so... [06:22:01] that too :) [06:22:32] and frankly having it read only so people can read the discussions is a lot more friendly than "here, download this xml file and grep through it" [06:24:37] apergos: my idea was to import it on mediawiki.org, I have a plan for that [06:25:07] not with lqt enabled, I would not go for that at all [06:25:33] anyways, bring it up in the bug report and/or wikitech-l I guess and see what folks want to do with the content [06:27:35] what do you mean not with lqt enabled, mw.o already uses it [06:27:47] it's mainly the [[Feedback]] page which needs import [06:29:38] we have lqt over there? ah bummer [06:48:43] apergos: yes, not that easy to get rid of it :p [07:14:25] Nemo_bis: Instead of all this energy people put into hating on it, if they did the same but on improving the little bugs in it, it would be such a wonderful system [07:16:36] p858snake|l: I don't see much energy put in hating it [07:16:56] I for one spend a lot of energy in debugging it and using it [07:17:26] Nemo_bis: Basically whener someone says something negative about it, everyone else joins in [07:17:28] And translatewiki.net staff spend quite a lot of energy in keeping it functional in master [07:17:38] p858snake|l: of course, it's a nightmare [07:17:48] but still sometimes a nightmare which is worth it [07:18:08] there is a few people that won't even put in bug reports, meaning things can't get fixed unless someone else finds it [07:18:15] I'm quite happy of the system at https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support/Open_requests for instance despite everything [07:18:40] I spent countless hours debugging LQt but it's mostly a useless exercise [07:19:16] I've not seen anyone fixing or seriously looking at any LQT bug in years, and LQT will be rewritten, so... [07:19:35] the major problem with it atm, from my understanding is its wikitex backend and not db based [07:19:49] Nemo_bis: the rewrite got shelved from my understanding [07:20:18] p858snake|l: not completely [07:20:28] while fixing LQT 2.0 is completely out of question [07:20:39] neither will happen any time soon I think [07:22:15] Hm, I'm following 69 LQT bugs. I would have said 150 at least out of the 250 open ones [07:25:35] 22 bugs fixed in last year https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=141045&resolution=FIXED&chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfield=resolution&chfieldfrom=2011-08-23&chfieldvalue=fixed&component=LiquidThreads&product=MediaWiki%20extensions [07:26:15] and 57 more filed and not fixed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=141047&resolution=---&resolution=WONTFIX&resolution=LATER&chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfieldfrom=2011-08-23&component=LiquidThreads&product=MediaWiki%20extensions [07:26:43] p858snake|l: have you seen the discussion at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Flow ? [07:27:04] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Talk:Flow/LiquidThreads?/reply_(16) [07:27:50] and " probably the best bang for the buck on LQT improvements would be after the new Visual Editor is integrated in MediaWiki. That won't happen until sometime in 2013 anyway." [07:34:37] Nemo_bis: Well if that doesn't get turned into some global monostritiy that smaller communities/non wmf wikis can't use, it will just replace lqt [07:36:44] p858snake|l: "that" what? [08:01:56] hello, could someone please set up an External Link Captcha on the scrubunto wiki? [08:01:56] ...see http://scribunto.wmflabs.org/index.php/Special:RecentChanges [15:51:04] hi [15:52:28] we need some help in it.wikt. we asked for a flood flag in bugzilla ~10days ago and we really need it, as the only active crat is on vacation and we need to delete several hunderds of pages [15:52:52] the change was already done, only code review is needed [15:56:25] sEdivad: momento sbagliato [15:56:37] sEdivad: ma che pagine dovete cancellare poi? [15:56:52] talk ip scadute Nemo_bis [15:57:15] poi ci sono tutta una serie di manutenzioni seriali varie [15:57:17] sEdivad: ma non cancellatele [15:57:38] dici di usare il benveip? [15:57:43] massí [15:57:49] ti posso fare io l'elenco [15:58:39] bene :) [15:58:49] sEdivad: hai un bot? [15:58:55] s� [16:00:29] sEdivad: usate i template cogli stessi nomi? https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Elenchi_generati_offline/Discussioni_utenti_anonimi [16:01:22] un attimo che vedo [16:01:37] abbiamo un po' di templ sparsi qua e l� :D [16:02:17] mannò, davvero [16:02:20] strano per it.wikt [16:02:24] :) [16:02:37] sono solo 1359 [16:05:14] pare che non esista n� IPCondiviso n� BenvenutoIP [16:05:52] sEdivad: poco male, importa il benvenutoIP [16:06:06] l'IPcondiviso non ha equivalenti? [16:06:17] pare di no [16:06:20] bene [16:08:41] sEdivad: https://toolserver.org/~nemobis/tmp/itwikt_discussioniIP.txt [16:08:52] un po' bruttino ma ti dovrebbe andar bene [16:08:59] * Nemo_bis non è bravo come incola o mauro [16:09:54] ah, ovviamente non pesca ancora gli IPv6, ma sono talmente pochi [16:10:24] mai visti su wikt ipv6, quindi... [16:10:29] grazie [16:14:42] sEdivad: comunque io non starei a impazzire per il flood [16:15:20] quelle due volte per decade che ne avete bisogno, basta chiedere su #wikimedia-stewards di dare 'bot' a un utente e poi toglierlo, ci vuole molto meno [16:15:47] � che abbiamo da lungo tempo diverse manutenzioni da fare, cmq grazie per il consiglio [16:16:13] Wim_b manca da un giorno :p [16:16:55] � da un po' che non lo vedo Nemo_bis [16:17:06] giuro [16:17:36] boh, mi aveva accennato che era in vacanza [16:17:49] https://it.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=celere&diff=prev&oldid=1324682 [16:17:57] ^ un lemma pertinente, persino [16:18:01] ogni tanto entra ma dall'iphone tipo [16:18:12] comunque, afk [16:18:21] ciao [17:21:43] @replag [17:21:44] jimmyxu: No replag currently. See also "replag all". [17:21:54] wrong chan :( [17:23:21] banned [17:36:37] There is some several problems with editign [17:39:34] ollifin: could you be more specific? [17:41:49] @sumanah I think the issues have fixed now [17:41:54] great! [19:01:43] !log Restarted logmsgbot, was broken again [19:01:53] Logged the message, Master [19:01:54] !log (That was me) [19:02:03] Logged the message, Mr. Obvious [19:46:47] Ryan_Lane: mutante: hey, got a moment? I'm trying to figure out who would be good people to ask for review on open operations/mediawiki-config Gerrit patchsets [19:47:27] should I use the ops-reviewers group? [19:47:51] or is the mediawiki-config repo an exception in some way? [19:48:06] Yes, it's somewhat of an exception [19:48:14] Platform people are more qualified to review that stuff than ops people [19:48:27] In practice Reedy is pretty much the only reviewer for that repo AIUI [19:49:22] RoanKattouw: is he the only person who *can* or the only person who *does*? [19:51:15] i agree it's more a platform people thing. maybe Hashar too [19:52:06] mutante: got it. in that case feel free to remove yourself as reviewer on the few patchsets where I just added you..... https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:operations/mediawiki-config,n,z has at least 13 patchsets, dating back to mid-July, that are at neutral or +1 [19:52:09] the one i just did was a obvious typo, so i just did it, but the more serious ones i would probably ask him [19:52:49] ok [19:53:26] mutante: honestly https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/18124/ looks very simple too [19:53:34] in case you want to look at that, looks like a typo basically [19:55:01] looked at the bug, yeah, underscore vs. spaces, i can do that [19:56:57] cool [19:57:47] !log dzahn synchronized ./wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php [19:57:57] Logged the message, Master [19:59:05] gracias, mutante [19:59:37] de nada [20:04:23] sumanah: nobody in #wikipedia-bs though to tell [20:10:10] !log dzahn synchronized ./wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php [20:10:21] Logged the message, Master [21:49:52] xxtjaxx_: hello, do you have a minute for a query? [21:52:59] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/1943._%D0%A2%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B8_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8_%D0%B2_%D0%BC.%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BE_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1% [21:53:01] 86%D1%96%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%86%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D1%96%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%86%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%83%D1%82%D1%83.jpg/48px-1943._%D0%A2%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B8_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0% [21:53:03] B8%D0%BC%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8_%D0%B2_%D0%BC.%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BE_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%86%D1%96%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%86%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D1%96%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%86%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%83%D1%82%D1%83.jpg [21:53:14] I find something sorter [21:53:19] shorter* [21:53:40] * Damianz frowns [21:54:07] BTW, the error message is "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination" [21:54:39] [[File:1943. Трупи заживо спалених німецькими окупантами в м.Сталіно науковців Донецького Індустріального Інституту.jpg]] [22:07:23] Dispenser: do you have a precise timestamp when you got the failure? or a rough one? [22:08:16] no [22:08:44] hm. that's going to be hard to find then in the logs. [22:09:03] You could try another thumbnail size [22:19:07] maplebed: I've found a few others [22:20:45] Dispenser: gimme a link and a timestamp and I'll dig a bit. [22:24:37] maplebed: http://p.defau.lt/?PT7yryy9XlsSqxFfMtu5JA [22:25:36] hm. none in an easy copy/pastable latin script? by link I was hoping for a clickable URL (the previous one was encoded so long IRC split it up) [22:25:54] it's just much easier to dig through logs for the standard ascii charset than it is unicode. [22:26:42] wiki pages or thumbnail urls [22:26:49] gn8 folks [22:30:04] ah, I got myself an example. [22:31:10] AaronSchulz: could you come look at this for me for a sec? [22:32:43] Dispenser: I'd still love it if you could find an example that's a latin script with a shorter name. Please ping me if you find one. If you don't, I'll keep looking at this. [22:41:32] So using last modified headers, the software broke sometime after 02 May 2012 [22:47:58] Interesting. [22:48:25] AaronSchulz: http://bit.ly/PNIbiL has two thumbs in the container: 120px and 75px. [22:49:23] maplebed: using var_dump(), the encoded length for that file is 530 [22:49:27] the original filename is 220 chars [22:49:41] 75px is 450 chars [22:51:58] for the one you just gave, it's 628 [22:52:18] when I double-encode it (as seen in the log) it's 1054. [22:52:35] yeah, well, don't double encode ;) [22:52:44] I should tell you that! [22:52:53] ;) [22:53:21] the double-encoded GET has a user-agent of cloudfiles... [22:54:37] it would also be nice if thumbnails were just name.ext/params [22:57:03] yes, it really would.