[00:09:06] <Brooke>	 pbx2: There are a few Bugzilla admins lurking in here.
[00:09:26] <Brooke>	 Reedy, ^demon|away, Krinkle|detached, et al.
[00:12:09] <pbx2>	 Reedy , ^demon|away , Krinkle|detached , anyone online? plz
[00:13:53] <pbx2>	 Brooke, no one seems online? any others?
[00:14:03] <Brooke>	 pbx2: Be patient.
[00:14:09] <Brooke>	 pbx2: What's your username on Bugzilla?
[00:15:06] <logmsgbot>	 !log tstarling synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php  'setting $wgCategoryCollation=uca-default on ptwiki'
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[00:16:34] <pbx2>	 I am trying to delete myself from Google. Posting my username here would be counterintuitive
[00:17:25] <robla>	 pbx2: send me a pm, and I'll see what I can do
[00:18:51] <Brooke>	 Hi robla.
[00:18:58] <robla>	 howdy
[00:19:54] <TimStarling>	 !log running updateCollation.php for ptwiki in a screen on hume
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[00:36:54] <AaronSchulz>	 binasher: not all
[00:37:37] <AaronSchulz>	 the "recursive" update are from runners, which I suppose is the bulk of them
[02:27:55] <logmsgbot>	 !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf9) at Wed Aug 22 02:27:55 UTC 2012
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[05:07:20] <TimStarling>	 !log on ms7, running a script to remerge the split math directories back into /mnt/upload6/math, using rsync
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[05:29:24] <logmsgbot>	 !log tstarling synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php  'enabling Scribunto on mediawiki.org'
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[05:49:12] <logmsgbot>	 !log asher synchronized wmf-config/db.php  'setting s1 to read-only, switching master to db63'
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[11:51:55] <liangent>	 why is jp.wikipedia.org jawiki, any historical reasons?
[11:55:21] <closedmouth>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-1
[11:55:58] <Krenair>	 that's not the point, closedmouth 
[11:56:02] <Krenair>	 jp != ja
[11:56:16] <closedmouth>	 what?
[12:15:26] <Platonides>	 http://jp.wikipedia.org/ is just a redirect to http://ja.wikipedia.org/
[12:16:41] <Platonides>	 there's no jp ISO-639-1
[12:22:39] <Krenair>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix shows jp
[12:24:19] <Krenair>	 and epo, dk, cz, minnan, zh-cfr
[12:25:00] <Krenair>	 all of the wikipedias (and probably all other projects as well, didn't check) in those languages redirect
[12:45:56] <closedmouth>	 i guess i didn't understand the question
[16:00:47] <Nemo_bis>	 Right now: Localisation and internationalisation bug triage at #mediawiki-i18n ( http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/BugTriage-i18n-2012-08 )
[16:33:10] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Restart bugzilla?
[16:33:19] * jeblad_WMDE  giggles

[16:33:38] <jeblad_WMDE>	 It wasn't me!
[16:33:42] <jeblad_WMDE>	 :D
[16:34:41] <aude>	 jeblad_WMDE: please look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/19999/ :)
[16:35:08] <Nikerabbit>	 we are having bug triage atm, would be nice get bugzilla back asap
[16:35:26] <jeblad_WMDE>	 I think the clearer messages goes from bad to worse, but thats just me
[16:36:24] <aude>	 jeblad_WMDE: it's greek to me :o
[16:36:52] <Nikerabbit>	 bugzilla up again, thanks
[16:36:58] <aude>	 yay! :)
[16:37:04] <jeblad_WMDE>	 næ, its completely clear for a norwegian
[16:37:04] * apergos  eyes au de

[16:37:13] <aude>	 heh
[16:37:55] <aude>	 anyone understand "A string describing how to proceed was not recognized" as an error message?
[16:38:16] * aude  confused

[16:49:19] <Jarry1250>	 aude: A string (which was supposed to describe how to proceed) was not recognised
[16:49:34] <Jarry1250>	 (bit late!)
[16:50:22] <aude>	 what do folks think about localizing api error messages generally?
[16:50:55] <aude>	 they seem a bit technical and more difficult to translate, although it's nice to get (even api messages) in one's own language
[16:51:30] <hoo>	 aude: On one hand, many gadgets throw them to users (including mine) on error
[16:52:00] <aude>	 hoo: translated? or not?
[16:52:10] <hoo>	 aude: Just what the API give as error
[16:52:12] <hoo>	 eg. on edit
[16:52:18] <aude>	 ah, okay
[16:52:19] <hoo>	 so atm not localized
[16:53:08] <hoo>	 The troubles are, that many users edit foreign wikis using the API, so they wont get them and if users send them in error reports :/
[16:53:14] <^demon>	 They should remain in english by default for all cases if localizing them became possible.
[16:53:35] <^demon>	 You'd need a new parameter to return localized errors.
[16:53:37] <hoo>	 ^demon: Yes... maybe both could be sent
[16:53:41] <hoo>	 Exactly
[16:56:16] <Nikerabbit>	 jeblad_WMDE: is this your bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37528 ?
[16:56:30] <aude>	 ^demon: interesting
[16:57:08] <aude>	 Nikerabbit: sounds like it
[16:57:27] <Nikerabbit>	 then he should be in #mediawiki-i18n where the bug is being triaged
[16:58:29] * aude  shall throw stuff at jeblad_WMDE