[00:24:37] tstarling cleared profiling data [02:25:40] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf5) at Thu Jun 21 02:25:40 UTC 2012 [02:25:49] Logged the message, Master [04:40:51] !log catrope synchronized php-1.20wmf5/extensions/LastModified/modules/lastmodified.js [04:40:58] Logged the message, Master [04:41:03] ori-l: --^^ [04:41:08] !log catrope synchronized php-1.20wmf4/extensions/LastModified/modules/lastmodified.js [04:41:13] Logged the message, Master [04:41:26] So the fix is live, now putting in Gerrit [04:54:47] RoanKattouw: cool, thanks [05:26:39] * Aaron|home wonders were Roan is [05:26:54] He's here in the office. [05:26:59] really? [05:27:02] Need him? [05:27:06] Yeah. All of us are. [05:27:07] oh god [05:27:16] well, not terribly surprised [05:27:24] who is supplying the red bull? [05:27:41] None yet. [05:44:59] Hello, some people from France reports trouble reaching Wikipedia [14:07:58] wikis are very slow, any known issue? [14:08:41] yup [14:08:48] ops are just noticing that also [14:10:00] noo [14:10:19] damnit... same issues as yesterday! >:( [14:15:37] I really just changed the topic in both wikipedia and wikipedia-en [14:15:45] Tell me we're not being spotty again? [14:16:54] seems to be normal now [14:23:20] is there some kind of auto-throttle on the api access ? [14:27:02] no [14:27:14] maxlag can be used for that purpose [14:27:46] cause i m querying file description via my bot on commons [14:28:01] and i m getting an increase in time with larger category [14:28:39] so i am wondering if it is either a throttle or some kind of issue with the tool [14:30:39] what requests are you making? [14:30:53] queries against larger categories, purely by nature will be slower as there's more stuff to load [14:30:57] categorymembers [14:31:30] i m trying to get a 220 files category for now [14:33:09] Reedy: http://pastebin.com/rthU9uTT the stats i m getting [14:33:44] * esby gonna examine the tool code just in case [14:34:56] * esby doing a profiling ... [15:06:38] Reedy: solved the issue, was in the tool apparently [15:26:53] Reedy: an easy review for you please :) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/12380/ [17:49:02] Etherpad server is acting up. [17:50:06] siebrand: may want to repeat with actual problems/data in wikimedia-operations [17:51:36] LeslieCarr: I think our team pad may have found some ether pad limit, as other pads do still seem to work. [17:53:41] etherpad has a limit? [17:53:43] LeslieCarr: we're using it for daily meetings, and we've had one broken before. [17:53:50] yep [17:53:59] I abuse etherpad to hell at work and never hit a limit lol [17:54:01] if you make it over 1500 lines, stuff will go funky [17:54:12] so I archive regularly to another pad. [17:54:16] ah yes, that will [17:54:20] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/l10n-team is broken [17:54:26] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/l10n-team2 is now broken, too. [17:54:28] Can you even follow a 1500 page etherpad? [17:54:32] So I guess we'll need http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/l10n-team3 [17:54:33] *lines [17:54:34] are you guys using etherpad as a actually storage device ? [17:54:40] It's notes of daily and weekly team meetings. [17:54:50] You guys must talk a lot [17:54:53] Just for transparency and to check back on. [17:54:53] those should be divided, no? [17:54:54] if you need that information you need to archive it to a wiki [17:54:56] at least weekly [17:55:03] etherpad is a temporary storage solution [17:55:08] it is not a redundant service [17:55:23] yup [17:55:42] We have a shitload of ether pads: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/l10n-etherpads [17:55:49] we're not even sure how well any pads will survive a transition to etherpad-lite [17:56:02] And when is that planned? [17:56:03] siebrand: if you need the information to be saved, you need to move it to a wiki [17:56:08] there should be some archiving tool for etherpads though. [17:56:19] whenever the volunteers get it working in labs [17:56:32] Totally could make an etherpad to wiki script [17:56:45] haha Damianz i was just typing that it would be great to have that [17:56:59] lol [17:57:09] what copy-paste? [17:57:18] etherpads don't have markups [17:57:28] so it would be a pretty straight-forward script, no? [17:57:45] It basically has an api all ready so download -> upload but you'd loose notations as to who was speaking... could probably look at the colour are make it ~~~'d [17:57:49] however at this moment siebrand you are using a very unredundant system, that if it fails will be a slow recovery (very manual rebuild). actual important data should be on a redundant system with many failovers (aka, wiki) [17:58:06] Wiki is redundant? :D [17:58:22] so is etherpad to an extent, it saves timeline. [17:59:00] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/ep/pad/view/l10n-etherpads/latest [17:59:18] it's a hell of a lot more redundant than etherpad … we have database slaving, load balanced front ends, etc, etc [18:00:15] I guess, the infrastructure is quite different. [18:36:19] !log catrope synchronized php-1.20wmf5/resources/mediawiki.page/mediawiki.page.watch.ajax.js 'Core patches for VisualEditor deploy' [18:36:25] Logged the message, Master [18:36:31] !log catrope synchronized php-1.20wmf5/resources/Resources.php 'Core patches for VisualEditor deploy' [18:36:36] Logged the message, Master [18:36:44] !log catrope synchronized php-1.20wmf5/includes/OutputPage.php 'Core patches for VisualEditor deploy' [18:36:49] Logged the message, Master [18:44:11] mutante: help re Labs. I went to create an account via https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin/signup and it's now missing the email field [18:45:08] mutante: this seems like a bad thing and unintended? ssmollett ^ maybe you can help fix? [18:46:37] Never mind. I logged out and logged back in and now that field has reappeared. Mystery! 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