[01:19:46] hi all [01:20:08] was wondering if i could post an error that i am seeing on mediawiki.org [01:20:14] and if this is the right place [01:21:44] What's the error that you saw? [01:21:48] And where did you see it? [01:23:20] @RoanKattouw this is the error [01:23:20] PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf5/includes/SkinTemplate.php line 122: Class 'MonoBookTemplate' not found [01:23:44] Whooooaaah [01:23:46] That's bad [01:23:51] some context: this happens only when i am logged in as tejas81 across wikipedia properties. does not happen in incognito [01:24:05] so it is using my custom skin and screwing up (i think) [01:24:14] What's your custom skin? Monobook? [01:24:28] the page i am seeing it on is: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles [01:24:34] i dont see it on wikipedia [01:24:44] My custom skin is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tejas81/myskin.css [01:24:50] Hmm, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles?useskin=monobook works for me [01:24:53] You're using myskin? [01:25:04] Reproduced: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles?useskin=myskin [01:25:34] yes myskin [01:27:26] OK I found the cause [01:27:34] Now figuring out what/who/when it was broken [01:27:56] cool ... so this is the right place :) [01:28:34] Got it [01:28:49] commit 0ec77e2b3196b931befedd1fb3605e4e6695c98d [01:28:51] Author: Antoine Musso [01:28:52] Date: Tue May 29 14:05:03 2012 +0200 [01:28:55] (bug 37194) remove obsoletes *.deps.php [01:29:06] Those "obsolete" things make MySkin work [01:29:23] I think I can fix this by registering MonoBookTemplate in the AutoLoader [01:37:11] maybe it should be reverted first :) [01:39:00] Yeah [01:39:05] I'm gonna revert hashar's change in production [01:39:14] And submit a proper fix to master [01:39:52] thanks roan [01:43:05] OK https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11585 fixes this in master [01:51:46] tejas81: Alright I've got a revert queued up for review ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11586/ ) but we're all going home here (it's 7pm) so it'll be deployed tomorrow [01:52:08] tejas81: A workaround you can use is go to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Preferences?useskin=monobook and change your skin to something that's not myskin [02:06:03] no worries, thanks for looking into it [02:26:17] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf5) at Fri Jun 15 02:26:17 UTC 2012 [02:26:27] Logged the message, Master [02:48:46] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf4) at Fri Jun 15 02:48:46 UTC 2012 [02:48:51] Logged the message, Master [06:26:15] _sj_ :) [06:26:20] What brings you here? [06:35:09] internal server error? [06:36:52] http://scribunto.wmflabs.org/ [06:36:56] down? [06:37:22] shizhao: no [07:26:05] shizhao: there are some dns troubles right now [09:21:02] Thehelpfulone: ping [09:37:55] Ryan_Lane: you around? [09:38:01] yes [09:39:14] Ryan_Lane: I am trying to improve some pages on wikitech, what exactly decomissioned server is? what OS are running Browne, Bleuenn and Biruni? [09:39:23] ignore those [09:39:31] that's the kind of stuff that'll be deleted [09:39:41] aha [09:39:44] a decomissioned server is one that no longer exists [09:39:48] but it say these servers are online [09:39:52] so they aren't [09:40:03] all of our server documentation on wikitech is likely wrong [09:40:09] hm [09:40:17] we use racktables [09:40:29] is there any page where I could retrieve a proper information [09:40:34] nope [09:40:44] even nagios doesn't containt proper OS versions? [09:40:47] contain [09:40:49] correct [09:40:52] hm [09:40:59] nothing does, as far as I know [09:41:03] heh [09:41:54] but Browne is not decomissioned [09:42:09] but it has unknown status and contains no information about OS and such [09:43:03] Ryan_Lane: afaik Krinkle fixed all the server documentation on wt not long ago [09:43:16] or at least made pages for the ones that didn't have it and fixed those [09:43:33] I am away for a while, will be back in bit more than 2hours (2pm gmt+2) [09:43:45] p858snake|l: there are still many servers with red links, I was going to create these [09:43:49] petan: again, assume all the server docs are wrong [09:43:55] ok [09:44:07] Ryan_Lane: apaches are running all same sw, right? [09:44:14] ubuntu 10.04 as OS? [09:44:15] don't update them either :) [09:44:19] why not... [09:44:21] we're going to delete them, most likely [09:44:25] apaches? [09:44:29] they will never stay up to date [09:44:33] petan: if it has anything other than Ubuntu for the server, its old [09:44:55] Ryan_Lane: but wouldn't it be useful to have any documentation? [09:45:01] most of the server pages don't really need the information about what they run (os, services etc) wise [09:45:03] probably [09:45:09] but we use racktables for thi [09:45:10] *this [09:45:14] only the major stuff probably should get doc'ed [09:45:20] so, we're not going to do it in two places [09:45:22] what is rackatbles? [09:45:27] rack tables [09:45:34] it's a system meant for tracking rackspace and servers [09:45:37] it sucks [09:45:40] heh [09:45:40] fancy stuff designed for this :p [09:45:42] Ryan_Lane: if the documentation is known to be wrong, perhaps it should be deleted? [09:45:42] but it's better than editing a wiki [09:45:55] I did just mention we'll likely delete it ;) [09:46:04] ok I will create a template for that [09:46:26] likely we'll just not move it in the merge of it and labsconsole [09:46:27] telling something like "This page is probably outdated and may not contain correct information" [09:46:50] Ryan_Lane: some guys at the KIT set up semantic mediawiki for tracking servers etc, including automatic live updates from audit software. [09:46:53] pretty neat project [09:46:53] Ryan_Lane: are racktables public? [09:47:16] petan: no, it can't easily be made public [09:47:17] don't know if it's still alive, but they were using it in produzction, to manage the university's data center [09:47:26] Daniel_WMDE_: probably based on the stuff that I did [09:47:44] I used SMW for this at my last job [09:47:51] I have all the templates added to labsconsole [09:48:03] meh, so there is actually no information about current servers and prod cluster [09:48:04] it does sound like a good idea :) [09:48:15] petan: not for public view, no [09:48:28] Ryan_Lane: this was two years ago. quite passible that it was based on what you did :) [09:48:35] * Ryan_Lane nods [09:49:15] http://ryandlane.com/blog/2010/03/29/helpdesk-system-and-datacenter-inventory-semantic-mediawiki-prototypes-added-to-my-prototype-wiki/ [09:49:15] ugh [09:49:20] it seems my blog has issues with mobile [09:49:30] fucking facebook plugin [09:56:19] jeremyb: you here? [10:04:25] p858snake|l: so there are no servers running fedora? [10:04:33] aha [10:04:42] need to check with Ryan_Lane but afaik no [10:06:53] none [10:56:30] could it be that the flavicon is interchanged between siwiki http://si.wikipedia.org and siwiktionary http://si.wiktionary.org ? [10:57:27] favicon [11:04:40] i think it just a wrong key in InitialiseSettings.php, isn't it? siwiki must be simply changed to siwiktionary on wgFavicon [11:42:15] bits seems to be very slow so me at the moment [11:42:26] so → for [11:43:49] Ryan_Lane: you have sooo many privacy breaches on your blog! Facebook, digg, google, linkedin, twitter … http://imgur.com/o3PnH :-] [11:45:18] non-responding for ipv4 and ipv6 [11:49:33] Either it's just me, but I can't access wikipedia and commons through both, http and https from Europe, or at least the stylesheets are missing. [11:49:46] outage [11:50:15] https://secure.wikimedia.org works [11:51:05] Hi. I report slowdowns on fr.wiki and the pages are displayed correctly :( [11:51:27] Merlissimo: can you create a ticket please [11:55:48] http://wikistatus.ezyang.com/ switched now to a read status of "unbearable slow" [11:57:38] that is being worked on as I understand it :-] [11:58:11] salut hashar :) [11:58:19] du 44 [11:58:50] hashar: du 94, pas 44 ^^ [11:59:15] je suis du 44 [11:59:17] that is why [11:59:31] ok ^^ [12:01:49] French's Wikipedia rows ! Why ? [12:02:50] Superjuju10: C'est revenu chez moi… [12:03:05] pareil ! :) [12:03:09] yihaa [12:03:29] Idem, comme quoi les réclamations sur ce channel c'est une bonne idée :) [12:24:55] Thehelpfulone: ping [13:56:04] petan: back for ~5 mins [13:56:42] jeremyb: just go listening to music instead of staying in front of a screen ;-D [13:57:02] hashar: doesn't start until tomorrow ;P [13:57:09] hashar: also, didn't leave yet [13:57:22] will leave in ~1 hr i guess [13:57:27] but have to do stuff before then [13:59:04] nvm then [13:59:09] 5 min is not enough heh [13:59:25] petan: what is it? [13:59:27] hashar: /msg [13:59:52] jeremyb: I wanted to update some stuff on wikitech and you seem to have some knowledge of servers + you are willing to answer I guess [14:00:12] some categorizations and so, making stuff easier to navigate and more clear [14:00:46] petan: well ask away or send a mail. i just might not answer until about tuesday [14:01:08] ok I will wait [14:01:13] it's gonna take a lot of time [14:09:18] !log hashar synchronized tests [14:09:23] Logged the message, Master [14:15:27] @infobot-ignore+ log [14:15:27] petan: Unknown identifier (log) [14:15:27] Item log is already in list [14:15:31] yay [14:21:50] !log hashar synchronized phpunit.xml [14:21:55] Logged the message, Master [14:32:36] !log hashar synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php '(bug 34866) Change wgLanguageCode of several wikis to be renamed' [14:32:41] Logged the message, Master [18:08:24] petan: okay I'm back, I've read scrollback, it appears you're working on wikitech? Is there a page somewhere of all the tasks you have planned? [19:18:43] !log aaron synchronized php-1.20wmf5 'deployed 2755f255e45b53a083207d69c3e2d9fca62a3a1c' [19:18:48] Logged the message, Master [19:28:26] binasher: I hate how we have triggers/foreign keys/different columns for IPs and such for PG [19:28:49] if we used it similar to how we use mysql, it wouldn't break nearly as often [19:29:01] AaronSchulz: yeah, i don't think the solution to that ticket is to change the mysql schema [19:29:14] * AaronSchulz wonders why everything sucks so much sometimes [19:29:42] AaronSchulz: ^^ that's why i like you [19:40:48] binasher: btw, the pecl client should be fixed now [19:41:06] though Tim implied he planned on not using the persistent mode anyway [21:15:21] ping apergos [21:16:04] it's a little lat (after midnight) [21:16:07] *late [21:18:02] er Platonides [21:18:09] (too sleepy to pong properly) [21:18:53] oh, it's no hurry [21:19:04] ok [21:19:15] just wanted to ask you about the usages of WikiError::isError at backupTextPass.inc [21:19:22] but you can look at it tomorrow [21:19:37] monday :-) [21:19:38] tomorrow is saturday! [21:19:48] ok, Monday then :) [21:20:15] ok. are you in a european timezone? if so feel free to ping me sometime in the morning [21:20:22] my morning that is [21:20:36] I am [21:20:43] you are in GMT+3 I guess [21:22:21] yes [21:22:39] if you ping when I'm not around yet I'll see it when I am, all good there [21:22:55] there too [21:23:15] depending on things sunday could be a very short night or a very long one [22:31:06] gn8 folks [23:23:04] 500 Internal Server Error [23:23:06] nginx/0.7.65 [23:23:07] on meta-wiki [23:24:23] :O [23:24:28] https I assume? What URL? [23:24:39] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Identification_noticeboard&action=submit [23:24:53] yeah, strange it only seems to be happening there (at least not in my userspace) [23:25:31] Works for me: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Identification_noticeboard&diff=3834694&oldid=3834681 [23:25:55] huh [23:26:35] nope