[00:01:47] its external? [00:01:55] wow [00:02:59] ToAruShiroiNeko: That's it's name, cause the text blobs are stored on other servers than the rest of the data [00:16:32] aw [00:16:35] * ToAruShiroiNeko panics [00:22:41] Is something wrong with the Wikimedia sites? They seem to be down. [00:24:19] wikipedia is working for me, but not gerrit [02:00:55] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37395#c3 <-- would like someone to double check this [02:01:32] I haven't audited the mw code or the CU plugin in a while, so it might have already been taken into account [02:01:39] but I have a strange feeling it hasn't [02:06:04] slakr-mobl: 35542 is about it [02:07:20] saper: AHA! thanks for that, reading [02:25:22] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf4) at Tue Jun 12 02:25:21 UTC 2012 [02:25:28] Logged the message, Master [02:34:49] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf5) at Tue Jun 12 02:34:49 UTC 2012 [02:34:54] Logged the message, Master [03:35:55] JuanCarlos of Freenode and [[Wikipedia:User:Killiondude|Killiondude]] of Wikipedia is Brandon Killion. His personal cell # is: (530) 207-9476. [03:35:58] His dad is: [03:36:00]
Jim D Killion [03:36:02]
(530) 669-5708 [03:36:04]
248 Arlington Cir [03:36:06]
Woodland, CA 95695-2878 [03:36:08] Mom is Rhonda, and a brother is Seth. [03:36:10] His house is worth about $153,000. [03:36:12] Moreover, he likes to really piss off IP users for things that wouldn't even faze other admins. [03:36:16] ==Other lives of Brandon Killion== [03:36:18] His dad is a pastor at a megachurch also in Woodland. [http://www.cotrwoodland.org/about-us This is their "About Us" page, and Killiondude is one of the boys in the picture. He's either the tallest or the second-tallest.] [03:36:22] He may be a pastor's kid, but acts nothing like a real christian on Wikipedia and Freenode. [03:36:24] His dad also owns and runs the "Lord's Gym" in the same town, and their equipment seems badass. [03:36:26] ==Killiondude's house== [03:36:28] [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=248+Arlington+Cir+Woodland,+CA%09+95695-2878&hl=en&ll=38.68896,-121.76656&spn=0.016062,0.010214&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=65.302917,41.835938&hnear=248+Arlington+Cir,+Woodland,+California+95695&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.689956,-121.767967&panoid=FMYJEbVmMvkHI6GWOFizHw&cbp=12,71.85,,0,10.77 His house appears to be some McMansion in a suburb, with a basketball stand and some tra [03:36:33] iler right behind it.] [03:36:35] Sorry to say, but just from the looks of things, Brandon may be spoiled rotten, hence he seems to think pretty little of lowly IP users like the bunch of us. [03:36:40] ==Insight on this pastor's kid== [03:36:42] A trusted, undercover associate has stated that: [03:36:46]

''I think you would be surprised at how atypical the "typical" pastor's kid actually is.'' [03:36:49]
''~10% are goody two shoes that everyone hates'' [03:36:51]
''~60% you wouldn't know they were different from any other kids'' [03:36:53]
''~30% are asshole rebels determined to distance themselves from the PK stereotype as much as possible''

[03:37:20] !ops [03:38:09] !ops can we get this outter banned stat? [03:41:49] RD to the rescue. [03:41:49] <3 [03:41:58] lol [03:42:11] k: gonna be around a bit? [03:42:15] Yes. [03:42:22] ty [03:42:24] Thanks bro. [03:42:38] I have to go to work soon. [03:42:49] Have fun! [05:49:48] RD: Why don't I have ops in here? [07:58:28] [[Tech]]; Psubhashish; /* Help regarding an analysis tool! */ ; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=3826104&oldid=3823166&rcid=3342640 [09:58:18] !log hashar synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'bug 37391 - Install Translate extension on be.wikimedia.org' [09:58:23] Logged the message, Master [09:58:42] stupid me [09:59:20] !log hashar synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'revert translate extension on be.wikimedia.org, need DB update' [09:59:23] Reedy: any idea how to apply a DB schema for an extension ? [09:59:24] Logged the message, Master [09:59:33] I am enabling Translate extension on be.wikimedia.org [09:59:41] "TranslatablePage::getTranslatablePages". Database returned error "1146: Table 'bewikimedia.revtag' doesn't exist (10.0.6.35)" [09:59:44] ouch :) [10:00:40] sounds like it has to do with being a wikimedia rather than a regular project and "langlist" [10:00:56] ahhh [10:00:58] we have a how to [10:00:59] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/How_to_do_a_schema_change [10:01:27] RoanKattouw_away: And if anyone runs update.php I'll be on the first flight to SFO to slap them in the face [10:01:29] hmm [10:01:30] so [10:01:47] just when I was going to do mwscript update.php bewikimediawiki haha [10:03:07] well roan did always want to know what would happen if you run it on the cluster [10:04:29] I am going to add the patch files manually through sql.php [10:12:56] stupid me [10:12:58] seriously [10:17:04] !log bewikimedia (db39) : dropped tables translate_tmf , translate_tms and translate_tmt I have incorrectly added [10:17:09] Logged the message, Master [10:21:02] I screwed the database :-( [10:21:04] seriously [10:21:10] I should have use update.php or something [10:21:57] yeah do not . ever. run update.php on the cluster. [10:22:00] seriously [10:22:03] hehe [10:22:09] I have did mwscript sql.php [10:22:12] to avoid being slapped by Roan [10:22:13] ;) [10:22:28] he would just be the first in line :-D [10:23:03] !log Compared translate% tables schema on bewikimedia with incubatorwiki. diff prove they are the same so the schema changes made early are successful. [10:23:08] Logged the message, Master [10:23:23] apergos: anyway incubatorwiki db has a MyISAM table apparently : translate_messageindex [10:23:40] according to: sql incubatorwiki && SHOW CREATE TABLE translate_messageindex \G [10:23:45] should I log that in RT ? [10:24:47] !log hashar synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'bug 37391 , take 2 - Install Translate extension on be.wikimedia.org' [10:24:52] Logged the message, Master [10:25:24] !log hashar synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'bug 37391 , take 2 - Install Translate extension on be.wikimedia.org' [10:25:29] Logged the message, Master [10:27:28] hmm [10:27:33] so the schema change seems to be working [10:27:45] yes you should [10:27:49] hashar: [10:28:32] oh golly I wonder how long this table conversion on es1004 is going to take *sigh* [10:29:51] I have opened RT 3100 about that MyISAM table https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=3100 [10:31:01] !log incubatorwiki.translate_messageindex on db39 uses MyISAM engine. See {{rt|3100}} [10:31:06] Logged the message, Master [10:31:13] grrr [10:31:16] there is no RT template [10:31:18] I love my job :-] [10:31:44] more already auto rewrites RT BLAH iirc [10:33:38] RT template where? [10:34:46] !rt 3100 | hashar [10:34:52] on wikitech :) [10:34:55] I am trying to build one [10:35:30] ah,ok, i did add interwiki to RT though [10:36:29] GRR that generates URL like https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=3100%7CRT [10:36:31] so [[RT:123]] also works from IRC -> SAL on Wiktech -> RT [10:37:14] * hashar try [10:37:59] !log test [[RT:3100]] foo [10:38:03] Logged the message, Master [10:38:20] got it [10:38:21] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/edit/Template:Rt [10:38:32] [[RT:{{{1}}}|RT #{{{1}}}]] [10:38:46] so I can use {{rt|1234}} [10:42:24] mysql> select * from mw_iwlinks where iwl_prefix="rt"; [10:45:01] mysql> select * from mw_interwiki where iw_prefix="RT"; [11:50:26] hashar: same was as you can do any other [11:50:39] sql wikidb < /h/w/c/php/path/to/file.sql [12:00:08] yup did that [12:00:25] Reedy: funnily, Translate provides lot of .sql files some of them probably unwanted [12:01:08] mmm [12:01:08] Reedy: meanwhile, I have added you as a review to some changes made in operations/mediawiki-config [12:01:10] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:operations/mediawiki-config,n,z [12:01:15] Some of them are for optional stuff I think [12:01:19] I just create them all anyway [12:01:59] Any gerrit admins present? [12:02:07] I need a new repo [12:02:48] siebrand: what would be the desired name and would it have an existing "parent" project? [12:03:01] extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector [12:03:19] Rights: L10n-team [12:03:31] oh 2pm [12:03:34] dammn [12:03:37] out for FOOD [12:03:51] Hmm, IRC client troubles for me [12:03:56] siebrand: i can create a project for you and define a parent for it, from shell, but i don't know about the permissions unless it is fine that it inherits them from parent [12:04:05] Rights: l10n-team [12:04:29] mutante: I think I may be able to change those. [12:04:41] brb [12:05:52] mutante: not sure if you got everything… My client is dropping lines... [12:06:08] mutante: mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector [12:06:13] mutante: rights: L10n-team [12:06:57] !log gerrit create-project --name=mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector --parent=mediawiki/extensions [12:07:02] Logged the message, Master [12:07:20] siebrand: please check permissions [12:07:33] should be there now [12:08:03] mutante: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector,access looks good. [12:08:13] :) ok. good [12:09:24] mutante: these two settings were disabled, I enabled them (as they are enabled on Translate also): [12:09:25] Automatically resolve conflicts [12:09:25] Require Change-Id in commit message [12:09:58] ok, well, as you see above all i do is use defaults (and the parent which it inherits from) [12:10:21] chad knows better about more detailed permissions if ever needed [12:11:11] mutante: hmm, any idea why? [12:11:12] Cloning into UniversalLanguageSelector... [12:11:13] warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. [12:11:46] that may be normal on the very first checkout from empty repo i think [12:11:56] vaguely remember that from another one [12:12:00] k [12:12:43] commit something intially like a README and try again i'd say [12:14:51] mutante: *nod* done. Thanks. [12:15:18] yw! [12:15:49] mutante: clone works without issues after the 1st commit [12:17:28] yup, had same thing afair [12:27:19] my coworking place is soooo crowed [12:27:46] there is like 25 persons in there whereas the max I have seen so far was like 15 or so [14:09:34] Reedy: some more for ya :-] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11040 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [14:48:11] !log asher synchronized wmf-config/CommonSettings.php 'disabling mysql parsercache (db40) in order to perform maintenance' [14:48:15] Logged the message, Master [14:51:49] * domas eyes http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Application%20servers%20pmtpa&m=load_one&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2 [14:53:21] domas: thats about in line with when i disabled db40 in commonsettings [14:53:31] yup [14:53:32] I know [14:53:35] thats why I looked at it :) [14:55:23] when we have >1TB of memcached, i wonder if we should keep the mysql version. maybe just for persistence? [14:56:12] domas: you should check out https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/10349 too [14:56:39] "The page you requested was not found." [14:56:58] hm [14:58:32] hrm [14:59:33] Too many digits [14:59:52] or not.. [15:00:16] binasher: what do you mean by mysql version? [15:00:31] ? [15:00:31] the mysql "version" of the parser cache [15:00:47] ah [15:00:50] thanks [15:01:11] binasher: btw, do you want me to put php 5.4 packages on my idle queue? [15:01:30] to work on building php 5.4 packages that is [15:01:43] paravoid: see includes/objectcache/SqlBagOStuff.php [15:03:09] tim is opposed to running without suhosin and looking at the number of remote php exploits its mitigated over the last couple of years, thats hard to argue with [15:05:00] the extension has been partially upgraded to work with 5.4 but still has bugs.. the patch hasn't at all afaik (unlike the extension, it isn't in github or a public repo) [15:06:49] sec [15:06:58] I have to quote a thread from yesterday :) [15:08:09] ttps://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2012/06/msg00284.html [15:08:11] er [15:08:12] https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2012/06/msg00284.html [15:12:27] :) [15:13:26] the reply is from the php5 team, which seems to agree [15:13:51] I'll send these to the list [15:14:01] when I finish upgrading php5 to all servers :) [15:14:17] !log asher synchronized wmf-config/CommonSettings.php 'reenabling mysql pcache' [15:14:21] Logged the message, Master [15:14:41] most distros are abandoning suhosin [15:14:58] there hasn't even been a release of the patch for the last 5 or so versions of 5.3 [15:16:02] that we or anyone cares says more about the state of php than suhosin [15:17:19] indeed [15:25:44] !log py synchronized wmf-config/db.php [15:25:49] Logged the message, Master [15:33:12] !log py synchronized wmf-config/db.php 'removing dbs 33, 34, 36, 50, 55, 56 from pools for kern upgares' [15:33:17] Logged the message, Master [15:49:31] Reedy: can enwiki.bv2009_edits be dropped? [15:52:35] binasher: not sure. They shouldn't be used by anything. Might want to check with Tim-away/werdna [15:56:03] I'd guess the same would go for bv2011_edits [15:56:45] Those tables should be on most wikis... [15:56:59] I think it was just like an aggregate table for perf reasons [15:58:36] off for today. see you later [15:59:45] too much gerrit spam http://imgur.com/bHfcw :-] [15:59:46] ++ [16:27:28] !log py synchronized wmf-config/db.php 're-adding dbs 33, 34, 36, 50, 55, 56 to pools after kern upgares' [16:27:32] Logged the message, Master [16:44:33] !log py synchronized wmf-config/db.php 'removing db25 from pools for kern upgares' [16:44:37] Logged the message, Master [17:54:36] what should I check if I can't open upload.wikimedia.org on my pc? [17:55:10] `host upload.wikimedia.org` works, `curl upload.wikimedia.org` returns "curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'upload.wikimedia.org'" [18:09:54] !log py synchronized wmf-config/db.php 're-adding db25 to pool after kern upgares' [18:09:58] Logged the message, Master [19:13:37] !log mlitn Started syncing Wikimedia installation... : [19:13:42] Logged the message, Master [20:49:30] did we have a site outage for a few hours between 6/8 (8pm) and 6/9 (2am)? Trying to make sense of what happened to account registration data (gone to 0 during that interval, could be a DB replication problem) [20:49:53] Not that I recall but the server admin log would tell you [20:51:17] It was suggested I should join the chat because somehow gerrit people are not able to sent me an temp password (see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access#User:MWJames) [20:51:50] nothing suspicious in the server admin log for that period [20:58:45] RoanKattouw: since you are in SF and close to mobile guys. I will move the Mobile configuration out of commonSettings.php https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11036/ [20:58:52] RoanKattouw: do you know anyone I should warn about that? [20:59:37] hmm maybe too late office people probably flushed outside to get lunch :-D [20:59:52] will find out tomorrow [21:00:03] Lunch people should be back [21:00:06] It's 2pm [21:00:13] ohh [21:00:15] yeah 11pm [21:00:17] You should tell Patrick and Arthur at least [21:00:22] k [21:04:43] RoanKattouw: done. Many thanks Roan! [21:06:18] have a good night everyone [21:56:23] anyone doing anything on fenari? my deployment window's in 5 minutes [21:59:05] okay, no response --> I'm starting:) [22:24:48] mwj: hi [22:24:53] Ryan_Lane: got a moment? [22:24:59] sure. what's up? [22:25:26] [20:51:17] It was suggested I should join the chat because somehow gerrit people are not able to sent me an temp password (see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access#User:MWJames) [22:25:59] did anyone verify that his email address was correct? [22:26:07] Ryan_Lane: I have done modify-ldap-user for mwj's user on formey and I updated his email [22:26:15] ah. ok [22:26:27] what's the username? [22:26:30] Ryan_Lane: but maybe something didn't work? [22:26:37] Ryan_Lane: mwjames is the LDAP username [22:26:54] mwj: I am sorry for the trouble here -- you've run into some kind of edge case in our systems [22:27:04] is the mail getting sent to spam? [22:27:16] no [22:27:26] Ryan_Lane: mwj says that he has checked that many times [22:27:55] Ryan_Lane: when someone originally created this account, it got created with an email address ending in .de , not sure why, maybe a copy-and-paste error [22:27:55] Since I'm regular email user I can assure I know how to use the email [22:28:06] the relay says it's sending fine [22:28:07] mwj: don't worry, no offense is intended [22:28:26] mwj: even I've forgotten to check the spambox sometimes! [22:28:28] it's not meant to be offensive, often mail goes into spam [22:28:30] I never check my spam [22:29:17] ah [22:29:40] Ryan_Lane: ok, so, the email address listed in ldaplist is the same as the one that mwj has been checking. [22:29:41] well, I do see one problem, but it wouldn't affect mail delivery [22:29:49] Ryan_Lane: is there some other place where a .de address is listed? [22:29:55] no [22:30:14] mwj: I just sent you an email from the system. did you get it? [22:30:17] why .de (mine is gmail.com email?0 [22:30:20] let me try sending one to myself [22:30:31] mwj: can you please respond in the private chat? [22:30:32] yes [22:31:01] mwj: As I said, I'm not sure why that .de suffix got mistakenly added to your email address in our system when the account got created originally [22:31:07] mwj: a human errror. [22:31:16] (much like that extra r just now!) [22:32:00] I got an email from root@virt0.wikimedia.org [22:32:10] ok, so mail from the system works [22:33:04] who made live changes to maintenance/populateRevisionSha1.php? are they safe to revert/scap? [22:33:07] damn it, the password change instructions are wrong again [22:33:35] Ryan_Lane: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access#Initial_log_in_and_password_change ? [22:33:45] yes [22:34:01] linking directly to Special:PasswordReset doesn't work [22:35:17] hm [22:35:20] it does in safari [22:35:24] it didn't just now in firefox [22:35:37] yep, didn't in chrome either [22:35:44] I think you *must* visit the login page first [22:35:47] stupid mediawiki [22:35:53] thedj: hi, did you see my private chat? [22:35:54] I did [22:36:06] and from their go to Special:PasswordReset [22:36:08] I did that [22:37:03] and I enter the user MWJames and the system show a message "email sent ..." [22:37:15] yeah. so it should work. [22:37:22] but after that nothing is in the email box [22:37:39] hm [22:37:40] weird [22:37:51] I wonder if mediawiki has your email address stored incorrectly somehow [22:38:09] who made live changes to maintenance/populateRevisionSha1.php? are they safe to revert/scap? [22:38:28] You just sent me an email, I suppose this is the one registered [22:38:45] mwj: wait, you just got one? [22:38:59] or you mean the one from the system? [22:39:18] no, I got yours from the test [22:39:24] ah. mediawiki has the wrong email address [22:39:42] sumanah: mediawiki sync's the email address from ldap [22:39:46] it does so when a user logs in [22:40:02] if an email address is changed in ldap,the user needs to log in for it to take effect [22:40:03] Ryan_Lane: aha! so that's the issue [22:40:08] Ryan_Lane: is this a bug? [22:40:13] I think re-running the script would work [22:40:20] the add-labs-user one [22:40:38] Ryan_Lane: I'm in the middle of something, can I ask you to do that? [22:40:50] So, do I have to do something? [22:41:09] mwj: try to reset your password now [22:41:19] sumanah: yep, that worked [22:41:42] it's not necessarily a bug [22:42:07] that won't work because "A password reminder has already been sent, within the last 24 hours" [22:42:14] heh [22:42:17] mediawiki.... [22:42:18] gimme a sec [22:42:48] mwj: ok, now do it. I've temporarily disabled that [22:43:13] yeah, I got en email now [22:43:31] great, lemme know when your password is changed, so that I can re-enable the settings [22:44:09] sumanah: was this a brand new account? [22:44:54] heh. I guess either way a botched email address is a botched email address. can't get around that :D [22:44:55] OK, just changed password [22:44:58] thanks [22:45:00] Ryan_Lane: so, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access/Archive#User:MWJames 7 april [22:45:19] Thanks, I think this issue is closed now [22:45:21] * Ryan_Lane nods [22:45:26] Ryan_Lane: and then mwj & I started fiddling with it 6 June [22:45:26] Thanks again. [22:45:27] mwj: glad I could help [22:45:57] this kind of problem will go away when we have open registration [22:46:57] Ryan_Lane: I have the sinking feeling you're waiting on something from me for that ;-? [22:47:02] nope [22:47:05] (I have no idea what that emoticon was) [22:47:08] oh Phew! [22:47:37] I need to change a few access things first [22:47:43] Ryan_Lane: can I help with whatever the blocker is? oh ok. [22:48:03] unfortunately not. I need to do some dev work for it [22:49:31] !log maxsem synchronized php-1.20wmf5/extensions/MobileFrontend/ 'Updating MobileFrontend' [22:49:36] Logged the message, Master [22:50:50] !log maxsem synchronized php-1.20wmf5/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ 'Updating ZeroRatedMobileAccess' [22:50:54] Logged the message, Master [22:52:46] !log maxsem synchronized php-1.20wmf4/extensions/MobileFrontend/ 'Updating MobileFrontend' [22:52:51] Logged the message, Master [22:53:57] !log maxsem synchronized php-1.20wmf4/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ 'Updating ZeroRatedMobileAccess' [22:54:01] Logged the message, Master [22:57:48] gn8 folks [22:58:35] !log maxsem synchronized php-1.20wmf4/extensions/MobileFrontend/ 'Updating MobileFrontend' [22:58:40] Logged the message, Master [23:15:42] !log preilly synchronized php-1.20wmf4/extensions/MobileFrontend/ 'try again' [23:15:47] Logged the message, Master [23:16:50] !log preilly synchronized php-1.20wmf5/extensions/MobileFrontend/ 'try again' [23:16:54] Logged the message, Master [23:50:29] [[Tech]]; Tbayer (WMF); /* Restrictions on Upload page */ ; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=3827802&oldid=3826104&rcid=3343709