[00:17:13] Good morning! Anyone around to help me deal with a possible case of someone hacking into wmf mail server or sending wmf mail from a faked wikimedia.org address please? [00:18:01] BarkingFish: and headers? [00:18:10] (the address he gave is not for any human) [00:18:40] i will forward those to wmf, or I can paste them up - my net is slow so I don't know if I can get three things working at once [00:21:27] jeremyb, I won't post the link in here - it's an unlisted pastebin, I will pm it to you and if others need it, to them too :) [00:21:49] damn. You're marked away, jeremyb [00:23:27] long long way to tipperary.... [00:24:09] morning Amgine [00:24:19] i'm not really away atm [00:24:28] *click* [00:24:40] i only kept the pastebin unlisted as it has my public email address in it [00:24:45] [00:24:48] i didn't mung it [00:25:49] ewww, BarkingFish what a horrible email host you use [00:25:51] ;-( [00:26:47] i can tell you now, it may have been someone who has harvested emails from within wiki(mp)edia at some point - I just found it in the inbox of an old email account I used to use with Wikipedia too [00:27:21] oh, it's not a current address [00:27:32] that's forgiveable i guess [00:27:33] i haven't used it on Wikipedia for almost a year [00:27:43] no, that one you have in the pastebin is my current address [00:27:56] I also got it in an inbox for my OLD wikipedia email address [00:28:12] anyway, it's pretty damn clear it didn't come from a WMF server [00:28:16] so I have 2 copies of it sent to addresses which I've used on Wikipedia [00:29:00] so it's not been routed through a wmf email server - that's good I suppose, but then how come they used a faked wikimedia email address...? [00:29:02] you could send an abuse report to KPN if you like [00:29:13] who knows? [00:29:16] it's come from holland? [00:29:19] yes [00:29:24] b****** [00:29:42] right. be back in a tick. [00:30:19] because they harvested from wikimedia so therefore they thought you'd be more likely to open it if it said wikimedia? i've no idea [00:30:41] (well idk about holland in particular. but it did come from .nl) [00:30:47] i have filters on mail set up to filter all wikimedia subject or email address linkes into a separate folder [00:31:34] Yeah, it would be holland - KPN is a state internet provider, Koninklijke Poste Nederland [00:31:52] their equivalent of what britain used to call the GPO [00:32:12] i was under the impression that not all of .nl was in holland [00:32:30] sounds like you know it better than i though [00:33:12] it is - .nl is the tld for the Netherlands as a whole - the outlying areas cover .be and .lu, flemish speaking areas come under .be [00:33:47] no, i thought there was a part of the netherlands proper that was not holladn [00:33:50] holland* [00:33:59] like britain vs. UK [00:34:15] ooooh... now you got my brain running [00:35:50] enwiki says: The Netherlands in its entirety is often referred to as Holland, although North and South Holland are actually only two of its twelve provinces (a case of pars pro toto; see terminology of "the Netherlands"). [02:23:47] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf3) at Wed May 30 02:23:47 UTC 2012 [02:23:53] Logged the message, Master [02:37:00] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf4) at Wed May 30 02:37:00 UTC 2012 [02:37:04] Logged the message, Master [06:05:02] !log hashar synchronized docroot/mediawiki/xml '{{bug|37111}} deploying export-0.7.xsd' [06:05:08] Logged the message, Master [06:08:15] ohh [08:58:09] issues during reupload images: [08:58:11] Die Datei /tmp/phpSB8kSx konnte nicht unter mwstore://local-NFS/local-public/b/b0/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-464-0384I-35,_Nemmersdorf_(Ostpreußen),_russischer_Panzer_T34.jpg gespeichert werden. [08:59:42] 2nd try works but leaves a wrong entry in the file history https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-464-0384I-35,_Nemmersdorf_%28Ostpreu%C3%9Fen%29,_russischer_Panzer_T34.jpg [09:13:03] bug filed: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37213 [09:13:35] Raymond_: thanks for the bug report [09:17:19] :) [09:29:34] join #wikimedia-commons [09:29:37] grrr [12:12:02] can someone please review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9383 ? [12:12:32] simple change to prevents $wgLoadScript on labs which does not have bits.wm.org yet [12:20:26] and there is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9384 easy too [14:38:14] .6 [15:45:30] we need a OP here [15:45:38] Thehelpfulone: oh, taht was fast _) [15:45:42] * Thehelpfulone is here to save the day ;) [15:46:35] Thehelpfulone: thanks :) [15:46:47] you always live up to your name [15:46:49] /10/2 [15:47:24] no problem, unfortunately it's in logs - I have access to be able to delete things from the logs, but I don't know if I should touch them. [15:47:45] Thehelpfulone: i can do the logs if you like [15:47:53] LeslieCarr: it's like the ~5th channel he hit [15:48:06] jeremyb: sure, it's on bots-1 or bots-2 [15:48:16] damn dude [15:48:34] i'd say this is good to delete from the logs, don't want this guy to get a lot of calls or his parents to get grief [15:48:44] can you kick that troll in #wikimedia-dev as well? [15:48:54] if you have the ability you could put a note in like "troll gave out personal info, DELETED!" [15:48:58] ah, done [15:49:29] maybe someone shoudl alert the freenode-staff that they can k-line him/her [15:50:13] yep that was done DaBPunkt [15:50:24] ok [15:50:26] good [16:02:16] . [16:03:00] hmm I got a permission denied jeremy when editing it, did you manage to do it? [16:03:11] i'm working on it [16:03:50] ok [16:06:37] !log reedy synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'subpages for frwikibooks' [16:06:41] Logged the message, Master [16:07:45] Reedy: there's a couple of requests that I assigned to you on gerrit if you get a minute too please [16:07:49] No [16:07:52] Not really [16:07:55] and if you could also sync the interwiki map? [16:08:16] I've just driven 7 hours to Berlin.. [16:34:32] ; [16:37:12] . [16:37:18] What's with the random punctuation, jeremyb? [16:37:21] omtsh: i'm fiddling with the bot and watching it's log [16:37:22] it's logging this channel [16:37:22] ok [16:37:22] Hi bot! [16:37:22] alternatively the rest of ya'll could speak [16:37:32] bot is being quite slow [16:37:37] there we go [16:40:24] \o/ [16:59:45] Hi :) There must be a bug to historials. See http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neil_Armstrong&action=history [16:59:55] histories* [17:00:20] what's the problem? [17:00:36] jeremyb: it's all french to me [17:01:05] Reedy: you speak french? [17:01:07] Jyothis: I revert 2 vandalims by 41.250.24.246 ( [17:01:19] Un petit [17:01:22] jeremyb: I revert 2 vandalims by 41.250.24.246 ( [17:01:26] Ok [17:01:33] hi Jyothis! [17:01:37] hola [17:01:53] jeremyb: But "Le pro du 94 :)" has also reverted after [17:02:07] the second did produce an entry [17:02:16] Superjuju10: so there's a race? [17:02:25] was this with a javascript tool? [17:03:12] a [[situation de compétition]] [17:03:28] I guess that's French for race condition [17:03:43] but that shouldn't happen [17:04:27] no harm done here, but if we're not showing the "someone edited before you"... [17:04:30] jeremyb: Yep :D recent changes patroller ;) [17:04:46] In French Wikipedia [17:05:07] (19:03:08) jeremyb: a [[situation de compétition]] -> Tout a fait Thierry ! :D [17:06:35] "Le pro du 94" edited from Le pro du 94 version [17:07:35] it might be the fault of the script, though [17:08:08] Le pro du 94 and me returned to the latest version of Salebot in 6.31 PM [17:11:53] Platonides: I remember a single event among  anti-vandalism bot on the French wikipedia and a Recent changes patrol  [17:15:13] Did this bug exists on other Wikipedia or Wikimedia Project ? [17:18:25] Superjuju10, if it's in frwiki, it will be present on all wmf wikis [17:18:35] I opened bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37225 [17:18:58] Platonides: Thank ;) [17:20:20] thanks for reporting [17:21:15] Thehelpfulone: i only did here and -dev. did i miss someplace? [17:21:30] hmm I think that's everywhere [17:21:47] k [17:21:48] bbl [17:26:05] Thehelpfulone: Are-you exemples of other projects ? [17:26:13] *or [17:26:33] hmm? [17:28:18] Thehelpfulone: Sorry : Have you others exemples of other Wikimedia's projects ? [17:28:54] Examples of other Wikimedia projects? http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Our_projects [17:33:30] Thehelpfulone: Yes, or if en.wiki, de.wiki... [17:40:31] !log aaron synchronized php-1.20wmf4/extensions/PageTriage 'Switched to wmf4 extension branch to get 0be1787634613a36439b760d6d5f0639724f8a7b' [17:40:35] Logged the message, Master [17:45:39] errors are being reported [17:45:45] I wonder, why is "Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem" error screen so ugly? [17:46:15] No one has every properly prettified it [17:46:19] What errors is anyone getting? [17:46:32] errors are, even [17:47:22] TBloemink: ? [17:47:29] It seems fixed, but let me search [17:48:00] It's pretty hard as people were flooding #wikipedia with the fact that we were down and I didn't get any error [17:50:14] oh, other issues ? [17:51:00] :-/ [17:52:25] anyone still seeing any issues [17:52:56] worksforme [17:53:17] mmm [17:53:36] !log reedy synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Add setting for random root page' [17:53:40] Logged the message, Master [17:58:28] Just curious, if I wanted to grab all the images from commons and enwiki, is there a recommended method to do so? [17:58:30] !log reedy synchronized wmf-config/CommonSettings.php 'Add enabling code for randomrootpage' [17:58:34] Logged the message, Master [18:00:28] !log reedy synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Enable random root page on testwiki' [18:00:32] Logged the message, Master [18:02:19] !log reedy synchronized wmf-config/CommonSettings.php 'Fix capitalisation' [18:02:23] Logged the message, Master [18:02:32] phuzion: do you reali[sz]e how much disk space that would need? [18:02:46] Reedy: Yep :) [18:03:46] Have you got like 20TB of space? :P [18:04:42] phuzion: every single one ? i don't know of any though i would highly recommend having a very descriptive rdns on the ip you are using, a descriptive user-agent as well, and warning wikitech-l, preferably with an easy way of contacting you in case you need to throw a kill switch [18:04:51] perhaps coordinating a 1 hour run of your attempted method first [18:04:56] (worried about strain on db's) [18:05:06] are you looking to capture all of the resized thumbnails or the originals ? [18:05:17] In theory... Most of this should be doable by hitting the squids [18:05:26] Reedy: well, tis 11 :) [18:06:15] LeslieCarr: Originals, and I've got no problem of rate-limiting the hell out of it. If it takes a few weeks, that's no problem. [18:07:21] ok originals is actually better than every single thumbnail (the load on generating them for unviewed pics would suck) [18:07:29] Yeah [18:07:42] i think with a warning and a 1 hour test to see load (to adjust rate limiting accordingly) it might work out [18:07:46] You'd need a db query to get a list of all the images... [18:07:48] from the operations point of view [18:08:06] But after that, you could do pretty much all the work client side, with just direct http requests for each file/image [18:08:22] Reedy: all the en non-wikipedias? [18:08:46] phuzion: make sure you check in with apergos first too :) [18:09:10] AaronSchulz: no, all non wikipedia sites [18:09:29] Reedy: Sure. I've got the imagelinks dump from the beginning of this month, so I could use that, I think [18:09:32] Reedy: I mean right now [18:09:32] if you wanted to grab all the images from commons [18:09:37] you would *not* go to our servers [18:09:40] grrrrrrr [18:10:01] AaronSchulz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20/Roadmap#Schedule_for_the_deployments [18:10:03] * AaronSchulz hears that conference call music [18:10:06] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/mirrors.html [18:10:14] Reedy: I have that open already :) [18:10:14] see where it says images? [18:10:30] go there and rsync the commons ones, if you want them all, it's like 14T r something [18:10:35] then rsync the en wikipedia ones [18:10:37] we have image clones? :o [18:10:40] phuzion: [18:11:02] Reedy: but we don't do them all in one go, don't we do all the en ones first? [18:11:03] oh [18:11:08] just the flat filesystem but [18:11:18] oh, I read it wrong [18:11:25] there are tarballs being written [18:11:28] you mean lang = en, project != wikipedia [18:11:35] ;) [18:11:38] s/ = / == / [18:11:38] (prolly done in a day or two, apri 30 data but it's a fine starrt) [18:11:46] Sure [18:12:53] thanks guys, that will be useful :) [18:15:08] it's en wp you need right? [18:15:18] cause the tarballs for that are rady now (apr 30 like I said but still) [18:15:21] *ready [18:15:39] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Gadgets_all_AWOL <- is this the problem which was being sought earlier? [18:15:41] one thing is we are still working out hardware/network issues over there so if [18:15:55] your connection suddenly drops out or whatever, just wait a while and try again [18:16:04] the tarballs will be announced when things are stabler [18:16:22] !log aaron rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: Moved EN, non-wikipedia, non-special, sites to wmf4 [18:16:27] Logged the message, Master [18:17:09] AaronSchulz: are you going to do the honours? [18:17:44] you want to do the specials now? [18:17:53] I'm browsing the affected wikis now [18:18:00] oh [18:18:03] I missed you'd moved them [18:18:04] pfft [18:18:26] loads of crap in the fatal log, nothing relevant [18:19:03] phuzion: if you arenot on the xmldatadumps-l list, I would suggest getting on it [18:19:08] it's not a huge volume list [18:19:45] Reedy: yeah, the Language.php noise [18:23:50] Reedy: should we do commons sooner or later? [18:24:41] Might aswell get it done [18:24:51] I'll give a heads up in #wikimedia-commons [18:26:12] hello [18:26:35] ohai [18:26:42] gadgets extension seems to have died on en.wiki [18:27:15] I saw that [18:27:17] 18:16 logmsgbot: aaron rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: Moved EN, non-wikipedia, non-special, sites to wmf4 [18:27:18] ahah [18:27:18] Only on monobook? [18:27:25] is wmf4 breaking gadgets? :( [18:27:31] apergos: Signed up, I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks for the info. [18:27:31] wmf4 isn't on enwiki [18:27:38] sure [18:28:09] Reedy: vector too [18:28:19] Oh? [18:28:32] yeah, all gadgets are dead on en.wiki [18:28:50] expect a flood of angry wikipedians any second now :) [18:28:58] lol [18:29:01] Krinkle is still out for dinner AFAIK [18:29:26] !log aaron rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: Commonswiki to wmf4 [18:29:29] kaldari: are there http errors loading load.php or something? [18:29:31] Logged the message, Master [18:29:39] * AaronSchulz checks ganglia [18:30:00] not that I've seen [18:30:13] It looks like the extension is simply disabled or something [18:30:35] it doesn't even display the tab in the prefs [18:30:55] I was just about to say that [18:31:04] IT's enabled on special:Version [18:32:26] kaldari: fixed [18:32:34] whew [18:32:45] Caching issue [18:32:48] what was it? [18:32:53] We've seen something very similar on labs before [18:33:08] hm, were there any changes on DE-Wiki recently (last hour or something?) [18:33:09] AaronSchulz: I blanked MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition and reverted it [18:34:05] ahh [18:34:15] T3rminat0r: not that I know of [18:34:16] I wouldn't have thought of that [18:35:34] AaronSchulz: apparenly all Helper scripts (gadgets? German it's "Helferlein) are gone and disabled, and the Settings tab for them is gone aswell... [18:35:42] Gadgets [18:35:43] Gadgets [18:35:44] Gadgets [18:35:46] Same thing [18:35:47] heh [18:36:12] * Reedy goes to vandalise dewiki [18:36:18] Shall I try a zero edit on the definitions? [18:36:24] Oh Reedy, feel free [18:36:29] do we need to do the same thing on all the wikis or is there a way to purge their caches systematically? [18:36:31] So, I'm not the one to blame :P [18:36:48] Reedy: is it a bad memc key? [18:37:00] they could be nuked a for loop if that's the case [18:37:06] *in a for [18:37:09] Expired, maybe [18:37:22] Reedy: I'll do it [18:37:24] on dewiki [18:37:29] I've done dewiki [18:37:39] I can't remember if purge/null edit actually works [18:37:43] I remember poking at this before [18:37:44] french looks ok [18:37:53] german looks good too [18:38:02] I'm gonna log a bug and poke MaxSem about it, so I don't forget [18:38:10] This laptop is pissing me off, and I have no code checkouts on it [18:38:49] lol [18:38:58] failtop [18:39:13] Reedy: Shall I blank the definitons on all big wikis and revert? [18:39:51] I've been doing action=purge on them, does that work? [18:39:59] kaldari: no, tested it before [18:40:07] :( [18:40:08] Ok, eswiki is fine, without editing [18:40:14] commons is fine [18:40:41] ah [18:40:47] That might be the bug [18:40:49] and so is fr... [18:40:51] or part of it, that purge didn't work [18:40:53] Reedy: sync-wikiversions should run git commit :) [18:41:19] {{SoFixIt}} [18:42:00] hoo: null edit is probably suffice [18:42:13] Reedy: I guess so... [18:42:24] I remembered before that something didn't work [18:42:32] So blanking provided me with more luls, so I did that ;) [18:42:39] Purge not working seems right [18:43:02] heh... global rights are fun :D [18:45:19] !log aaron rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: All wikibooks, wikinews, wikiquote to wmf4 [18:45:23] Logged the message, Master [18:46:26] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37228 [18:47:37] !log aaron rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: All wikisource, wikiversity, wiktionary to wmf4 [18:47:41] Logged the message, Master [18:48:37] Reedy: added me to the CC... are you on Hackathon this weekend, btw? [18:48:46] Yeah [18:48:48] I'm in Berlin now [18:49:01] Oh :) I'll go by train on friday [18:55:25] !log aaron rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: All special wikis to wmf4 [18:55:29] Logged the message, Master [18:55:46] AaronSchulz: still looks fine [18:56:16] Reedy: someone should respond at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/7823/2 :p [18:56:53] Reedy: sorry about my changes to docroot [18:57:08] Reedy: I wasn't aware all of it was part of git ;-] [18:57:17] hashar: EVERYTHING is in git now! [18:57:19] (the 0.7 xsd export schema is from me) [18:57:19] Well, nearly [18:57:21] yeah [18:57:25] bar those 10MB+ PPTs.. [18:57:30] I need to add the PS1 hack to show the git branch [18:58:15] AaronSchulz: lol. That needs changing on most of the scripts [18:58:24] If we could get all the outstandins committed, then we can tidy them up [18:58:49] and/or both [18:59:11] I'd agree, we should get blocked on that [18:59:15] *shouldn't [18:59:25] mmm [18:59:35] I've got a couple of other outstanding commits too that'd be useful to do [18:59:48] I'll see if I can poke ops to push these, and then I'll tidy up [19:00:11] Warning: Division by zero in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf4/includes/ImagePage.php on line 344 [19:00:20] 1 Warning: Division by zero in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf4/includes/ImagePage.php on line 343 [19:00:20] 1 Warning: Division by zero in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf4/includes/ImagePage.php on line 338 [19:00:24] Did I report these before... [19:00:55] That's a yes [19:06:04] AaronSchulz: hi :) You raised an issue earlier about job queue being run against aawiki , I have sent a patch for you :) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9424 [19:06:17] * AaronSchulz should have kept his mouth shut [19:06:19] (ok that sentence is unclear) [19:06:23] hehe [19:06:39] I had the exact issue you have described on labs [19:06:42] hee [19:06:51] err on labs, I had the issue you described earlier [19:07:18] aka the main loop still looping cause there is a job transcode job in commonswiki but it is not filtered out by nextJobDB.php :-( [19:07:38] we should probably add a field in the `job` table with some kind of priority [19:07:47] 1 as default / priority [19:07:49] 0 to not process [19:07:55] 2+ for higher priority [19:08:05] that would be easier than handling that mess using globals [19:08:13] * hashar should write an RFC but his lazy tonight [19:08:15] is [19:08:53] hashar: see if we had proper config management, aawiki could fetch the config from the target wiki [19:09:01] yup [19:09:06] but have a global var is fine for now [19:09:19] well we could also fork using the correct --wiki value [19:09:42] AaronSchulz: are we all donenow? [19:10:15] Reedy: how do you do http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix#mw-sitematrix-others ? by hand? [19:10:35] merging thanks Aaron [19:11:14] Use the other dblists? [19:11:30] private, readonly, fishbowl etc [19:11:47] those three? [19:12:07] or you use the all.dblist to put everything to 1.20wmf4 [19:12:19] and then use wikipedia.dblist to put the wikipediads back to 1.20wmf3 :p [19:12:25] (obviously not syncing till after) [19:12:36] * AaronSchulz volunteers Reedy for that [19:12:40] I tidied them up last time, so they should be correct now [19:12:41] oook [19:15:37] !log reedy rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: Some more of the misc wikis to 1.20wmf4 [19:15:40] Logged the message, Master [19:17:59] hmm, 27 wikis seem not to be in the individuals... [19:19:28] !log reedy rebuilt wikiversions.cdb and synchronized wikiversions files: 27 more of the misc wikis to 1.20wmf4 [19:19:32] Logged the message, Master [19:19:59] AaronSchulz: another easy one (sorry) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9426 [19:20:08] I forgot to initialize $dbr while refactoring code [19:20:17] needed to ->addQuotes( 'some sql' ) [19:20:57] yeah, I just +2ed [19:21:03] thanks [19:21:28] I am happy to learn I am not the only one doing that kind of mistakes [19:21:40] it usually happens when you refactor [19:21:46] (PHP should definitely detect that kind of fault, aka use of uninitialized variable) [19:22:05] my IDE sometimes detects those [19:22:15] heh [19:22:23] I am sure vim has a plugin for it [19:22:27] but really [19:22:30] now [19:22:40] I know why I should have learned C at school [19:22:44] Things like that are where "compiled" languages have an advantage [19:22:47] instead of doing some assembly / pascal [19:22:48] NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT [19:22:58] I would be able to implements some strictness to PHP [19:23:19] huh, $a = $undefined is not picked up by my ide, but if ( $undefined ) is [19:23:27] lol [19:23:30] gj [19:23:36] AaronSchulz: we look to be all done now. Thanks! :) [19:23:55] * AaronSchulz goes back to DBCache work [19:24:06] heh [19:24:14] YEAHHH [19:24:15] I'm going to see what food this hotel has... [19:24:19] AaronSchulz: thanks aaron !! [19:24:26] AaronSchulz: job infinite loop is no more! [19:24:37] Reedy: mercure ? [19:24:45] aren't you with the other people? [19:24:55] I've nfi where anyone else is [19:25:08] I think some were at c-base this afternoon [19:25:13] I saw some people when I arrived [19:25:18] Erik proposed a dinner at 7pm IIRC [19:25:24] i got distracted with work, had a shower [19:25:28] and then no one was around [19:25:31] :-((( [19:25:33] poor sam [19:25:37] so I came back and did some more work :p [19:25:53] I guess the more we do before the event [19:25:59] the more the event we will spend doing hack [19:26:24] I haven't got access to my wikimedia email account, which is really useful... [19:28:05] well daughter is sick [19:28:13] off for today [19:34:01] !log reedy synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Enable randomrootpage on wikibooks and wikisources' [19:34:05] Logged the message, Master [19:43:02] Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. [19:43:02] Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. [19:43:02] (Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.0.227)) [19:43:15] getting that message any time I'm trying to make a change [19:43:17] Magog_the_Ogre, same error here. [19:43:24] On fr.wp. [19:43:30] commons, en.wp [19:43:38] Software error on Bugzilla :( [19:43:47] cause db9 is down [19:43:54] what does the above have to do with bugzilla? [19:44:41] [20:43:22] PROBLEM - Host db9 is DOWN: PING CRITICAL - Packet loss = 100% [19:44:50] there we go, worked [19:44:50] It happened at the same time [19:45:00] It's external storage related [19:45:29] wikimedia doesn't actually own its db's on site? [19:46:16] Yes, it owns them all [19:46:33] Magog_the_Ogre: external storage as in "not in the box" not as in "not owned" [19:46:44] PAge text is huge [19:47:01] Magog_the_Ogre, it is working now for me. [19:47:05] no idea if I should report this to you, because you probably know that already [19:47:20] I just got a couple of "Database connection errors" on blog.wikimedia.org [19:47:33] db9 also [19:47:52] I have another bug entirely I'd like to report [19:47:59] I was advised at night by someone to report it [19:48:09] thumb not updating here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries_results_by_county,_2012.png [19:48:49] even after purge [19:49:28] not the only page it happens on; it will update eventually, but doesn't for the time being [19:54:22] Magog_the_Ogre: :-( [19:54:33] Magog_the_Ogre: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Purge#Advanced_manual_thumbnail_purging [19:54:54] Magog_the_Ogre: this one is {{done}} already, try to refres [19:56:06] huh [19:56:13] did you follow the instructions on that page? [19:56:33] yes, but I went to [[COM:FAQ]] first :-) [19:56:42] * Reedy goes to look for foods [19:56:47] I'm pretty sure I purged it [19:56:52] I'm 100% sure I purged it [19:56:57] didn't update for me; odd [19:57:28] 120px isn't updated yet: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries_results_by_county%2C_2012.png/120px-Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries_results_by_county%2C_2012.png [19:57:35] I'll follow instructions; brb [19:58:20] SO WEIRD [19:58:40] ? [20:01:47] I I hadn't been aware of thumb.php [20:02:00] it works quite well, yes. [20:02:08] tbh I find it to be a terrible workaround for a problem (probably 0.1% of users are aware of it) [20:02:30] maybe it should be linked directly from the FAQ, then? [20:03:35] is it really too expensive for the servers to update used thumbs immediately? [20:03:37] I just know that COM:FAQ-PL#PURGE links to that file [20:03:42] the squid servers [20:05:27] Magog_the_Ogre: I believe it's just a small percent of the files that have such problems with thumbnails as yours [20:05:52] right [20:05:59] that means there's a bug somewher ein the software [20:06:03] that probably should be fixed [20:06:14] no, I don't think it's a bug. [20:10:37] then what is it, if the thumb isn't generating? [20:10:43] it's not my local machine [20:12:02] Magog_the_Ogre: it's cache, as I understand it. [20:12:56] squid cache though, not my machine's cache [20:13:03] if I open in two different browsers, the same issue occurs [20:27:01] Magog_the_Ogre: hey what's up ? [20:27:11] hi [20:27:16] did you see my above posts? [20:27:25] ah [20:27:33] so the 120px version of that file is not proper ? [20:27:38] after the purge ? [20:27:39] well it is now [20:27:41] ok [20:27:45] I had to use thumb.php [20:27:49] but a regular purge won't fix it [20:27:51] oh [20:27:55] that actually is a problem [20:28:03] a regular purge is supposed to fix all the thumbnails as well :-/ [20:28:04] unfortunately I fixed all the thumbs for it [20:28:24] I can message you the next time I see it happen [20:28:42] cool [20:28:53] we previously had some issues with the thumbnail storage [20:28:56] we thought it was all fixed [20:29:03] so i'd like to see if it's thumbnail storage or if it's varnish [20:29:10] yeah I messaged someone at night a few weeks ago who said I bring it up during the day, so I am :) [20:29:28] I don't know what you mean by varnish >_> [20:29:59] varnish = caching later [20:30:03] caching layer [20:30:07] replacing squid [20:30:32] the images do end up replacing, it just takes several hours, IIRC [20:30:53] but that was my observation several months ago so it might be a different issue [20:31:01] wow, also i had no idea there were others running for the dem presidential primary [20:32:07] yeah; it's been a bit of an embarassment for Obama [20:32:28] in WV, he almost lost to a convicted felon who's in jail in Texas [20:32:30] lol [20:32:36] i bet (going and reading related articles now) [20:32:41] omfg really ? [20:32:47] yup; [20:32:59] wv was the perfect state for it; it has sa lot of democrats, but none of them like obama [20:33:11] omg, leslie, like totally omg [20:33:16] :p [20:34:22] wow, i'm really curious if most people knew who he was or if they just voted against obama [20:35:22] it was a protest vote [20:35:34] they'd rather vote for a no-name guy who they probably haven't heard of than obama [20:39:55] Magog_the_Ogre: who, keith judd or w/e? No it's because he has an awesome mullet [20:39:59] Can't beat mullets. [20:40:43] is that the reason? who knew? [20:41:05] I've lived in backwoods, Pennsylvania, and I assure you that is accurate [20:41:30] Punxsatauny (sp) - onlyl one time I went was in late 90s [20:41:36] everybody and his sister had a mullet :) [20:41:49] despite it no longer being 1985 [20:41:51] Magog_the_Ogre: also might be because of his stunning resume -> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/keith-judd-takes-41-percent-of-west-virginia-democrat-votes--for-hes-a-jolly-good-felon/2012/05/09/gIQA8TIYDU_blog.html [20:41:58] "He lists degrees in everything from Physics/Nuclear Physics/Acoustics to Business/Music/Dance/Speech Communications." [20:42:07] lol [20:42:22] what could go wrong here? [20:42:55] He could have been the first president with a mullet, right? [20:43:36] He's got the clear endorsement from the Washington Post I'd say [20:43:44] The more I hear about him, the more convinced I am that Mr. Judd is an ideal candidate. None of the usual criticisms apply. Too rigid? Look at that hair! Too inexperienced? He’s been running for president since 1996! Professional qualifications? He has a degree in Music/Business/Acoustics/Nuclear Physics, a mullet, and a dream! He’s even a bass player! The more I hear, the more ideal he sounds! He can relate to real Americans, using music! H [20:43:44] e can bowl with us! [20:44:34] hehehe [20:44:36] I hear obama is an awesome bowler >_> [20:44:38] you should be a campaign writer :) [20:44:50] LeslieCarr: that is a quote from the Washington Post :P [20:45:19] oh [20:58:36] we seem to have deployed wmf4 without fixing 2 of the deployment blockers: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36974 [21:05:57] seems a matter of merging https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9210 [21:06:03] to the 1.20wmf4 branch [21:07:53] I'm working on it now [21:14:33] "blockers" is subjectiv [21:14:35] e [21:29:00] if "blockers" is subjective, it probably shouldn't be :P [21:29:28] or maybe we could add a "really real blocker" level :) [21:30:08] !log Synchronized payments cluster to DonationInterface 43a457e56d [21:30:11] Logged the message, Master [21:35:27] kaldari: it's more stuff we should get fixed, rather than "we can't deploy without fixing these" [21:41:06] in the case, though we shouldn't have deployed without 9210, as it broke CentralNotice [21:50:08] !log kaldari synchronized php-1.20wmf4/extensions/CentralNotice 'deploying 98db6a177df977a699576da9688588c77bf81b04' [21:50:12] Logged the message, Master [22:03:07] Reedy: What should someone do if they actually think we shouldn't deploy without fixing something? Ping you or Roan or maybe Robla? [22:03:42] Me/Robla [22:04:31] cool [22:04:48] Seriously, 12 seconds of IRC lag? Fu----- [22:07:50] kaldari are you a deployer now? [22:07:58] It's not a race. [22:08:11] but it could be! :) [22:08:24] * p858snake|l gets out the starting gun [22:08:35] I'm actually making a movie about MediaWiki deployment [22:08:43] maybe that could be a subplot [22:09:38] That reminds me, I need to order the jewelcases... [22:10:50] they seem to be sold in packs of 100. I hope the movie is popular [22:22:26] !log awjrichards synchronizing Wikimedia installation... : Weekly MobileFrontend deployment and picking up ZeroRatedMobileAccess i18n changes [22:22:30] Logged the message, Master [22:23:50] kaldari: Do you know of any scripts off-hand that add a section to the "Special characters" portion of the WikiEditor toolbar? [22:27:38] not off-hand, but I imagine a lot of the non-en wikis have such code in their Common.js or Common.js/edit.js [22:33:09] One would think. [22:34:10] Query: UPDATE `revision` SET rev_sha1 = 't7jwyqp5olfx5d4d5avv49wgaqz6a8s' WHERE rev_id = '84842001' [22:34:11] Function: PopulateRevisionSha1::upgradeRow [22:34:13] Error: 1205 Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (10.0.6.48) [22:34:14] Reedy: :p [22:34:19] time to give it a kick again [22:43:18] [[Tech]]; MZMcBride; /* Adding a section to the "Special characters" portion of WikiEditor toolbar */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=3800285&oldid=3625799&rcid=3326329 [22:53:39] sync done. [23:01:49] !log awjrichards synchronized wmf-config/CommonSettings.php [23:01:53] Logged the message, Master [23:17:18] gn8 folks [23:43:36] Thehelpfulone: ^ [23:43:55] thanks