[02:21:21] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf3) at Sun May 20 02:21:20 UTC 2012 [02:21:26] Logged the message, Master [02:43:09] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf2) at Sun May 20 02:43:08 UTC 2012 [02:43:12] Logged the message, Master [12:48:04] I think bits.wikimedia.org is broken or something [12:48:13] OggHandler images are not showing [12:49:22] but its Sunday, so is anyone experiencing this? [17:03:36] !log demon synchronized wmf-config/CommonSettings.php 'Syncing I6b0e91cd/bug 36931: tweaking account creation whitelist for ptwiki event' [17:03:42] Logged the message, Master [19:29:04] !log aaron synchronized wmf-config/swift.php 'more profiling' [19:29:09] Logged the message, Master [22:02:53] gn8 folks [23:07:37] Reedy, so what's the problem in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36987 ? [23:07:59] aka how do you know that it works fine in later releases [23:11:17] Somebody would've reported it [23:11:26] And I seem to recall fixing something like that [23:11:50] If it can be reproduced on a supported version, reopen the bug [23:12:25] * Aaron|home detects that Reedy is online and queues up the patch spam [23:12:54] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8046/ quickie [23:13:01] * Reedy glares at Aaron|home [23:13:42] and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8010/ :) [23:15:16] * Aaron|home innocently waves TimStarling [23:18:48] it's merged [23:21:07] TimStarling: OK, I think everything for you is already tagged for you [23:21:22] Reedy: so apparently Swift takes 15 seconds to list a few thumbnails ;) [23:21:35] * Aaron|home will have to talk to ben about this next week [23:22:06] The actual concurrent write part is fast [23:26:50] who is in charge of wikimedia irc server? [23:27:03] ops [23:28:21] i wonder if it's possible to create channel not for wiki [23:28:29] Reedy, how would I reproduce it, I don't even understand what's the problem [23:28:36] case sensitivity? [23:29:01] the ability to create channels is patched out [23:29:54] i know user can't, but must the channel be related to wiki only or it's created based on the domain when the first msg is sent? [23:30:17] = can there be channel for instance #noc.wikimedia or so? [23:30:53] why? :/ [23:31:14] Reedy: that's on nemo or on me? [23:31:21] you [23:31:30] * Nemo_bis feels ignored :p [23:31:51] I'm not chasing around bugs in old versions of mediawiki :p [23:32:06] I've got many other things I can be not doing [23:32:15] Reedy, but how can I check if it's in newer versions when I don't knwo what's the bug? [23:32:32] How do you know it is a bug then? [23:32:36] Reedy: well, first of all i'm checking if there is even possibility to have such channel for wikimedia domain but not wiki. noc was just an example - first domain which came into my mind [23:32:45] Reedy, I see that it doesn't work [23:33:24] Reedy, you say it's been fixed, this requires someone to know what's the origin of the problem; if I knew the origin I could look for it elsewhere [23:33:31] or maybe work around it [23:33:47] You know what it's apparently doing [23:33:54] try it somewhere else and see if the behaviour is the same [23:34:21] Danny_B|backup: we have irc.wikimedia.org for recent changes feeds, and freenode for everything else [23:34:22] there are several things which might cause it [23:34:33] the fact that irc.wikimedia.org only does one thing makes it simple and easy to maintain [23:34:50] in fact you can just set it up and forget about it for years [23:35:11] Reedy, I cannot randomly test all combinations of possible origins of problems on all possible wikis, this makes thousands tests :) [23:35:36] Indeed [23:35:49] As I said, I'm not chasing a bug in an unsupported version of mediawiki [23:36:00] Replicate it >= 1.17 and I will [23:36:06] Danny_B|backup: which other stuff were you thinking about in particular, there isn't many non wikis in the wmf space [23:36:37] i don't know how the patch works, so i originally expected something like if( iswikimediadomain( domain ) ) then if channel not created create; send msg. so any other service could send msgs [23:36:37] besides, noc itself is now in a public repo. Just follow that if you care [23:36:56] I have enough trouble trying to interest the ops team in fixing squid, which some might think is more important than adding features to irc.wikimedia.org [23:37:18] heh [23:37:44] i'm *just* asking about possibilities and how system works now, not asking for adding anything [23:37:56] All the code is public [23:37:59] knock yourself out ;) [23:38:13] Reedy: coming to berlin, right? [23:38:14] it works by allowing users with oper access to create channels [23:38:16] Ya [23:38:28] and only the RC user has oper access [23:39:00] TimStarling: thanks for explanation, that's basically the type of information i needed [23:53:53] it's so much fun when sysops delete my test cases