[02:21:31] <logmsgbot_>	 !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.19) at Thu Apr 19 02:21:31 UTC 2012
[02:21:35] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[02:22:49] <MBisanz>	 !joan
[02:22:57] <MBisanz>	 I just broke something
[02:23:10] <RD>	 You still break things?
[02:23:29] <MBisanz>	 yes, frequently
[02:24:33] <MBisanz>	 Request: POST http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RenameUser, from 69.255.116.4 via cp1014.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to 10.64.0.141 (10.64.0.141)
[02:24:33] <MBisanz>	 Error: ERR_READ_TIMEOUT, errno [No Error] at Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:23:15 GMT 
[02:25:00] <MBisanz>	 (del/undel) 02:23, April 19, 2012 MBisanz (talk | contribs | block) renamed User:Kumioko to "Kumioko (renamed)" (318,300 edits. Reason: Test) 
[02:25:25] <RD>	 Test being ... Shitton of edits/
[02:25:26] <RD>	 ?
[02:26:08] <MBisanz>	 RD: long story
[02:26:12] <MBisanz>	 but i'm sure i broke something
[02:29:48] <MBisanz>	 RD I locked enwiki...
[02:29:57] <MBisanz>	 werdna !dev
[02:30:33] <logmsgbot_>	 !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.20wmf1) at Thu Apr 19 02:30:33 UTC 2012
[02:30:36] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[02:30:40] <MBisanz>	 TimStarling 
[02:31:16] <Joan>	 MBisanz: You want #wikimedia-opeartions.
[02:31:23] <Joan>	 Err, #wikimedia-operations.
[02:31:29] <Joan>	 But I'm not sure you broke anything.
[02:31:32] <Joan>	 Seems fine to me.
[02:31:43] <Joan>	 Is something not loading for you?
[02:31:47] <RD>	 It's lagging
[02:31:49] <MBisanz>	 Joan: it's locked for editting
[02:32:06] <MBisanz>	 ok, unlocked
[02:32:39] <Joan>	 I see some watchlist lag.
[02:32:58] <Joan>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=dbrepllag&sishowalldb=
[02:33:11] <jeremyb>	 @replag
[02:33:14] <Joan>	 Not sure if you were the cause.
[02:34:10] <jeremyb>	 @replag all
[02:34:19] <Joan>	 jeremyb is broken.
[02:35:11] <jeremyb>	 @quit
[02:44:17] <MBisanz>	 jeremyb so now he wants to come back
[02:44:26] <MBisanz>	 so i moved his old account out of the way and he can register a new one
[02:44:34] <RD>	 should have said too bad :P
[02:44:39] <Joan>	 MBisanz: I think the limit is 1 million or something.
[02:44:45] <Joan>	 Wikimedia might have a different one than the default.
[02:44:47] <jeremyb>	 ahh
[02:44:54] <Joan>	 Maybe it's lower now.
[02:44:55] <Joan>	 Who knows.
[02:45:11] <jeremyb>	 definitely was 50k at one point (or well, 99% sure)
[02:45:25] <jeremyb>	 but i think i've also heard talk of that not being the latest value (before today)
[02:46:18] <Joan>	 > Remove the limit on edit count, it is unnecessary now that we have job queue support. Untested.
[02:46:27] <Joan>	 From March 2011.
[02:46:42] <Joan>	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Renameuser/Renameuser.php?r1=83040&r2=83494
[02:47:09] <Annabelle>	 well it didn't really break anything
[02:49:41] <MBisanz>	 Annabelle true
[02:50:36] <Annabelle>	 the servers were just like "whoa! ok, gimme a second"
[03:03:16] <Joan>	 Annabelle: Go on.
[03:04:38] <Annabelle>	 are you casting aspersions on the accuracy of my analogy?
[07:22:51] <AFBorchert>	 deleting at Commons is painful at the moment, many timeouts, partial deletions etc.
[07:23:24] <AFBorchert>	 Things like this: Request: POST http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&action=submit, from 78.43.93.68 via amssq38.esams.wikimedia.org (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to 91.198.174.48 (91.198.174.48)
[07:23:28] <AFBorchert>	 Error: ERR_READ_TIMEOUT, errno [No Error] at Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:22:52 GMT 
[07:26:00] <AFBorchert>	 In cases like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PROYECTO_BLUE_BEAM_DEVELADO-ARABE-.pdf I'm not able to get the file itself deleted, just its description. Even on the second attempt.
[11:38:15] <myrmex>	 hello?
[11:40:41] <Reedy>	 hi?
[11:41:10] <myrmex>	 hello, do you speak french? ^^
[11:42:18] <myrmex>	 I can not install a mediawiki
[11:42:26] <myrmex>	 the changelog:
[11:42:39] <myrmex>	 Vérifications liées à l’environnement 
[11:42:55] <myrmex>	 Votre système utilise une combinaison de versions de PHP et libxml2 qui est boguée et peut engendrer des corruptions cachées de données dans MediaWiki et d’autres applications web. Veuillez mettre à jour votre système vers PHP 5.2.9 ou plus récent et libxml2 2.7.3 ou plus récent (bogue déposé auprès de PHP). Installation interrompue. 
[11:43:39] <myrmex>	 L’environnement a été vérifié. 
[11:44:10] <myrmex>	 vous ne pouvez pas installer MediaWiki
[11:44:13] <myrmex>	 :/
[11:50:34] <Reedy>	 #mediawiki would be better
[11:51:59] <Reedy>	 hashar: ^ :p
[11:52:24] <hashar>	 oy men
[11:52:40] <hashar>	 Reedy: sounds like an issue I can not duck :-D
[11:53:02] <Reedy>	 It looks like PHP is "out of date"
[11:53:08] <hashar>	 Reedy: interestingly, I think I am the one that detected that issue in PHP  :-D
[11:53:09] <Reedy>	 due to libxml issues ;)
[11:53:20] <hashar>	 myrmex: je parle français oui :-D
[11:53:27] <hashar>	 myrmex: et je suis un des développeurs de MediaWiki
[11:53:28] <myrmex>	 cool :d
[11:53:50] <myrmex>	 j'ai un probleme j'arrive pas a installer le wiki sur mon site
[11:54:42] <myrmex>	 une solution?*
[11:54:57] <hashar>	 myrmex: oui il faut mettre à jour ton serveur :-D
[11:55:17] <myrmex>	 il est déjà à jour c'est le probleme
[11:55:25] <hashar>	 myrmex: quelle version de PHP as tu ? et quelle version de libxml2? 
[11:55:28] <myrmex>	 je suis chez ovh si ça aide
[11:55:33] <myrmex>	 je vais voir ça
[11:55:42] <hashar>	 phpinfo() devrais te donner ca
[11:56:44] <myrmex>	 mmm
[11:56:50] <myrmex>	 je trouve ça où dans le ftp?
[11:58:19] <hashar>	 le plus simple est de faire un fichier contenant:   <?php phpinfo();
[11:58:29] <hashar>	 et de l'envoyer sur ton site, par exemple sous le nom :  version.php
[11:58:39] <hashar>	 ensuite http://<ton serveur>/version.php
[11:58:54] <hashar>	 ça te donnera tout les informations sur PHP et libxml
[12:00:02] <myrmex>	 exactement ça: <?php phpinfo() ?
[12:00:17] <hashar>	 oui
[12:00:41] <hashar>	 myrmex: http://dpaste.org/gOey9/
[12:00:42] <hashar>	 ;)
[12:01:10] <myrmex>	 je met ça?
[12:03:07] <myrmex>	 j'ai créé le fichier avec le truc du lien
[12:03:12] <myrmex>	 je fait quoi ensuite
[12:03:23] <hashar>	 tu l'envois sur ton serveur :-D
[12:03:40] <hashar>	 avec un nom genre:   infophp.php
[12:03:58] <hashar>	 ça te permettra d'avoir la version PHP utilisée et celle de libxml2
[12:04:25] <myrmex>	 il est déjà sur mon ftp entant que fichier nommé phpinfo
[12:05:46] <myrmex>	 comment lire les informations maintenant? je suis un peu perdu ^^
[12:06:20] <hashar>	 il faut le nommer   phpinfo.php
[12:06:34] <hashar>	 ensuite tu vas sur ton serveur:  http:// …  /phpinfo.php
[12:07:43] <myrmex>	 http://lemyrmecophile.be/phpinfo.php
[12:07:49] <myrmex>	 ça me met que le lien est brisé
[12:09:02] <myrmex>	 que faire :/
[12:09:28] <myrmex>	 <?php   
[12:10:02] <myrmex>	 bug
[12:10:06] <myrmex>	 a nan c'est bon
[12:10:07] <myrmex>	 ^^
[12:10:24] <myrmex>	 c'est bien ce qui est dans le lien que tu m'a passer qu'il faut mettre dans le fichier?
[12:11:38] <hashar>	 vérifie que le fichier se nomme bien phpinfo.php dans le FTP
[12:11:55] <hashar>	 il doit être dans le même répertoire que index.html ou Equipe.php
[12:12:37] <hashar>	 (err  Equipe.html )
[12:15:29] <myrmex>	 il est bien sous le nom phpinfo.php et dans le repertoire avec index.html mais le lien est toujours brisé
[12:16:50] <hashar>	 ca marche
[12:16:57] <myrmex>	 non
[12:17:01] <hashar>	 myrmex: tu as php 5.3.10 ce qui est bien
[12:17:04] <hashar>	 http://lemyrmecophile.be/phpinfo.php
[12:17:06] <myrmex>	 a si x)
[12:17:28] <hashar>	 en revanche libxml2 est en 2.6.32 ce qui est vieux
[12:17:36] <myrmex>	 comment le mettre à jour?
[12:17:46] <hashar>	 en tout cas ça doit poser des problèmes de compatibilité avec PHP
[12:18:08] <hashar>	 a qui appartiens le serveur ? A toi ou à OVH ?
[12:18:15] <hashar>	 il faut le mettre à jour :-]
[12:18:18] <myrmex>	 ovh
[12:18:22] <myrmex>	 comment le mettre à jour?
[12:18:27] <myrmex>	 un lien?
[12:18:35] <hashar>	 aucune idée, il faut contacter ovh
[12:18:47] <myrmex>	 :x
[12:19:10] <myrmex>	 je ne sais pas le fondateur mais je suis le webmaster du site donc j'en informerais le fondateur...
[12:19:14] <myrmex>	 c'est chiant :/
[12:19:22] <hashar>	 myrmex: la dure vie de l'informatique :-D
[12:19:26] <hashar>	 myrmex: le bug PHP est http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=45996
[12:19:32] <myrmex>	 donc sans cette mise à jour je ne peux pas mettre mediawiki?
[12:19:46] <hashar>	 myrmex: à envoyer à OVH pour info
[12:20:02] <myrmex>	 comment ça
[12:20:08] <hashar>	 et non pas de mediawiki installable désolé :-(  ce bug nous pose problème 
[12:20:21] <myrmex>	 :/
[12:20:44] <myrmex>	 bin merci pour ton aide :) je peux voir ton e-mail au cas où j'ai besoin de te recontacter?
[12:21:09] <hashar>	 je ne lis pas mes mails
[12:21:15] <hashar>	 j'en reçois des centaines par jours :-D
[12:21:15] <myrmex>	 ok x)
[12:21:20] <hashar>	 le plus sur et de me contacter sur IRC
[12:21:26] <myrmex>	 t'es facilement joignable ici?
[12:21:37] <hashar>	 je suis ici de 9:30 à 18:30  et le soir par fois de 21:00 à 23:00
[12:21:41] <hashar>	 donc oui ici :-D
[12:21:49] <hashar>	 Reedy: so that PHP / libxml2 issue is funny
[12:21:50] <myrmex>	 ok merci hashar =)
[12:22:05] <myrmex>	 bonne continuation
[12:22:13] <hashar>	 Reedy: it looks like it is caused by   libxml2 2.7.x branch. It might work though with 2.6.x
[12:22:39] <hashar>	 Reedy: but I guess it is safer to just ask everyone to upgrade to libxml2 2.7 anyway
[12:23:00] <Reedy>	 If it's readily available
[12:23:34] <hashar>	 oh  2.6.32 will not work anyway
[12:23:42] <myrmex>	 à l'occasion si vous pouvez faire une version pour ma version de libxml2 ça serais cool xD
[12:23:52] <hashar>	 our installer actually try to reproduce the bug and bail out whenever the bug is triggered :-]]]
[12:24:02] <hashar>	 that is a clever work, much better than just checking the lib version
[12:24:04] <hashar>	 \o/
[12:24:10] <hashar>	 ^demon : you are a hero
[12:24:20] <Reedy>	 2.6.32? It sounds like a linux kernel
[12:24:42] <hashar>	 that is libxml2
[12:24:51] <hashar>	 myrmex: ça n'est pas possible :-(
[12:24:59] <hashar>	 myrmex: c'est un problème avec PHP :-D
[12:25:10] <myrmex>	 ok x)
[12:25:11] <hashar>	 myrmex: bref OVH pourra très certainement réparer tout ça.
[12:25:19] <myrmex>	 ok je vais les contacter :)
[12:25:21] <myrmex>	 bye
[12:25:27] <myrmex>	 merci pour tout :)
[12:25:33] <hashar>	 myrmex: sinon il faut leur dire: Wikipedia va passer à un coup de fil à Octave :-]]]]]
[12:25:38] <hashar>	 ++
[12:25:45] <myrmex>	 octave?
[12:25:54] <hashar>	 le directeur technique d'OVH :-D
[12:26:08] <saper>	 a founder
[12:26:16] <myrmex>	 ok mdr, on vois là les administrateurs des plus gros reseaux mondiaux ;p
[12:26:27] <myrmex>	 ++
[12:26:32] <hashar>	 saper: I think Octave cofounded OVH with his father
[12:28:18] <saper>	 yeah something like that
[12:28:31] <saper>	 "oles" :)
[12:28:41] <saper>	 or oleś most probably
[12:30:36] * Merlissimo  wonders my his bot gets so many bad token responses on zhwiki api edit requests (other wikis are ok)

[12:31:50] <hashar>	 saper: it is an amazing company anyway.  I actually wanted to apply there but my wife would had have a hard time finding a job in that part of France :D
[12:35:55] <saper>	 hashar: I heard the  family left Poland for France in 1989 so we still get very good support directly from him in Polish :)
[12:36:23] <saper>	 hashar: where's their hq? Roubaix?
[12:36:26] <hashar>	 yup
[12:36:31] <hashar>	 north of France near Lille
[12:36:34] <hashar>	 which is an amazing city
[12:38:58] <saper>	 ah
[12:39:07] <saper>	 so actually you can work in Brussels :)
[13:11:49] <hashar>	 saper: we could switch to Brussels or Luxembourg :D
[13:12:12] <hashar>	 saper: but Nantes (my city) is on the Atlantic ocean which is way better than the channel  or north sea :-)))
[13:13:52] <p858snake|l>	 Merlissimo: has it only started happening recently? zhwiki is still on 1.19 and there hasn't been that many changes pushed to that I believe
[13:19:38] <Merlissimo>	 p858snake|l: yes. In the past and on other wiki i am getting about less than 1% badtoken:Invalid token responses (then my bot rerequests an edit token and tries again). On zhwiki it about 10%-15% today
[13:21:02] <Merlissimo>	 it seems that the livetime of a token is very short.
[13:22:05] <p858snake|l>	 That should the same length for every wiki, and nothing thats been pushed sounds like it would break that type of stuff: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?path=%2Fbranches%2Fwmf%2F1.19wmf1%2F&title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki
[13:22:14] <p858snake|l>	 Merlissimo: can you file a ticket in Bz please?
[13:23:35] <Merlissimo>	 is update to 1.20 already planned? If so i can wait an check if the problem still exists after mw 1.20 update.
[17:52:59] <RoanKattouw>	 !log Running schema changes for AFTv5 on testwiki
[17:53:01] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Mr. Obvious
[18:50:45] <logmsgbot_>	 !log catrope synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php  'Set wmgArticleFeedbackv5OversightEmails for enwiki'
[18:50:47] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[19:29:48] <RoanKattouw>	 !log Running scap to deploy AFTv5 updates, and running AFTv5 schema changes on enwiki at the same time
[19:29:51] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Mr. Obvious
[19:34:32] <Tpt>	 The version of the ProofreadPages extension currently deployed on Wikisource (1.20-wmf1) has a critical bugs that break a lot of pages : https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36093
[19:34:34] <Tpt>	 A patch have been merge with trunk : https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,5317
[19:34:36] <Tpt>	 Is it possible to deploy it before the 1.20-wmf2 deployment ?
[19:34:44] <logmsgbot_>	 !log catrope synchronizing Wikimedia installation... : ArticleFeedbackv5 updates
[19:34:46] <RoanKattouw>	 Tpt: It's being deployed as we spaek
[19:34:46] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[19:35:06] <RoanKattouw>	 Like literally :) it's in the sync logmsgbot_ just reported
[19:35:11] <Tpt>	 RoanKattouw: Thanks a lot !
[19:35:16] <RoanKattouw>	 So hang on for another 15 mins or so and it'll be live
[19:48:35] <chrismcmahon>	 I've spent a fair amount of time in ProofreadPages yesterday and today, just didn't happen to encounter any with tosection/fromsection in them :(  now I know.
[20:07:52] <RoanKattouw>	 AaronSchulz: Back now, what do you need?
[20:09:04] <AaronSchulz>	 hold on
[21:01:23] <logmsgbot_>	 !log catrope synchronizing Wikimedia installation... : Running scap again, AFTv5 is acting up
[21:01:26] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[21:03:56] <RoanKattouw>	 !log Scap is broken in some weird way, it just stops running after the scap1-skins step. Doesn't run scap-1 (which does the actual sync), doesn't log "sync done", doesn't update graphite
[21:03:58] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Mr. Obvious
[21:13:41] <Mardetanha>	 I need someone with shell access, is there anyone around ?
[21:16:42] * AaronSchulz  pesters RoanKattouw about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114955

[21:19:08] <RoanKattouw>	 AaronSchulz: What's up?
[21:19:11] <RoanKattouw>	 Mardetanha: What do you need?
[21:19:30] <AaronSchulz>	 fixme, that's all ;)
[21:19:43] <RoanKattouw>	 I fixed that, didn't I?
[21:19:47] * AaronSchulz  is checking if MULTIVER_CDB_DIR_HOME is used in all places

[21:19:47] <RoanKattouw>	 Wait, I didn't?
[21:20:07] <RoanKattouw>	 AaronSchulz: Aah, off-by-one error in my commit msg.
[21:20:13] <RoanKattouw>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114959
[21:20:23] <RoanKattouw>	 Ooh, crap, different fixme
[21:20:26] <RoanKattouw>	 OK ignore what I said
[21:20:33] * AaronSchulz  wants to move it to a dir with git

[21:20:40] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah me too
[21:20:50] <AaronSchulz>	 want to double check it to?
[21:21:07] <AaronSchulz>	 as long as all references to wikiversions.dat are using that constant it should be  easy
[21:21:09] <RoanKattouw>	 OK so yeah the delete script should probably 1) delete the symlinks, 2) delete the dir if empty, 3) yell at you if not empty
[21:21:38] <Mardetanha>	 RoanKattouw: you got a pm 
[21:32:05] <mpeel>	 Hi all. Could anyone help with the question of who's moderating https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaie ? There doesn't appear to be any list of moderators available via mailman...
[21:33:45] <Platonides>	 mpeel, I'd ask Cary Bass
[21:33:57] <Platonides>	 it's llikely him who setup that list
[21:35:01] <mpeel>	 thanks Platonides - that does sound like it would have been the case… he's not available via IRC at the moment, is he?
[21:36:38] <Thehelpfulone>	 not been online for the last 6 days mpeel 
[21:36:44] <Thehelpfulone>	 emailing would probably be best
[21:38:23] <Thehelpfulone>	 RoanKattouw: was a new namespace added to meta in the upgrade?
[21:38:27] <mpeel>	 ok, will do, thanks Thehelpfulone.
[21:38:33] <Thehelpfulone>	 no problem
[21:38:42] <Thehelpfulone>	 we've got one for Participation and Participation talk: that didn't exist a month ago
[21:39:26] <Thehelpfulone>	 or AaronSchulz, might know as well - I think you were part of the the upgrading?
[21:40:20] <RoanKattouw>	 Hmm, maybe it belongs to an extension?
[21:40:37] * AaronSchulz  shrugs

[21:40:43] * RoanKattouw  greps

[21:41:52] <AaronSchulz>	 grep seems to work better than shrugging
[21:42:13] <RoanKattouw>	 Can't find it in core/extensions
[21:42:23] <vvv>	 What namespace?
[21:42:45] <RoanKattouw>	   [204]=>
[21:42:46] <RoanKattouw>	   string(13) "Participation"
[21:42:48] <RoanKattouw>	   [205]=>
[21:42:50] <RoanKattouw>	   string(18) "Participation_talk"
[21:43:07] <vvv>	 Well, it's in InitialiseSettings.php
[21:43:18] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah found it
[21:43:21] <RoanKattouw>	 Now let's svn blame it
[21:43:36] <vvv>	 Wow, you actually store that stuff nowadays in SVN?
[21:43:42] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah for a long time
[21:43:46] <RoanKattouw>	 We want to move it to git
[21:43:49] <RoanKattouw>	 It's in a private SVN repo now
[21:43:52] <vvv>	 Why isn't it public then?
[21:43:56] <vvv>	 Private stuff?
[21:44:02] <RoanKattouw>	 Because PrivateSettings.php is in the same repo, in the same dir
[21:44:18] <RoanKattouw>	 I want this to be a public git repo, managed in Gerrit
[21:44:23] <vvv>	 And it has stuff like DB info and site token?
[21:44:25] <RoanKattouw>	 So that random people can just submit stuff to it
[21:44:34] <RoanKattouw>	 Yes, PrivateSettings has all sorts of scary stuff like that
[21:44:58] <vvv>	 RoanKattouw: it would still need something to update scripts among the servers
[21:45:08] <Gandalf>	 Hi all
[21:45:08] <Thehelpfulone>	 so how did it get there and is it on other wikis that need for it to be removed?
[21:45:20] <RoanKattouw>	 Let's see, DB password, $wgSecretKey, $wgProxyKey, secret for generating captchas, Swift passwords
[21:45:36] <RoanKattouw>	 Thehelpfulone: I'm running a "how did it get there" query but it's still running
[21:45:42] <Gandalf>	 I have a very simple question. I'm looking for your MySQL architecture. Are you using a single master and multiple slavaes?
[21:45:44] <Thehelpfulone>	 hehe
[21:45:46] <RoanKattouw>	 It's examining a 10k-line file with a couple years of history, it takes a while
[21:46:02] <RoanKattouw>	 Gandalf: noc.wikimedia.org/dbtree
[21:46:03] <Thehelpfulone>	 RoanKattouw: it only came in within the last month
[21:46:05] <vvv>	 RoanKattouw: btw, OpenGrok does stuff like that surprisingly fast
[21:46:05] <RoanKattouw>	 Ah, oops
[21:46:13] <RoanKattouw>	 Gandalf: http://noc.wikimedia.org/dbtree
[21:46:13] <Thehelpfulone>	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Proposal_to_clean_Meta-Wiki_namespaces shows that it didn't exist before then
[21:46:23] <Thehelpfulone>	 expand the hidden content
[21:46:32] <RoanKattouw>	  3128      reedy               205 => 'Participation_talk',
[21:46:45] <RoanKattouw>	 r3128 | reedy | 2012-03-29 13:17:39 +0000 (Thu, 29 Mar 2012) | 2 lines
[21:46:47] <RoanKattouw>	 Add participation namespace to metawiki per request
[21:46:58] <vvv>	 March 29
[21:47:05] <RoanKattouw>	 "per request"
[21:47:06] <Gandalf>	 Great! So,"cluster" is the master and "s1", "s2" and so on are the slaves?
[21:47:18] <RoanKattouw>	 Gandalf: No, s1 and s2 are masters serving separate sets of DBs
[21:47:21] <Thehelpfulone>	 heh very helpful 
[21:47:40] <Gandalf>	 ok, and db38 under s1?
[21:48:43] <RoanKattouw>	 db38 is the master
[21:48:52] <RoanKattouw>	 db36, db32, db52 and db12 are slaves
[21:49:07] <RoanKattouw>	 db1017 is a slave to db38, but it is also the master to db1033, db1043, db1047 and db42
[21:49:31] <RoanKattouw>	 Because we're doing cross-datacenter replication. All numbers above 1000 are in the Virginia datacenters, all the lower numbers are in Tampa
[21:50:29] <vvv>	 If there's a shell request marked as fixed, but it is not actually fixed, what shall I do?
[21:50:45] <Gandalf>	 Thank you. Now it's clear
[21:50:56] <Gandalf>	 How many queries are you able to manage with a single master?
[21:52:40] <Thehelpfulone>	 reopen it vvv?
[21:52:58] <vvv>	 I think I'll go the easier way
[21:53:00] <vvv>	 Reedy: ping
[21:53:06] <Thehelpfulone>	 heh
[21:53:21] <Thehelpfulone>	 when you find him ask him to ping me too please
[21:53:36] <vvv>	 Reedy: you've closed the request to enable FlaggedRevs on uk.wikipedia without really enabling it
[21:56:26] <Gandalf>	 are you using plain mysql replication or some open source apps to manage cluster?
[21:57:18] <vvv>	 Gandalf: pupper
[21:57:21] <vvv>	 *puppet
[21:58:18] <vvv>	 Gandalf: it's all in public: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/puppet.git;a=tree;h=HEAD;hb=HEAD
[21:59:08] <Gandalf>	 thank you
[21:59:30] <Gandalf>	 I have a big project and I'm trying to understand how big-players are managing mysql infrastructure
[22:08:36] <Gandalf>	 as far as i know, pupput is used to manage server configuration ,but how do you remove a failed slave? also with puppet?
[22:11:41] <vvv>	 Gandalf: DB configuration listing is in PHP config file AFAIK: http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=db.php
[22:32:18] <enomil>	 can someone check if this is still active: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27516 (we have problems with that but the extension code looks good)
[23:13:09] <Thehelpfulone>	 does anyone know what Remove groups: parseinline is?
[23:13:47] <Thehelpfulone>	 maybe a wmf 1.20 bug actually
[23:13:51] <Thehelpfulone>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights
[23:13:59] <Thehelpfulone>	 RoanKattouw ^
[23:14:17] <Thehelpfulone>	 sorry you're my guinea pig, I don't know who else to ping ;)
[23:15:25] <Thehelpfulone>	 although.. TimStarling do you know who's best to poke about the wmf 1.20 upgrade?
[23:15:37] <RoanKattouw>	 That sounds like a bug yeah
[23:15:39] <Thehelpfulone>	 see above, I've found a bug
[23:15:45] <RoanKattouw>	 Thehelpfulone: File it in Bugzilla
[23:16:09] <Thehelpfulone>	 1.20wmf is not an option https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki
[23:16:21] <Thehelpfulone>	 Oh I'll put it in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia
[23:16:31] <RoanKattouw>	 No, put it in MediaWiki under 1.20-git
[23:17:19] <Thehelpfulone>	 ok
[23:19:31] <Thehelpfulone>	 done Roan ,https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36113
[23:19:59] <RoanKattouw>	 Thanks
[23:20:33] <Thehelpfulone>	 np