[01:17:48] gn8 folks [01:39:24] !log preilly synchronized php-1.19/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php 'changes for zero needed for carrier testing header of landing page only for mswiki' [01:39:27] Logged the message, Master [01:50:50] !log aaron synchronized php-1.19/includes/filerepo/backend/FileOp.php 'deployed r114697' [01:50:52] Logged the message, Master [02:19:03] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.19) at Wed Apr 4 02:19:03 UTC 2012 [02:19:05] Logged the message, Master [06:05:14] hi [06:07:37] i have few doubts abt saving logs of IRCs. [06:07:45] could anyone help? [06:11:15] some channels have a logging policy [06:14:45] my qn is: if I want to remove the quotes like ABC joined, XYZ left, etc. how do i do that? [06:17:33] you could do it in any number of ways [06:19:09] the easiest just depends on which programming language you know [06:19:26] if you don't know any then the easiest way is to learn one [07:18:33] i don't know any programming language :( [07:18:42] is there a simpler way? [07:45:04] hello sir, I need help [07:50:20] hi [07:51:00] hi [07:51:01] if I want to remove the quotes like ABC joined, XYZ left, etc. how do i do that? [07:51:31] can anyone help me? [07:53:27] I cannot verify my username, please help [07:55:43] subha: Study some perl books ;) [07:59:40] :(\ [08:01:22] if you give me a file, I could write a perl script which deletes the lines which you don't want to have in the logs... [08:02:48] sure, i will do that.. [08:37:21] ahhh bits slowness may explain the really weird css issues I'm seeing [08:37:43] though the blue background is…. od [08:37:58] ah wait [08:38:00] blue background? [08:38:35] I can't replicate it FF but yeah.. on chrome I'm getting a blue background.. the color of what would normally be the vector outlines I think [08:38:38] I have a report of that from another user, it's been going on or some days [08:38:47] can you describe what part of the screen it affects? [08:39:03] also please see if you have that across the projects [08:40:08] I can take a bunch of screen shots if you want it's a bit different on different pages some much worse then others. The interface is screwy at the same time though (the tabs are all messed up too) [08:40:43] how about two respresentative screen shots? [08:40:46] sure [08:43:17] apergos: it seems to be that the body background is the color. If you have other segments laid on top of it they will show as expected (for example a template or the TOS) but not text laid on to the page itself. For example on the main page you see all the featured items as expected just with blue on the borders of the body(no blue on the sidebar) but then once you get to 'Other areas of Wikipedia' and the sister projects the text is on to [08:43:18] the blue. [08:43:38] and on the talk page you see the TOS and the top template but all of the discussion is over blue [08:43:42] not the sidebar, just the main area [08:43:48] I'm beginning to get a picture [08:44:06] and it doesn't happen in ff, only chrome [08:44:17] yup at least on my end [08:44:22] are you logged in? [08:46:18] I am not, but I can test that if you'd like [08:47:26] sure [08:47:45] where do you want the screenshots put? [08:48:10] good q [08:48:21] bugzilla I guess. [08:48:33] then they don't go away [08:48:35] logging in has no effect but If I force to mono book it fixes the issue [08:48:41] (so looks to be vector specific ) [08:48:51] hmm [08:48:55] [18:37] though the blue background is…. od chrome bug [08:49:00] give me a url? [08:49:25] ah it this a known chrome issue? [08:49:29] *is this [08:49:45] that indeed does fix it, it doesn't actually zoom out anymore (I was all the way out) but it did clear the blue [08:49:56] p858snake|l: is there a bug already? [08:50:05] yes [08:50:06] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34551 [08:50:13] also upstream where the issue is [08:50:31] wow [08:52:23] * Jamesofur blames it on us using that darned border pixel image (which I've always found annoying ;) ) [08:53:44] Jamesofur: Dantman is of the same view [08:54:53] of course half of the upstream bug is saying "Not our problem fix your shit wikipedia" [08:55:07] (ok not half, most of it is just saying 'me to' but of people other then that) [08:59:44] ;p; [09:00:10] When you have 5k of patches in your bugtracker as 'sent to upstream, waiting merge' then you get a lot of screw you going on :D [12:56:32] do we have extra restrivtions on file titles besides wgLegalTitleChars? (before I go hunt through the code) [12:58:19] <^demon> apergos: Filesystem restrictions like / and such? I dunno offhand. [13:00:49] rats [13:01:11] motivation: I'm going to chrun out lists of 'files in use pn project X but actually hosted on commons' [13:01:29] I have to lose a lot of crap that's just bad [[File:...]] links that lead nowhere [13:01:41] a lot of those I could weed out by looking at bad titles I bet [13:01:55] all right I'll poke around in a bit [13:02:03] <^demon> You could do something (simply) like (imagelinks - page[namespace=NS_FILE]) [13:03:30] I can't [13:03:41] file description pages are there only for locally uploaded files [13:03:57] I want the files that aren't locally uploaded but are in use on project X [13:04:39] see, a downloader should be able to pick up two tarballs, 1 = locally uploaded images, 2 = the rest of the images needed for the project, stolen from commons [13:04:45] <^demon> Right. Imagelinks is all [[File:]] links, local or shared repo. [13:04:55] yes [13:05:02] <^demon> So if you did imagelinks - page[namespace=NS_FILE], you'd end up with the imagelinks to commons. [13:05:09] no [13:05:22] I wind up with things that are on commons and with garbage that doesn't exist [13:05:34] it's the garbage that doesn't exist that I want to weed out [13:06:02] any kind of crap you put in a [[File:]] winds up in the table... [13:06:21] there's tones of http://blahblah for example. [13:06:24] *tons [13:06:30] <^demon> [[File:Non-existent]] still goes in imagelinks? [13:06:32] <^demon> *facepalm* [13:06:37] of course it does [13:06:57] what is it supposed to do, check to see if the file exists on commons for every page render? [13:07:24] <^demon> I thought entries were only added if $file->exists() [13:07:28] by render I mean of course [13:07:36] what the jobs table does every time a templalte is updated [13:07:56] job runners [13:08:04] gah I cannot type what I think to save my life today [13:08:06] apergos: wouldn't globalusage get you what you want? [13:08:19] I don't have a lot of faith in the global usage stuff actually [13:08:28] I hage slightly more in the per project links table [13:08:31] *have [15:10:00] Is it possibly a problem that there are two user accounts for Yoni Shostak in Wikimedia Labs? "Yoni Shostak" and "Yoni OmniTI" [15:16:57] Hmm that's weird [15:17:01] I wonder which one he uses [15:17:25] sumanah: He'll be in -dev around 1pm your time today, I'll ask him then [15:17:31] ok, thanks RoanKattouw [15:30:40] !log py synchronized wmf-config/lucene.php 'pointing eswiki search at lvs pool in eqiad for live testing' [15:30:42] Logged the message, Master [15:43:13] hi. sorry for being offtopic, but does Wikimedia sollicit hardware donations, and if so, where does it do that? [15:44:54] chealer: I think it's the other way around: http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/hardware/ [15:47:20] saper: right, I saw that, which surprised me a bit. I was thinking Wikimedia could sollicit donations of new hardware from hardware companies [15:47:56] (and then perhaps give them away when they're out of warranty / replaced) [15:48:01] thanks though [15:48:17] I don't know that [15:48:25] I guess new hardware can be donated [15:48:30] <^demon> I don't think we actively seek out hardware donations. But we have accepted them from time to time. [15:49:16] Hiay [15:49:19] hiya even [15:49:54] chealer: We do accept donations of new hardware, as long as they fall under the usual, we need to be able to disclose it for tax purposes and the like, as well as the hardware needs to be in scope for our needs and new, under warranty stuff [15:50:31] Myself, mark, and CT Woo tend to be involved in those discussions, as we are the procurement team for WMF [15:51:05] We do not really openly solicit though, but we have gotten a few donations in the past [15:51:23] before Oracle purchased Sun, Sun did some donations to us, as well as Cisco recently did so as well. [15:51:48] though over 90% of our infrastructure is merely purchased, rather than donated. [15:52:19] but if you have anything you would like to discuss in a lot of detail you can of course email me (rob at wikimedia dot org) [15:53:40] we have also gotten in kind donation during normal hardware purchases, like vendors tossing in extra support equipment and the like. [15:53:49] ^demon: right... thank you [15:54:10] rob-(ing)-hood. [15:54:21] :P [15:54:28] rob-(in)-hood ;] [15:54:43] though like that i see myself dressed thug style throwing up gang signs [15:54:55] westsiiiide. [15:55:24] Tupac!!! [15:55:29] chealer: and when hardware does go out of warranty, we don't automatically trash it, but eventually it reaches end of life for us [15:55:40] usually when the new stuff takes up half the power, has double the specs, etc. [15:55:58] then we open up an email account in our RT system and do a blog posting for deserving nonprofits to submit for hardware donation [15:56:06] and we then parcel those servers out to them [15:56:24] though we have to be selective, only give to registered nonprofits that have goals that are in alignment with our own [15:56:47] basically anyone we donate to needs to be reasonably close enough to what we do that the folks who donated money or hardware in the past wouldn't be upset about it [15:57:07] RobH: this is exactly the information I was looking for (as a contributor to another non-profit IT-intense project). [15:57:46] sorry again for disturbing and thanks to everyone for your answers [15:57:56] not disturbing at all =] [15:58:04] glad to answer the questions [15:58:18] would make a nice blog post ;) [15:58:44] ^ [15:58:46] the decommission donation to other nonprofits comes up about once a year on blogs [15:58:52] as we cycle though end of life hardware [15:58:57] yeah I liked that [15:59:01] the donating hardware to us one woudl indeed make a nice blog posting [15:59:23] but it goes on my list behind the 'post all the cool photos and info on our datacneter deployments' blog posting that I have been thinking about doing for awhile ;] [15:59:32] I guess full 42U donations would be the best [15:59:55] Sun used to have nice, expensive racks [16:00:05] RIP [16:00:13] well, we have the racks already [16:00:20] so donation of an actual physical rack with hardware would be hard [16:00:27] best to just get a donation of servers to fill racks. [16:00:42] same holds true for networking, we are primarily a juniper shop right now [16:00:51] so mixing network infrastructure is undesirable [16:00:59] definitely [16:01:16] <^demon> And those racks even have power now ;-) [16:01:29] right now our standard rack setup is 47U rittal ts8 enclosure, dual 208V 3phase 30amp power using servertech pdus, and juniper networking. [16:01:45] the smart, not switched, servertech pdus. [16:01:47] when I did data center cooridination long time ago it was annoying to have so different stuff [16:02:08] we have the annoying task of 30amp in 2 of our 3 US based deployments [16:02:11] and 20amp in the one [16:02:21] its annoying to take in to account, and its a small variation. [16:03:41] we used to have standard 125V 20Amp power in that one off deployment [16:03:46] atleast now its 3phase 208V [16:04:47] next to my racks I had a huge 48 x 1V battery unit :) [16:04:49] this is what we have in our ashburn facility http://www.servertech.com/products/smart-pdus/smart-pdu-cs-84vdd-vdy-3ph [16:05:08] all of our datacenter providers handle delivery of clean power to the rack level, meaning to the plugs those jack into [16:05:22] so we dont have to worry about battery versus normal power, etc... [16:05:52] the dell servers we use in most the racks now can fill a 47u rack and be under the 80% capacity for the power circuits. [16:06:00] its kinda nuts how power efficient stuff is getting. [16:06:10] is one using serial interfaces those days at all? [16:06:25] the servers either have a deidcated DRAC or IPMI port [16:06:38] we have serial consoles (opengear) run to all network kit, plus all power kit [16:06:42] yeah this is standard since > ~10 years already [16:06:45] even though those all also have a lan mgmt port [16:07:22] so servers have dedicated network mgmt, but not dedicated serial mgmt [16:09:49] though all of those servers route their consoles via the internal serial port to the mgmt lan interface. [16:09:54] makes perfect sense [16:10:03] we don't make use of any kind of remote kvm [16:10:45] if serial is working and it's not windows, that's enough [16:11:03] yea, no windows in the datacenter [16:11:08] right now 99% ubuntu [16:11:16] we have two solaris servers left. [16:11:26] good ol' Solaris [16:11:36] my first Unix, I think it was 2.3 [16:11:39] and of course the foundry stuff runs foundry, and the juniper runs junos [16:11:48] but both of those are BDS based \o/ [16:11:53] is it still FreeBSD? [16:11:59] bsd even [16:12:05] junos barely pretends [16:12:11] indeed, just its very kernel [16:12:15] and its not free =[ [16:12:33] it used to be FreeBSD long time ago when I played with M160 or something [16:12:35] there just doesn't seem to be an actual viable open source routing OS alternative [16:12:45] since all networking kit tends to be so vendor specific [16:13:03] it's funny how it uses ethernet interface (fxp1) to talk to ASIC part [16:13:08] anyone suggesting monowall will be taken out back, placed in the corn crib, and old yellared [16:14:03] hah [16:16:44] our opengear serial stuff is open source based [16:16:48] which is warm and fuzzy. [16:17:07] also more open standards than other serial stuff [16:18:18] foundry is not fbsd based [16:19:19] good thing we getting rid of them then! ;] [17:08:29] !log Applying AFTv5 schema change on testwik [17:08:31] Logged the message, Mr. Obvious [17:38:07] !log asher synchronized wmf-config/db.php 'returning db52, pulling db53' [17:38:09] Logged the message, Master [17:55:20] !log Running AFTv5 schema changes on enwiki [17:55:22] Logged the message, Mr. Obvious [18:16:01] !log catrope synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Add wmgArticleFeedbackv5AbuseFiltering, enabled on testwiki only' [18:16:03] Logged the message, Master [18:16:27] !log catrope synchronized wmf-config/CommonSettings.php 'Add code for wmgArticleFeedbackv5AbuseFiltering' [18:16:29] Logged the message, Master [18:52:12] !log py synchronized wmf-config/lucene.php 'pointing ru, nl, pl, pt, zh, and sv search at lvs pool in eqiad for live testing' [18:52:14] Logged the message, Master [18:54:02] !log catrope synchronizing Wikimedia installation... : Deploying AFTv5 update [18:54:04] Logged the message, Master [19:06:36] sync done. [19:10:52] nighty ~ [19:12:54] !log catrope synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Enable wmgArticleFeedbackv5AbuseFiltering on enwiki' [19:12:56] Logged the message, Master [19:14:19] !log awjrichards synchronized php/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFrontend.body.php 'r114716' [19:14:20] Logged the message, Master [19:40:50] !log catrope synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Disable wmgArticleFeedbackv5AbuseFiltering on enwiki' [19:40:52] Logged the message, Master [19:44:38] !log catrope synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Enable wmgArticleFeedbackv5AbuseFiltering on enwiki' [19:44:40] Logged the message, Master [20:26:56] hi [20:27:22] looks like there is something wrong with special:nuke on pt.wikipedia [20:28:15] the log is duplicated http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chocolate_sem_pimenta&action=edit&redlink=1 [20:42:10] Teles: remove that page -> https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Nuke-defaultreason [20:46:20] Beau_, it works. Thank you :) [21:14:08] !log py synchronized wmf-config/lucene.php 'pointing de, fr, and ja search at lvs pool in eqiad for live testing' [21:14:10] Logged the message, Master [22:00:26] !log catrope synchronized php-1.19/extensions/ArticleFeedback 'r114717' [22:00:28] Logged the message, Master [22:11:19] quick question is there a 7z version of enwiki-latest-pages-articles.xml ? [22:14:33] !log py synchronized wmf-config/lucene.php 'pointing all search back to pmtpa' [22:14:35] Logged the message, Master [22:22:06] gn8 folks [22:50:59] Betacommand: If it's not in the dumps overview, then no [22:51:23] Krinkle: thanks [22:51:28] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20120403/ [22:51:36] there's a new round of dump in progress right now [22:52:14] Betacommand: where is 'enwiki-latest-pages-articles.xml' though? [22:52:31] ah http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/ [22:52:52] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/ [22:52:54] Betacommand: There is a enwiki-latest-pages-articles.xml.bz2 bz2 though [22:53:40] Krinkle: Im frugal and want the smallest file possible [22:54:04] 7z vs bz2 is about a 50% difference [22:55:30] Im running a test on the commons dump now to check [22:59:42] Betacommand: No need to convince me [22:59:51] I know 7z is smaller :) [23:00:20] Krinkle: I am about to send a email to the mailing list and am just crunching some numbers [23:00:35] ok [23:10:10] anyone know how to write a bot? [23:10:19] perhaps Betacommand [23:10:35] mono: define 'write' and 'bot' [23:10:39] mono: yes [23:11:28] mono: what do you need? [23:11:55] I need a bot to categorie say 400 images [23:12:01] *categorize [23:12:09] * mono gets a link [23:12:11] hi hoo [23:12:12] The Wikipedia iPhone app is listed as an update being available but when I go to download the update it says "The item you tried to buy is no longer available." Would y'all happen to know what's up with that, or should I ask somewhere else? [23:15:55] Betacommand: [23:17:03] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2011/Galleries/table [23:17:24] into http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2011/Galleries [23:17:34] the first hundred or so are done [23:18:44] mono: more detail is needed [23:19:50] mono: the /table page doesnt render for me [23:20:30] hmm. try again. [23:21:19] All of those pictures need to be categorized by topic. The topics are at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2011/Galleries under Galleries by categories [23:21:38] I was wondering if a bot could do that. [23:22:21] mono: how should a bot know which one it goes under? [23:22:45] mono: bots are not magical [23:22:57] the images themselves all seem to be in categories like "Featured pictures of mammals" [23:23:26] Would it be more work to do the bot or just sort it manually? [23:23:46] probably to create the bot [23:24:07] nvm then [23:27:44] So can anyone answer my question about the iPhone app? [23:27:59] Try #wikimedia-mobile Ks0stm [23:28:08] At least I think that's the mobile channel [23:28:35] It appears to be...thanks, didn't know about that channel