[00:45:22] zzzz [02:06:09] !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.18) at Sun Jan 29 02:06:09 UTC 2012 [02:06:12] Logged the message, Master [02:24:59] PROBLEM - Misc_Db_Lag on storage3 is CRITICAL: CHECK MySQL REPLICATION - lag - CRITICAL - Seconds_Behind_Master : 1865s [02:28:49] PROBLEM - MySQL replication status on storage3 is CRITICAL: CHECK MySQL REPLICATION - lag - CRITICAL - Seconds_Behind_Master : 2095s [02:40:19] RECOVERY - MySQL replication status on storage3 is OK: CHECK MySQL REPLICATION - lag - OK - Seconds_Behind_Master : 0s [02:47:39] RECOVERY - Misc_Db_Lag on storage3 is OK: CHECK MySQL REPLICATION - lag - OK - Seconds_Behind_Master : 3s [03:40:15] I start seeing unstyled doc again these days [03:40:18] what's wrong [03:41:35] RECOVERY - DPKG on db57 is OK: All packages OK [03:41:35] RECOVERY - DPKG on db56 is OK: All packages OK [03:41:45] RECOVERY - DPKG on db58 is OK: All packages OK [03:42:15] RECOVERY - DPKG on db55 is OK: All packages OK [04:19:28] RECOVERY - Disk space on es1004 is OK: DISK OK [04:21:08] RECOVERY - MySQL disk space on es1004 is OK: DISK OK [04:42:32] PROBLEM - MySQL slave status on es1004 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Slave running: expected Yes, got No [05:28:12] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on lvs1006 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [05:32:12] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on lvs1003 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [07:05:44] PROBLEM - Squid on brewster is CRITICAL: Connection refused [07:25:16] PROBLEM - LVS Lucene on search-pool2.svc.pmtpa.wmnet is CRITICAL: Connection timed out [07:29:06] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on knsq9 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [07:36:26] RECOVERY - LVS Lucene on search-pool2.svc.pmtpa.wmnet is OK: TCP OK - 8.992 second response time on port 8123 [07:46:16] PROBLEM - Lucene on search6 is CRITICAL: Connection timed out [08:10:36] PROBLEM - LVS Lucene on search-pool2.svc.pmtpa.wmnet is CRITICAL: Connection timed out [08:44:14] RECOVERY - LVS Lucene on search-pool2.svc.pmtpa.wmnet is OK: TCP OK - 0.004 second response time on port 8123 [08:47:14] RECOVERY - Lucene on search6 is OK: TCP OK - 0.003 second response time on port 8123 [09:50:27] PROBLEM - Disk space on es1004 is CRITICAL: DISK CRITICAL - free space: /a 430871 MB (3% inode=99%): [09:55:37] PROBLEM - MySQL disk space on es1004 is CRITICAL: DISK CRITICAL - free space: /a 392858 MB (3% inode=99%): [09:59:28] PROBLEM - Router interfaces on cr1-sdtpa is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: host 208.80.152.196, interfaces up: 76, down: 1, dormant: 0, excluded: 0, unused: 0BRxe-0/0/1: down - Core: cr1-eqiad:xe-5/2/1 (FPL/GBLX, CV71026) [10Gbps wave]BR [10:06:37] PROBLEM - Router interfaces on cr1-eqiad is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: host 208.80.154.196, interfaces up: 86, down: 1, dormant: 0, excluded: 0, unused: 0BRxe-5/2/1: down - Core: cr1-sdtpa:xe-0/0/1 (Level3/FPL, CV71026) {#2008} [10Gbps wave]BR [10:18:45] RECOVERY - Router interfaces on cr1-eqiad is OK: OK: host 208.80.154.196, interfaces up: 88, down: 0, dormant: 0, excluded: 0, unused: 0 [10:22:45] RECOVERY - Router interfaces on cr1-sdtpa is OK: OK: host 208.80.152.196, interfaces up: 78, down: 0, dormant: 0, excluded: 0, unused: 0 [11:05:35] RECOVERY - MySQL slave status on es1004 is OK: OK: [13:31:49] I want to upload a 246MB file to commons, how can I do this? [13:31:59] the limit is 100MB [13:33:21] ToAruShiroiNeko, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Server-side_upload [13:37:25] hmm [13:37:28] does Tfinc IRC? [13:38:11] why? [13:38:20] just follow the process [13:39:09] you want me to file multiple bug requests on bugzilla? [13:39:18] one is enough [13:39:25] Oh, I can bulk them [13:39:26] ok [13:39:28] grr, I'm getting sick of this Special:GlobalUsers bug [13:40:31] mmm also I do not believe I can host this file as I have no place to put it. [13:41:37] tfinc uses IRC, but not on Sundays, and he couldn't help you with a server-side upload request anyway [13:42:10] he is one of the three people listed and the one that seems most active [13:42:49] I guess there is no way to elevate my limit to 250mb temporarily then? [13:42:54] no [13:45:18] mail a usb drive to the datacenter ;) [13:47:12] ToAruShiroiNeko: Create an account on some free file sharing website and upload there, then pass the link to the bugzilla people [13:47:46] ToAruShiroiNeko: www.mediafire.com [13:48:08] no, it has a 200MB limit [13:48:17] ToAruShiroiNeko: why is a image 246MB in the first place? [13:49:11] oh, well that's dumb, it doesn't say that anywhere on the site [13:49:19] heh [13:49:23] some hidden points of the free plan [13:50:11] I could perhaps upload to a wikimedia server or something like that [13:50:13] See some websites here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_hosting_services [13:50:21] "unlimited! except not" [13:51:37] sure, but do you have any access there? [13:51:37] 4shared.com then [13:51:38] Platonides I was given access to dumps.wikimedia.org before briefly to download :/ [13:51:38] I dont know it is just an idea [13:51:38] 4shared.com however seems like what I am looking for [13:51:42] lol no [13:51:52] it says .2GB of upload file size limit [13:51:55] ToAruShiroiNeko: seriously, why is a image 246MB in the first place? [13:52:18] ToAruShiroiNeko, maybe to http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page ? [13:52:32] ToAruShiroiNeko, that links is broken [13:52:39] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34016 [13:52:59] try https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/System_administrators [13:53:43] or just file a bug [13:53:56] ToAruShiroiNeko: replied to your bugzilla "bug" [13:54:51] they can be ogv videos... [13:54:59] OK I am uploading it to 4shared.com [13:55:00] its a jpg [13:55:15] 16000x16000 pixels [13:55:26] how dafaq [13:55:49] Ok that makes more sense [13:56:00] Actually [13:56:19] split it into parts of lower resolutions [13:56:31] perhaps 4000x4000 parts? [13:56:50] I think paint can handle 4000x4000 images [13:57:11] I know it can't handle 16000x16000 images [13:57:47] why would I break it apart? [13:57:55] because 246MB images is a no-no for wikipedia articles [13:58:17] true [13:58:18] umm... [13:58:18] Perhaps a 5 or 10 MB picture, sure [13:58:21] and? [13:58:21] bites the server [13:58:28] Wikipedia automatically scales images [13:58:32] try converting it to PNG as well [13:58:49] actually, it's harder to scale a big png [13:58:51] png ends up larger I think [13:58:56] Platonides, but what if a user needs to view the full image? [13:58:59] a jpeg can be scaled progressively [13:59:18] LL2|JedIRC, he should use an appropiate viewer, obviously [13:59:24] yes, but a png won't havfe artifacts when scaled [13:59:33] And pngs are generally smaller [13:59:48] yes, except that a 1 MB PNg uncompresses to 1 GB [13:59:54] if it was originally a jpeg... [13:59:57] Platonides: I meant from the site itself, not on the computer [14:00:52] trying png as well [14:01:14] And another thing: if we did have that image on wp, that would be a massive 246MB download for each user that clicks the image to view full size [14:01:43] LL2|JedIRC I dont see that as a problem [14:02:02] What about dial-up users? [14:02:22] a dialup user would not be able to load 10mb eithe [14:02:23] People still use dial-up, so we should take into account them as well [14:02:35] sure. there is a lower resolution link [14:02:44] Yes, but 10MB is more acceptable [14:02:49] to you maybe [14:03:01] we could just limit uploads to 10mb then [14:03:22] Sure, I have a badass connection [14:03:26] then videos? [14:03:34] but I used to use dial-up [14:03:45] LL2|JedIRC tough luck bro :p [14:03:53] Remember that Wikipedia does not scale large images [14:03:59] Videos are probably the reason why the limit is 200MB [14:04:12] Limit isnt 200MB [14:04:16] It says "oh crap, this it too large" and renders an error message [14:04:32] yeah [14:04:47] vvv that is too bad [14:04:57] Limit is 100MB because it is imposed by HTTP iirc [14:05:45] would 100mb image work? [14:06:32] HTTP doesn't !"mpose" 100MB limit [14:06:43] but it isn't too much suitable for big files [14:06:51] I guess, but its not recommended [14:07:08] true [14:07:15] large files are rare [14:07:18] should be rare [14:07:28] I dont believe large files should be outlawed tho [14:08:19] still converting to PNG [14:08:22] this is taking a while [14:08:29] well, we don't need a 1000MB file, anyway, unless its a video and/or audio file [14:08:40] its a high res picture [14:08:41] *100MB [14:08:51] very high res [14:08:57] the file is well within project scope [14:09:45] well then scale it, and link to a non-scaled version in the image page [14:10:09] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Iridescent_Glory_of_Nearby_Helix_Nebula.jpg [14:10:29] did you upload that? [14:10:36] sure [14:10:46] I am trying to upload a better version [14:10:52] ok [14:10:54] 173mb for PNG so smaller. [14:11:18] see? [14:11:41] I vividly remember the same image rendering much larger in the past but clearly my memory is failing me [14:11:50] try compressing it a bit, I think the optimal compression level is 80% [14:11:57] Or possibly 90% [14:12:07] I forget what that one site said [14:12:14] I dont want to compress it as every pixel counts :/ [14:12:34] well then you probably aren't gonna get the file up [14:12:56] again: we aren't file hosters [14:13:01] sure he will [14:13:15] LL2|JedIRC if you dont want to help, thats fine. [14:13:28] platonides: where is he gonna put it up? [14:13:34] up my ass? :P [14:13:45] I do want to help [14:13:45] LL2|JedIRC I wouldnt corrupt my files like that [14:13:48] at Wikimedia servers? [14:13:49] :p [14:13:53] lol [14:14:18] the problem is when compressed massive pixels form [14:14:31] which doesnt take advantage of the massive resolution [14:14:36] well then scale and compress it [14:14:37] then its just a very blurry large image. [14:14:47] if I scale it, resolution is lost [14:14:59] if I compress it, detail is lost. [14:15:06] png is already lossless compression [14:15:13] uncompressed may be better with quality, but compressed is better on the servers, and better for dial-up users [14:15:21] Or any user, for that matter [14:16:07] well, go back to jpg and try compressing it [14:16:28] if the jpg compresses better, let me know [14:18:01] I wont be compressing it. [14:20:47] Well I see no point to wasting 246MB bandwidth [14:21:10] or 173MB bandwidth [14:22:13] what you see as "waste" is the point of wikimedia commons [14:23:09] do spare a thought for those donors of WMF [14:24:01] whom would benefit from the upload [14:25:02] donors dont want low quality images when higher quality is available [14:25:37] donors wouldn't want too high qualities too [14:25:49] which would result in server breakdown [14:26:02] of one upload? [14:26:03] and more money being wasted in fixing the servers [14:26:04] come on! [14:26:09] oh please [14:26:19] I wont please you. [14:26:21] look at the exponential graph [14:31:32] * ToAruShiroiNeko flips it upside down and panics [14:59:29] ToAruShiroiNeko: lol. Also, Hydriz has a point. [14:59:49] I don't know where that point is, because I can't see it, but he has one. [15:00:43] LL2|JedIRC I have more points: ....:::..::: [15:00:44] see? [15:00:52] you are overwhelmed by my points :p [15:01:26] Maybe, but I have knowledge of something that makes them worthless [15:01:39] they make no sense in the first place :P [15:03:22] so your points, or their lack thereof at this POINT, are fail [15:04:42] so ha [15:05:15] take that vipper--er, ToAruShiroiNeko [15:08:30] can we create a new Category ? Wikipedians_by_OS :D [15:10:11] or in wikipedians by software: wikipedians who use linux :) [15:10:41] oh sorry [15:10:47] wrong channel :( [15:23:43] tegra, anyway, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Linux_user_Wikimedians [15:38:45] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on lvs1006 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [15:42:55] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on lvs1003 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [16:34:26] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on brewster is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [17:39:38] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on knsq9 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [18:55:05] !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/extensions/SiteMatrix/SiteMatrix_body.php [18:55:08] Logged the message, Master [18:59:19] Reedy: Thx [19:58:19] Hello, in Wikisource fr many contributors are interested by the MoodBar extension. Is it technically possible to install it ? If yes, I will begin a straw polls on fr wikisource. [19:59:51] Tpt_: well, it looks like it was already enabled on other wikis: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32202 [20:00:21] Yeah [20:00:27] It can be installed anywhere with consensus [20:00:54] Thanks. I start the straw polls. [21:39:53] gmaxwell, consider this a nag about your array