[00:07:33] <Nemo_bis>	 brion, do you still need this? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Brion_VIBBER
[00:07:47] <brion>	 huh?
[00:07:58] <Nemo_bis>	 brion, sysop + crat
[00:08:10] <brion>	 what's that got to do with Special:Log?
[00:08:23] <Nemo_bis>	 brion, it's the first entry there :-p
[00:08:30] <brion>	 anyway don't really care. i can get any bits i need when i need em
[00:08:47] <Nemo_bis>	 I don't care either, just supposed you might have forgotten :)
[00:12:49] <Thehelpfulone>	 brion: you were remove from https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=System_administrators&diff=2229363&oldid=2229360 over a year ago - I imagine you have everything back now that you're back?
[00:12:54] <Thehelpfulone>	 removed*
[00:17:43] <petan>	 Thehelpfulone: brio n doesn't have shell, because he doesn't want it afaik
[00:17:52] <petan>	 so I don't see point in adding him there
[00:18:55] <RoanKattouw>	 That's correct, he doesn't have shell anymore and he doesn't want it back either
[00:19:10] <brion>	 yep i go to some trouble at times to make sure of that ;)
[00:19:11] <brion>	 in part i want to avoid taking easy shortcuts ;)
[00:19:22] <brion>	 if something's too hard to do without shell, it means we have a process to fix
[00:19:23] <petan>	 heh
[00:19:40] <petan>	 that makes sense
[00:19:55] <petan>	 actually that git repository for site config would be cool step
[00:20:34] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah, I want that
[00:20:43] <petan>	 :)
[00:21:07] <petan>	 that's probably reason why most of devs who have shell, need shell
[00:21:09] <RoanKattouw>	 It shouldn't be too hard actually
[00:21:16] <petan>	 otherwise it's only ops stuff
[00:21:31] * RoanKattouw  puts "wmf-config in git" on TODO list

[00:21:36] <RoanKattouw>	 Well, also to deploy the changes
[00:21:42] * petan  give Roan a cake for that

[00:21:44] <petan>	 *s
[00:21:45] <RoanKattouw>	 We don't want to do auto-deploy, we don't do that for puppet either
[00:21:58] <RoanKattouw>	 petan: I can't promise I'll get to it soon, but I have a lot of flights coming up so who knows
[00:22:07] <petan>	 sure, no hurry
[00:22:15] <petan>	 I just think a lot of people could benefit from that
[00:22:15] <RoanKattouw>	 This is probably a task that I need to be on line for a lot, though. Creating the git repo isn't hard, but migrating the cluster to it is
[00:22:19] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah, I know
[00:22:26] <RoanKattouw>	 I'm one of the people that would benefit actually
[00:22:32] <RoanKattouw>	 I do config changes fairly often
[00:22:34] <petan>	 :)
[00:22:46] <petan>	 btw is there cvs on cluster?
[00:22:51] <petan>	 some versioning
[00:23:11] <petan>	 probably stupid question
[00:23:20] <RoanKattouw>	 Hell no
[00:23:24] <petan>	 really?
[00:23:25] <petan>	 :o
[00:23:31] <RoanKattouw>	 I found RCS in the Squid config dir though :D
[00:23:36] <petan>	 heh
[00:29:59] <logmsgbot>	 !log preilly synchronized php-1.18/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/  'initial push of ZeroRatedMobileAccess extension'
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[01:10:32] <ctw2>	 woosters
[01:18:32] <preilly>	 !log only activate Zero Rated Mobile Access Extension for test wiki
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[02:04:40] <logmsgbot>	 !log LocalisationUpdate completed (1.18) at Wed Jan 11 02:04:39 UTC 2012
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[02:16:23] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Misc_Db_Lag on storage3 is CRITICAL: CHECK MySQL REPLICATION - lag - CRITICAL -  Seconds_Behind_Master : 1411s  
[02:20:03] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - MySQL replication status on storage3 is CRITICAL: CHECK MySQL REPLICATION - lag - CRITICAL -  Seconds_Behind_Master : 1631s  
[02:26:03] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - Misc_Db_Lag on storage3 is OK: CHECK MySQL REPLICATION - lag - OK -  Seconds_Behind_Master : 0s  
[02:29:43] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - MySQL replication status on storage3 is OK: CHECK MySQL REPLICATION - lag - OK -  Seconds_Behind_Master : 0s  
[02:41:54] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on db22 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours  
[04:15:16] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - Disk space on es1004 is OK: DISK OK  
[04:20:46] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - MySQL disk space on es1004 is OK: DISK OK  
[04:40:19] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - MySQL slave status on es1004 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Slave running: expected Yes, got No  
[06:00:43] <DarkoNeko>	 zzz
[09:53:53] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Disk space on es1004 is CRITICAL: DISK CRITICAL - free space: /a 447089 MB (3% inode=99%):  
[09:54:53] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - MySQL disk space on es1004 is CRITICAL: DISK CRITICAL - free space: /a 442063 MB (3% inode=99%):  
[10:16:53] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - MySQL slave status on es1004 is OK: OK:  
[12:15:33] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on srv272 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours  
[12:50:54] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on db22 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours  
[13:21:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Dzahn; "add the nagios apache site config as it is now and enable it" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1829
[13:21:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Dzahn; "now fix it,install star ssl cert,admin email,tabs,.." [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1830
[13:22:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1829
[13:26:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dzahn; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1829
[13:26:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Dzahn; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1829
[13:27:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dzahn; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1830
[13:27:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Dzahn; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1830
[13:47:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Dzahn; "special.cfg was removed a while ago, do not require it any longer, broken dep." [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1831
[13:47:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1831
[13:48:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dzahn; "Dependency File[/etc/nagios/special.cfg] has failures: true" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1831
[13:48:13] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Dzahn; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1831
[13:48:56] <Thogo>	 anything happening? Page loading and submitting is very slooooow atm.
[13:49:01] <Thogo>	 (hi all.)
[13:49:29] <apergos>	 hello and I haven't heard of anything impacting the servers
[13:49:54] <mutante>	 hi, didnt see anything special in monitoring 
[13:51:17] <apergos>	 search cluster has a pretty odd network graph
[13:51:20] <apergos>	 but that's abuot it
[13:51:55] <Thogo>	 hm...
[14:27:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dzahn; "just noticed this one when using SSL:" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1827
[14:28:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Catrope; "Yeah, SSL to the new Ganglia is broken, but that's not a regression cause SSL to the old Ganglia was..." [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1827
[14:28:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dzahn; "lol" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1826
[14:29:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Demon; "Looks AWESOME -> approved" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1826
[14:29:29] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Demon; [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1826
[14:50:25] <Thehelpfulone>	 petan: I saw your mailing list email on labs-l, I requested https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33644 yesterday
[14:58:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Use private key file which also contains the public SSL cert" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1832
[14:58:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1832
[14:58:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1832
[14:58:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1832
[15:03:51] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - HTTP on sodium is OK: HTTP OK HTTP/1.0 200 OK - 434 bytes in 0.053 seconds  
[15:19:41] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/includes/  'r108622'
[15:19:42] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[15:20:15] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/resources/mediawiki.action/  'r108622'
[15:20:17] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[15:22:11] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/extensions/ApiSandbox/  'r108623'
[15:22:12] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[15:22:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Add hold_domains class parameter for easier debugging" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1833
[15:22:55] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/  'r108623'
[15:22:57] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[15:23:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1833
[15:23:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1833
[15:23:35] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/extensions/CodeReview/  'r108623'
[15:23:40] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[15:26:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Hold all mails on sodium for testing" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1834
[15:26:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1834
[15:26:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1834
[15:26:38] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1834
[15:32:57] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/includes/  'r108625'
[15:32:59] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[15:33:16] <Thehelpfulone>	 ooh
[15:33:18] <Thehelpfulone>	 PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.18/includes/OutputPage.php line 2295: 
[15:33:20] <Thehelpfulone>	 Call to undefined method MediaWiki::getPerformedAction()
[15:33:26] <guillom>	 Right. This^
[15:33:35] <Saibo>	 yeayyeay: PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.18/includes/OutputPage.php line 2295:            Call to undefined method MediaWiki::getPerformedAction()     
[15:33:53] <Reedy>	 Yup
[15:33:54] <Reedy>	 Fixing
[15:33:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Puppetize htdigest file" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1835
[15:34:13] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/includes/  'revert r108625'
[15:34:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1835
[15:34:15] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[15:34:21] <Saibo>	 works
[15:34:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1835
[15:34:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1835
[15:38:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Fix private file path" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1836
[15:38:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1836
[15:38:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1836
[15:38:45] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1836
[15:39:16] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/includes/  'r108626'
[15:39:17] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[15:42:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Fix port 443 in use issue" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1837
[15:43:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1837
[15:43:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1837
[15:43:33] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1837
[15:50:45] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - HTTPS on sodium is OK: OK - Certificate will expire on 08/22/2015 22:23.  
[16:12:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Use a service IP for lists.wikimedia.org" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1838
[16:13:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1838
[16:13:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1838
[16:23:00] <Saibo>	 in case i am not the only one: navpopups is very slow for me (at Commons)..  API?
[16:23:51] <Saibo>	 (that slow that I don't wait until the request returns)
[16:28:39] <Saibo>	 @my note: fast again
[16:36:09] <Reedy>	 lol
[16:37:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Enable CGI module for Mailman" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1839
[16:37:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1839
[16:37:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1839
[16:37:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1839
[16:57:06] <Saibo>	 29 secs database lag
[16:57:09] <Saibo>	 *grr*
[16:57:14] <Saibo>	 at commons
[17:11:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mark Bergsma; "Enable mod_redirect" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1840
[17:12:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1840
[17:12:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1840
[17:23:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: RobLa; "Revert "Telling the world mediawiki rocks cuz it duz"" [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1841
[17:24:36] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Mark Bergsma; "Vandal permblocked." [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1841
[17:25:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: RobLa; "Planning to rock in a sort of stoic James Dean kind of way instead" [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1826
[17:26:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change restored: RobLa; ":-P" [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1841
[17:57:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Dzahn; "git rid of IP in Apache virtual host" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1842
[17:57:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1842
[17:58:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dzahn; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1842
[17:58:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Dzahn; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1842
[18:38:11] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - BGP status on cr1-eqiad is OK: OK: host 208.80.154.196, sessions up: 9, down: 0, shutdown: 0  
[18:45:25] <Krinkle>	 Thehelpfulone: Hi, you messaged me ? I didn't' quite get it
[18:46:41] <Thehelpfulone>	 Krinkle: hey yes, basically I'm updating http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Promoting_users -- and for all the different languages, I'd like to give an image with the corresponding language
[18:46:43] <Krinkle>	 Thehelpfulone: You want crat rights on prototypewiki because on testwiki crats can remove crat/sysopship. 
[18:47:03] <Thehelpfulone>	 yes, because if you see that page, "Check the box next to "Sysop", provide a reason and click "Save user groups" to grant sysop rights. Bureaucrats cannot normally revoke sysop rights. The * next to the checkbox means that once you grant the right, you will not have the ability to remove it afterwards. For removal of sysop rights, make a request at Steward requests/Permissions#Removal of access."
[18:47:28] <Krinkle>	 So on test wiki you can test more.
[18:47:32] <Thehelpfulone>	 obviously there's no * in the checkbox for testwiki -- so the image would confuse users
[18:47:55] <Krinkle>	 It's trivial to hide the extra checkbox with firebug, or take the shot on your local wiki.
[18:49:03] <Thehelpfulone>	 but it shouldn't be hidden, more greyed out - I'm not going to be making rights changes other than to 1 account
[18:49:08] <Thehelpfulone>	 brb
[18:50:07] <Krinkle>	 Thehelpfulone: btw, such documentation is probably better at MediaWiki.org help namespace instead of meta-wiki main space. like here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Assigning_permissions
[18:50:30] <Krinkle>	 Unless it's WMF-specific, it should be on mw.org so that it's useful to third party users as well
[18:58:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Lcarr; "Adding lcarr to sms group, removing dcooper" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1843
[18:58:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1843
[18:59:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Lcarr; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1843
[18:59:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Lcarr; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1843
[19:00:46] <Thehelpfulone>	 Krinkle: hmm fair point, I'll check to see why it's on meta-wiki
[19:01:10] <Krinkle>	 Thehelpfulone: If you could move/merge that into the Help page on mw.org, that'd be nice :)
[19:01:29] <Krinkle>	 Thehelpfulone: Do you know how / do you have a localhost wiki ?
[19:02:17] <Thehelpfulone>	 no to the second question - but yes I'll have a look into it for the first question -- I think it's on meta because it's to do with removing flags and asking stewards
[19:02:34] <Krinkle>	 19:02, 11 January 2012 Krinkle (talk | contribs | block) changed rights for User:Thehelpfulone from (none) to bureaucrat ‎ (Taking screenshots for documentation)
[19:02:35] <Reedy>	 Thehelpfulone, was it you asking me about enabling LQT?
[19:03:02] <Thehelpfulone>	 Reedy: yes, well I was asking if it's allowed to be enabled - although it seems clear on meta that views are divided
[19:03:13] <Reedy>	 Still, eitherway
[19:03:28] <Thehelpfulone>	 do we have an ETA for LQT 3.0?
[19:03:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Asher; "user class for dartar + adding to admins::restricted" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1844
[19:03:39] <Reedy>	 No
[19:03:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1844
[19:04:30] <Reedy>	 We can do it, we (wmf) would prefer not to enable it, but if people really really want it, and they can/will deal (ie put up) with the bugs...
[19:04:59] <Thehelpfulone>	 okay thanks for the update
[19:05:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Asher; "user class for dartar + adding to admins::restricted" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1844
[19:05:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1844
[19:05:55] <Thehelpfulone>	 Krinkle: thank you, I'll check up on merging that first -- is prototype based on en.wiki (we don't have If you intend to add IP Block Exemption to an account, please consider asking a CheckUser to verify the need, and also notify the user of its conditions using {{subst:Ipexemptgranted}}. ) on meta
[19:06:18] <Krinkle>	 Thehelpfulone: But the one on prototype is full of red links
[19:06:46] <Krinkle>	 Thehelpfulone: I'm good at Firebug, if you tell me what you want pictured I can compose it in the browser and tweak links to exist virtually on my screen etc.
[19:06:59] <Thehelpfulone>	 okay
[19:07:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Asher; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1844
[19:07:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Asher; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1844
[19:07:54] <Krinkle>	 Thehelpfulone: Just ping me when you have a composition in mind that you know for sure, I can do it in a minute. I'm assuming you're busy on that now, so I'll go back to work. Just ping when you need me
[19:08:17] <Thehelpfulone>	 yep, I'll probably do it tomorrow when I have a bit more time :)
[19:15:01] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on ms1002 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours  
[19:25:38] <Nemo_bis>	 Thehelpfulone, actually that page shouldn't be there
[19:26:09] <Thehelpfulone>	 on meta you mean?
[19:26:45] <Nemo_bis>	 yes
[19:26:52] <Nemo_bis>	 first, it should be in Help namespace
[19:26:58] <Nemo_bis>	 second, such Help is better on mw.o
[19:27:26] <Nemo_bis>	 third, it's not worth translating all those screenshots IMHO
[19:46:27] <logmsgbot>	 !log catrope synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php  'Enable AFTv5 on testwiki'
[19:46:29] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[19:47:29] <logmsgbot>	 !log catrope synchronized php-1.18/resources/startup.js  'touch'
[19:47:30] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[19:49:21] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Host mw1102 is DOWN: PING CRITICAL - Packet loss = 100%  
[19:51:01] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - Host srv191 is UP: PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 0.85 ms  
[20:09:37] <logmsgbot>	 !log catrope synchronized php-1.18/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.js  'r108666'
[20:09:39] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[20:10:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Dzahn; "in the generic check_disk command used in base, ignore tmpfs filesystems" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1845
[20:11:58] <RoanKattouw>	 !log Created AFTv5 tables on testwiki
[20:11:59] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Mr. Obvious
[20:18:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dzahn; "check_disk_6_3 is what is used as generic check_disk in base. (if you really want to check tmpfs fil..." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1845
[20:22:48] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Host srv191 is DOWN: PING CRITICAL - Packet loss = 100%  
[20:24:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Asher; "glam filter for national archive - rt2212" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1846
[20:24:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1846
[20:25:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Asher; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1846
[20:25:31] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Asher; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1846
[20:44:37] <logmsgbot>	 !log catrope synchronized php-1.18/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/  'Updating AFTv5 to trunk staet'
[20:44:38] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[20:50:40] <RoanKattouw>	 !log Applying MoodBar schema changes (index addition and column addition) on all wikis
[20:50:41] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Mr. Obvious
[20:57:51] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/extensions/ShortUrl/  'r108680'
[20:57:52] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[20:58:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "gallium: allow postgreSQL administration" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1847
[20:58:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [operations/puppet] (production); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1847
[20:58:41] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php  'Change shorturl preefix default'
[20:58:42] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[20:58:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Petrb; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1847
[21:17:06] <logmsgbot>	 !log catrope synchronizing Wikimedia installation... : Deploying MoodBar changes
[21:17:07] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[21:18:53] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - ps1-a5-sdtpa-infeed-load-tower-A-phase-Y on ps1-a5-sdtpa is CRITICAL: ps1-a5-sdtpa-infeed-load-tower-A-phase-Y CRITICAL - *2875*  
[21:19:18] <logmsgbot>	 sync done.
[21:53:35] <logmsgbot>	 !log reedy synchronized php-1.18/includes/api/  'r108683'
[21:53:37] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[22:09:48] <Reedy>	 Is lists down for anyone else?
[22:15:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Lcarr; "Adding in traceroute to bastion hosts" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1848
[22:15:50] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - ps1-a5-sdtpa-infeed-load-tower-A-phase-Y on ps1-a5-sdtpa is OK: ps1-a5-sdtpa-infeed-load-tower-A-phase-Y OK - 2400  
[22:18:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Lcarr; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1848
[22:18:46] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Lcarr; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1848
[22:24:50] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on srv272 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours  
[22:27:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Lcarr; "changing traceroute-nanog to traceroute due to perm issues" [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1849
[22:27:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Lcarr; "(no comment)" [operations/puppet] (production); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1849
[22:27:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Lcarr; [operations/puppet] (production) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1849
[22:30:20] <nagios-wm>	 RECOVERY - Puppet freshness on ms1002 is OK: puppet ran at Wed Jan 11 22:30:01 UTC 2012  
[22:52:48] <Saibo>	 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Sinai_Red_sea_ecological_disaster_Nabq_nature_reserve.jpg/120px-Sinai_Red_sea_ecological_disaster_Nabq_nature_reserve.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Sinai_Red_sea_ecological_disaster_Nabq_nature_reserve.jpg/121px-Sinai_Red_sea_ecological_disaster_Nabq_nature_reserve.jpg 
[22:52:48] <Saibo>	 compare ;-)  Seems as if purge on upload of new version fails for some old thumb versions.
[22:53:12] <Saibo>	 note: maybe this is only from Germany
[22:53:22] <Saibo>	 as it happened some times in the past...
[22:53:30] <Saibo>	 squids in Amsterdam were foul
[22:59:59] <nagios-wm>	 PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on db22 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours  
[23:00:15] <DaBPunkt>	 how was the name of the fenarie-successor again?
[23:00:40] <LeslieCarr>	 bast1001
[23:01:56] <DaBPunkt>	 LeslieCarr: no, it was something simple
[23:02:42] <LeslieCarr>	 if you are talking about fenari the machine or something different ?
[23:02:54] <DaBPunkt>	 LeslieCarr: yes, the login-server
[23:03:31] <LeslieCarr>	 oh, different function of fenari
[23:03:32] <DaBPunkt>	 forget it, fenari IS the successor
[23:03:32] <LeslieCarr>	 nm
[23:18:26] <LH_>	 We have organized a banner Protest against SOPA at the german Wikipedia, to whom would we have to speak to have the banner activated if things should become serious?
[23:19:10] <RoanKattouw>	 Is this about CentralNotice banners?
[23:19:37] <LH_>	 As far as i understand, yes.
[23:20:34] <Saibo>	 meta admins I guess.  But.. doesn't a site notice work, too?
[23:21:29] <LH_>	 This was the question we could not realy answer. We could not really find anyone at the german WP who has experience with site notices as they have not been used for a long time.
[23:21:31] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah
[23:21:36] <RoanKattouw>	 Use a site notice if at all possible
[23:22:02] <LH_>	 Can we design the banner in the wiki-syntax?
[23:22:05] <RoanKattouw>	 It's easy, really, just edit [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]. You won't have all the features of CentralNotice though ("x" to disable, targeting logged-in users, etc.)
[23:22:09] <RoanKattouw>	 LH_: YES!
[23:22:17] <RoanKattouw>	 You can absolutely write it in wikitext
[23:22:40] <LH_>	 Great.  thanks for anwering.
[23:22:48] <p858snake|l>	 RoanKattouw: all sitenotices are dismissable afaik
[23:22:51] <Saibo>	 just curious: central notice is usually in html - works wikisyntax, too? 
[23:23:03] <Saibo>	 or just at site notice?
[23:23:26] <p858snake|l>	 also you need to update the sitenotice number as well iirc to push its cache
[23:23:40] <Saibo>	 (btw: the problem I have described above 25 minutes ago is now at: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33672 )
[23:25:09] <RoanKattouw>	 I think CentralNotice requires HTML
[23:25:49] <Saibo>	 k
[23:29:25] <Saibo>	 LH_: Siehe http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CentralNotice
[23:29:34] <Saibo>	 damn
[23:29:43] <Saibo>	 bad luck? :D
[23:31:29] <DaBPunkt>	 p858snake|l: yes, with [MediaWiki:Sitenotice id]
[23:32:15] <Saibo>	 *grmpf* and of course all this info LH_ has asked is already there since December: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Initiative_gegen_den_SOPA#Text_eines_Banners ;)