[10:52:45] PROBLEM - Auth DNS on ns2.wikimedia.org is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Plugin timed out while executing system call [11:18:28] PROBLEM - Recursive DNS on 208.80.152.131 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Plugin timed out while executing system call [11:23:45] PROBLEM - Recursive DNS on 91.198.174.6 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Plugin timed out while executing system call [11:34:33] RECOVERY - Auth DNS on ns2.wikimedia.org is OK: DNS OK: 9.230 seconds response time. www.wikipedia.org returns 208.80.152.201 [11:59:32] RECOVERY - Recursive DNS on 208.80.152.131 is OK: DNS OK: 7.306 seconds response time. www.wikipedia.org returns 208.80.152.201 [12:43:15] RECOVERY - Recursive DNS on 91.198.174.6 is OK: DNS OK: 8.049 seconds response time. www.wikipedia.org returns 91.198.174.225 [12:51:04] Andre_Engels: welcome, have a good first day. I'm in .de, if you want to meet US-based people you"ll need to wait until the evening in our timezone [12:51:41] mutante: Yes, I realized that. I have other things to deal with this evening, however, so that will probably have to wait until tomorrow. [12:52:36] tell me if you are missing specific logins or something [12:52:56] can create RT tickets for that or check if they exist already [12:53:00] Hard to tell, since I have no idea which ones I *should* have [12:54:36] ok, you talked to CT and Mark before, right [12:55:14] we'll get you setup.. i guess one of those you should have is RT [13:02:37] ah,ok, not if you are in -dev, but you [13:02:58] but you'll still be able to send requests to it, if you need ops to setup something for you [13:09:30] hello Andre [13:10:08] what will you be working on? [13:12:00] Visitor log analysis, in particular where involving mobile [13:12:29] any log analysis would be pretty great [13:13:20] we got "mobile traffic loggers" (varnishnsca) [13:13:47] you know what I sometimes dream of? [13:14:17] that when some host is overloaded we can look at the requests in realtime and see if any url or any ip range stands out. [13:15:06] right then. or that if we see there was a spike 10 minutes ago we could see if there was anything in the traffic. [13:15:17] now it's all guessing based on sample logs etc :-( [13:15:20] could I poke one of the devs to review and push r107623 live? [13:15:50] today people have the day off, so I think you will have better luck tomorrow [13:16:27] pushing something live means staying around to monitor it in case something goes wrong (not just for 5 mins, you know)... so I personally would rather not do that today [13:16:30] apergos: yeah, and with "Apache Pong" visualization? http://code.google.com/p/logstalgia/ :) [13:17:53] want to kick spence... [13:21:29] @aspergos - sounds useful. We should be looking at that some time in the future. [13:22:25] s/asper/aper/ ;-) [13:22:34] Oops, thanks for the correction [13:22:38] heh [13:22:41] lots of olks do that [13:22:44] folks [13:23:34] hmm logstalia looks nice but I would settle for an ncurses version [13:23:42] something like iftop except for web requests [13:23:50] or the request stream of one's choice [13:32:45] different classes of tools: a) analyze Apache (or Squid) logs b) network interface statistics provided by the kernel as information source (no sniffing) (f.e. vnstat, console-based) c) actual packet sniffer tools (f.e. "nast" with ncurses interface, can follow TCP streams) [13:37:38] I wouldlike live analysis of squid/apache/varnish logs and of mysqld queries, [13:37:45] that would be a great start [13:41:50] there is mtop for mysql [13:53:46] is stats.wikimedia.org down ? [13:54:09] also i dont see that in the status.wikimedia.org [13:56:03] yes, it is. it is running on spence, with nagios. [13:56:12] connecting to its mgmt console now [13:58:09] !log spence down, no ssh, no mgmt output, powercycling it .. [13:58:11] Logged the message, Master [14:00:22] !log gmond complains about missing kernel modules on spence when trying to start on boot [14:00:23] Logged the message, Master [14:02:37] srikanthlogic: it's back [14:02:56] mutante: thanks! [14:04:09] srikanthlogic: yw, maybe we should move that to another host [14:06:56] !log spence / gmetad - RRD_update .. illegal attempt to update using time .. last update time is .. (minimum one second step) [14:06:57] Logged the message, Master [14:07:00] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on spence is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [14:24:49] RECOVERY - Puppet freshness on spence is OK: puppet ran at Mon Jan 2 14:24:36 UTC 2012 [14:24:50] RECOVERY - Puppet freshness on spence is OK: puppet ran at Mon Jan 2 14:24:36 UTC 2012 [14:33:33] !log puppet ran on spence, ganglia also seems ok despite the errors i logged before. gammu-smsd cant find device again though [14:33:33] Logged the message, Master [15:29:55] apergos, regarding bug 32404 [15:30:06] this problem is becoming more "intense" [15:30:34] which one is it? (bear in mind I am on "vacation" today, i.e. everyone has the day off, so I won't look at it today) [15:30:34] i have the feeling that every time a page with an alias is edited, a new problematic record is created [15:30:49] ok [15:31:08] pagelinks table contains ns:0 entries for images, cats and discussions [15:31:40] i have the feeling a manual script is not a good solution [15:32:22] ok [15:32:35] well that's good to know, if you are here please nag me about it tomorrow [15:33:13] ok :) have a good year (all 366 days) ;) [15:33:55] thank you! [15:34:20] I hope you have a good year too, full of wikimedian geekiness and other good things :-) [15:34:32] :D [15:34:46] evxaristw! [15:34:53] :-) [15:37:49] malafaya: o vandalo já parou,certo? [15:38:15] Alchimista, sim, pelo menos para já [15:38:29] ok! ainda bem [16:13:28] lol, I still get enotifs from Internal 2 years after I went away [16:13:54] did you get turned off? [16:14:05] i.e. "blocked" [16:14:16] yes [16:14:29] user=Nemo bis? [16:14:50] Nemo [16:15:32] I this is the first one though, nobody updates the few pages I watchlisted apparently :-p [16:15:42] "This user is currently blocked" [16:15:48] sure [16:15:49] Nemo_bis: btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_to_me#In_other_languages [16:15:59] heh, the first one [16:16:11] *or* there was a code change so you get them now [16:16:19] wow, jeremyb, interesting page [16:16:22] hm [16:17:30] oh, no, it's not the only one [16:18:05] 8th after Jan 7, 2010 :) [16:23:16] jeremyb, interesting, Italian is the only one to choose those languages, but Yiddish for Aramaic [16:34:53] any dev around for a small fix to the spam blacklist extension? I'd avoid a public bug on bugzilla if possible [16:35:09] you'll find people around tomorrow [16:35:18] today anyone in the channel is mostly goofing off [16:35:46] btw tomorrow in which timezone? :) [16:35:55] any [16:35:59] it's already tomorrow in Samoa :) [16:36:19] any samoans around? [16:36:20] sure but it's not tomorrow after 10 am is it? ;-P [16:36:22] :-P [16:37:04] nope, not yet. so tomorrow at 10 UTC(+ -)n [16:37:26] well generally if you want to find folsk around you look for em after 10 am in their time zone... [16:37:42] Anyone here have the ability to override the title blacklist on Commons? [16:37:44] or know how to? [16:38:33] shouldn't someone in #wikimedia-commons be able to handle that? [16:40:50] Apparently not. [16:41:42] Do you have that ability, because the admins there are confused [16:42:04] I'm trying to create a new account and get "Login error <

The user name "This is also Sven Manguard" has been banned from creation as it matches one or more blacklisted character strings.

> [16:42:11] hm ok, after 17 CET [16:45:20] I wonder what the blacklist has in it [16:45:54] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Titleblacklist [16:46:02] I can't figure out what I'm hitting [16:48:28] .{30,} # No usernames longer than 30 characters [16:48:29] that [16:48:36] because the count includes "User:" [16:48:37] :-/ [16:48:43] Really? Oh wow. [16:49:16] I only know that because we've been there and been hosed by that :-D [16:49:39] The username for new accounts will be regarded by Titleblacklist differently to the way it regards new articles. Titleblacklist will prepend "User:" to the string that a user enters at Username on the create account page. [16:49:40] wow [16:49:43] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Title_blacklist [16:49:53] So when Titleblacklist is performing matches with your Regex's, as found on MediaWiki:Titleblacklist or MediaWiki:Titlewhitelist, it will match against "User" + . [16:50:39] if you don;t mind passing that info on to them they should be able to straighten it out now [16:51:00] (and maybe they shouuld add a comment with lots of asterisks around it, about the syntax, so they don't have to go through this again) [16:59:16] anyone here that deals with the hardware end of stuff? [17:02:14] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on es1002 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [17:02:14] PROBLEM - Puppet freshness on es1002 is CRITICAL: Puppet has not run in the last 10 hours [17:02:18] phuzion: kinda... [17:03:02] phuzion: (they are mostly on vacation... they may appear if you state your case) [17:04:37] * jeremyb runs away for a bit [17:05:39] thx apergos [17:09:01] phuzion: also depends on the location of the hardware [17:10:51] bugzilla just upgraded to 4.0.3 and now has SiteMap extension and bugs be googleable [17:17:35] cool [17:27:34] !bug 33406 [17:29:48] !bug is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=$1 [17:29:49] Key was added! [17:30:01] !bz alias bug [17:30:01] Successfully created [17:30:12] !bug 33367 [17:30:12] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33367 [17:30:56] thank you [17:31:04] * Nemo_bis never noticed bus are not googleable [17:31:17] !bug 33406 [17:31:17] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33406 [17:37:27] it's just that I like its search [17:53:24] jeremyb: Basically, I was asking if anyone ever had the System Board 5V PG Bad error on a R510 or similar machine. [17:53:32] I've got an R510 at work that's having the same issue. [17:53:52] * jeremyb wonders what PG is [17:54:32] phuzion: you have some kind of OOB/IPMI/etc.? [17:54:54] jeremyb: In OMSA, it reports as "System Board 5V PG" [17:54:58] or you're in front of it? [17:54:59] and just says "Bad" [17:55:04] Yeah, I'm in front of it. [17:55:11] I'm actually on the phone with Dell about it right now. [17:55:23] i've spent all of 3 mins using OMSA [17:55:46] cumulative over lifetime :) [17:55:51] heh [17:55:57] i'm pretty much the same [17:57:38] PG seems to be power grid [17:57:41] http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/servers/f/956/p/19388881/19903654.aspx [17:58:01] yeah, the last tech I talked to said it was 5V power for the proc [17:58:42] there's some suggestions on that link but i can't say they're promising [18:07:26] !log nikerabbit synchronized php-1.18/extensions/WebFonts/WebFonts.i18n.php 'i18ndeploy r107843' [18:07:27] Logged the message, Master [18:08:11] !log nikerabbit synchronized php-1.18/languages/messages/ 'i18ndeploy r107843' [18:08:12] Logged the message, Master [18:11:48] !log nikerabbit synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'Bug 33368: WebFonts on bpywiki' [18:11:49] Logged the message, Master [19:10:03] apergos: here? [19:10:32] if I wanted to import database of simple wiki to local installation what is simplest way? [19:10:44] can I just import dumps to sql? [20:03:51] folks from cs wiki wanted to know why https://stats.wikimedia.org/ is using this certificate, is there a reason why not to use some trusted one? [20:25:16] petan: it is hosted at another service provider [20:25:26] and it is not like it matters, does it?!?!!? ;-) [20:25:40] no it doesn't they wanted to know why it happens [20:26:33] petan: because it is on another hosting provider [20:26:37] ok [20:26:50] petan: we could host a frame on our servers, etc, but then it wouldn't be off-site service :) [20:27:08] heh [20:27:09] sure [21:40:18] Writing "2011 in review" for the Signpost is anyone wants to highlight anything or make any predictions for 2012. [21:40:23] Open to suggestions :) [21:40:44] SOPA? [21:41:53] apocalypse, no [21:43:02] Well, it was a big deal [21:43:19] heck, it still is [21:46:12] petan: use mwdumper os something similar to convert to sql, then shove the talbes in the usual wayu [21:46:39] I already started import dump [21:46:42] ok [21:46:44] Heh, particular interested in tech, anyway, any extension developers who lurk in here and would like attention :) [21:46:45] I hope it finish soon :) [21:46:54] importDump is the slow way, the others are faster, you will have to rebuild rc [21:47:00] ah [21:47:01] you also will have to load the other tables eparately [21:47:10] which tables? [21:47:17] if importDump completes for you in a reasonable period of time, cool [21:47:19] the sql files needs to be loaded? [21:47:20] um [21:47:29] or xml is enough [21:47:33] varioous link talbes etc, check what we offer for download [21:47:45] I thought that import will create it for me [21:47:46] either that or you need to run rebuildAll or whatever it's called [21:47:51] ok [21:47:54] I will do that [21:47:57] which is also slow, but if you're not dealing with a huuuuge wiki, then ok [21:48:01] I keep it running over night [21:48:06] it's simple wiki [21:48:06] cool [21:48:18] it's running on labs [21:48:23] yeah just let it go and see where it is tomorrow [22:16:58] Hello. What are we supposed to do if userpages of newly registered users are displayed with a wrong namespace in header? [22:18:18] Microcell: URL? [22:18:46] http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Обсуждение_участницы:Nadyn , for example [22:19:05] It must be Обговорення користувача, the shown alias is in Russian [22:23:02] Maybe the engine now supports alias modifications based on gender set in preferences and the relevant message is not translated yet? [22:24:20] that's entirely possible [22:25:32] Could you then give me a link to that message, so that I'd fix it? [22:26:44] it's $namespaceGenderAliases [22:26:59] $namespaceGenderAliases = array( [22:26:59] NS_USER => array( 'female' => 'Участник', 'female' => 'Участница' ), [22:26:59] NS_USER_TALK => array( 'female' => 'Обсуждение_участника', 'female' => 'Обсуждение_участницы' ), [22:26:59] ); [22:27:34] judging by the duplicate keys there, I'd say it must be in translatewiki.net [22:28:21] 6000 pages in 2 hours and still need 300 000 more, apergos wouldn't it be faster to kill it and start it again the way you suggested to me? [22:28:21] Nikerabbit? [22:30:02] Microcell: is Участник male? [22:30:13] TimStarling: yes, but that's in Russian [22:31:20] what are the Ukrainian translations? [22:31:20] the problem is that female aliases aren't translated into Ukrainian, thus displayed in the fallback language [22:32:25] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/107648 [22:32:26] wtf? [22:32:51] Actually Користувачка and Обговорення користувачки, but I don't think there is consensus for differentiation in the community. I'd leave it the same for now, Користувач / Обговорення користувача for both genders. [22:33:26] TimStarling: what? [22:33:34] Nikerabbit: look at that revision [22:33:49] in MessagesRu, look at the array keys [22:34:08] wow I must be blind [22:34:50] I'll can fix it while I'm fixing microcell's thing if you like [22:35:11] that would be nice of you [22:35:14] TimStarling: yep, I've come across one discussion dated 2008, where it wasn't agreed since Користувачка is not even listed in thesaurus [22:36:02] So I think nothing must be changed for now. [22:36:24] did I also break ukrainian namespace names? [22:37:08] there's no $namespaceGenderAliases for uk and it has an ru fallback [22:37:17] so they inherit the russian aliases [22:37:28] but they don't want them so I'm just setting it to an empty array [22:37:43] yes [22:37:55] I had totally forgotten that that will happen [22:38:02] yes, in case of any questions I'll inform you. Please. [22:38:17] I guess I should check if there are any others with fallback = ru [22:38:43] many [22:38:58] 25 if I grepped correctly [22:39:08] minus few false positives [22:40:06] fun [22:41:27] some of them don't have $namespaceNames [22:42:56] so they wont probably care then, if they are getting russian versions anyway [22:43:02] yeah [22:43:05] TimStarling: but most language versions perfectly manage without gender distinction as well. What's the difference? [22:44:04] the gender distinction in namespaces has only been around so little time that translators don't even know they can request it [22:44:12] $fallback = 'uk, ru'; [22:44:24] is that meant to do something? [22:44:39] or is that just some translator inventing syntax? [22:45:13] I converted the recursive fallbacks to flattened lists some time ago [22:45:23] $coreData['fallbackSequence'] = array_map( 'trim', explode( ',', $coreData['fallback'] ) ); [22:45:25] curious [22:45:54] so if you just do $fallback = 'uk', what happens? [22:46:12] rue -> uk -> en? [22:46:36] yep, English is implicitly there [22:47:43] What if we just translate the whole syntax with same names for males and females? [22:47:55] no idea about rue, honestly [22:49:23] As to removing ru as fallback, I think many translators will complain about inconvenience [22:49:57] ...but nationalistic users will appreciate ;] Up to you, of course. [22:55:12] TimStarling: is there something you'd like me to do before I head to bed? [22:55:26] Is es: the fallback for ca:? If it's the case, no problem with this pair. [22:55:26] no, I think I can handle this, good night [22:55:37] just making sure, thanks! [22:56:19] What if we just translate the whole syntax with same names for males and females? [22:56:27] it's not necessary, I just committed a fix [22:56:42] As to removing ru as fallback, I think many translators will complain about inconvenience [22:57:16] I wasn't talking about changing any language, I was just asking about some technical details of the localisation system [22:58:22] Yes, I see, sorry for misunderstanding you [23:02:10] !log tstarling synchronizing Wikimedia installation... : [23:02:11] Logged the message, Master [23:04:26] sync done. [23:06:00] TimStarling: any way I could bribe you to get r107623 live? [23:07:30] Microcell: it should be fixed now [23:08:15] TimStarling: on the list of new pages it's OK, but headers are the same [23:08:36] http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Обговорення_користувача:Rysalka [23:10:41] which headers? [23:11:36] page titles, like in the link I've given [23:12:22] but Обсуждение участницы: is not a space / alias anymore [23:13:11] it's just caching [23:13:58] action=purge fixes it [23:14:44] Yes, all right now. Thanks a lot! [23:21:16] !log tstarling synchronized php-1.18/includes/parser/Parser.php 'r107856' [23:21:17] Logged the message, Master [23:21:21] Betacommand: done [23:21:33] TimStarling: thanks a lot :) [23:23:00] that fixes an issue Ive been fighting for a while :P [23:38:11] I think the job runners might be having issues [23:38:17] http://ganglia3.wikimedia.org/graph_all_periods.php?c=Miscellaneous%20pmtpa&h=spence.wikimedia.org&v=93084&m=enwiki%20JobQueue%20length&r=hour&z=default&jr=&js=&st=1325547418&z=large [23:38:34] Over last week or so, enwiki has built up more than 90k jobs [23:39:25] !log Seems to potentially be an issue with job runners, enwiki backed up to over 90k over the last week or so. Needs investigating [23:39:26] Logged the message, Master [23:46:43] gn8 folks