[09:47:43] <godog>	 dpifke: hi! re: perf alerts in Alertmanager, I have a sketch I used to test the idea at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/alerts/+/670230 and have added you just now, please let me know what you think! there's still TODOs there for sure 
[09:48:10] <godog>	 I'm interested in feedback in the whole process too of course, as we're onboarding more teams and alerts
[17:18:31] <Krinkle>	 New dashboard, measuring MW backend timing for page views (e.g. not edits or other non-page/non-view actions): https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/QLtC93rMz/backend-pageview-response-time
[17:18:53] <Krinkle>	 we've been collecting this alongside mw backend save timing but afaik not previously plotted anywhere 
[17:19:29] <Krinkle>	 MobileFrontend seems to take up about 100ms (0.1s) on average for its additional overhead.
[19:40:42] <apine>	 Anybody got tips on how to control user permissions within Blubber? I can't migrate the `make` commands in Thumbor's Dockerfile because `builder` commands run with restricted permissions.
[19:51:34] <apine>	 Alternatively, does anyone know how to override the default key merge rules? I can bypass the `make` commands by `pip install`ing directories, but that doesn't appear to be possible because copying takes place after Python requirements parsing.
[19:52:02] <apine>	 The last, last resort would be to put all of the dependent libraries on PyPI ... sigh.
[20:45:20] <dpifke>	 Can the dependencies be installed via apt instead of pip?  If not, we may need to package for Debian.
[20:47:35] <dpifke>	 python{3,}-swiftclient is definitely available on apt.wikimedia.org, if not in stock Debian.  (We also use it for ArcLamp.)
[21:38:16] <AaronSchulz>	 Krinkle: does https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/670476 look ok ?
[21:38:25] <Krinkle>	 AaronSchulz: task for multi-dc parser cache : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T277831
[21:38:37] <Krinkle>	 most discussion is on its subtask