[15:33:05] <Krinkle>	 gilles: one min :)
[16:22:31] <AaronSchulz>	 Krinkle: I amended https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/661452
[17:00:11] <Krinkle>	 Amir1: I added a "relative change" panel to https://grafana-rw.wikimedia.org/d/BvWJlaDWk/startup-manifest-size
[17:00:23] <Krinkle>	 it's not great in terms of what it shows, but at least it helps find which one changed
[17:00:34] <Krinkle>	 I couldn't find a better way to diff them, but maybe you know of one :)
[17:01:08] <Krinkle>	 I used offsetToZero and then maximumAbove(0)
[17:01:37] <Amir1>	 I try to think of something
[17:02:20] <Krinkle>	 there's also a confusing 0 -> 1 at the start when I do it this way because the data is not every minute
[17:02:48] <Krinkle>	 offsetToZero makes the first null a zero
[17:05:02] <Krinkle>	 commonswiki still significantly bigger (+20% or so to enwiki)
[17:05:59] <Krinkle>	 50k vs 60k
[17:06:03] <Krinkle>	 about 7k is Wikibase
[17:06:08] <Krinkle>	 4k
[17:06:19] <Amir1>	 if you want to be over time, the derivative would be nice https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000156/wikidata-dispatch?viewPanel=20&orgId=1&refresh=1m&from=now-6h&to=now
[17:06:26] <Krinkle>	 4k Wikibase, 1k Translate, 0.5k WikibaseMediaInfo
[17:06:37] <Amir1>	 of course in a bigger timeframe
[17:06:45] <Krinkle>	 hm.. derivative should work, Ill try that
[17:06:53] <Krinkle>	 I was searching for diff and didn't find this one, makes sense
[17:07:12] <Krinkle>	 diffSeriesLists looked usable, but derivative should be it yeah thats what I'm looking for
[18:07:41] <Krinkle>	 Amir1: nice that worked out quite well!
[18:08:16] <Krinkle>	 did it as one instead of two (no pos/neg split) so that there's not two entries given this is per-component
[18:08:40] <Amir1>	 \o/
[21:52:29] <Krinkle>	 phedenskog: There is a "Source" link at the bottom of the alertmanager emails
[21:52:38] <Krinkle>	 which goes to the specific Grafana alert panel
[21:52:46] <Krinkle>	 e.g. https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000402/resourceloader-alerts?tab=alert&viewPanel=22&orgId=1
[21:53:00] <Krinkle>	 took me a while to notice :)
[21:53:11] <Krinkle>	 but that means dashboard probably doesn't need to be specified by hand
[21:54:21] <Krinkle>	 did we talk with sre about, or file a task for, to have the subject not vary between fire and resolve?
[21:54:25] <Krinkle>	 so that it is one thread