[02:30:52] !log bots adding new member cupco [02:30:54] Logged the message, Master [02:35:47] 09/29/2012 - 02:35:47 - Created a home directory for cupco in project(s): bots [02:37:06] cupco: <-- there you go [02:40:46] 09/29/2012 - 02:40:45 - User cupco may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bots [02:56:56] Damianz: I am [02:57:35] and if freenode says I was idle for 70hrs, it's wrong [09:54:20] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Ask/-5B-5BResource-20Type::project-5D-5D/-3F/-3FMember/-3FDescription/mainlabel%3D-2D/searchlabel%3Dprojects/offset%3D0 [09:55:13] press "Next" and it won't work [09:59:32] ah, yeah, that's known [09:59:50] view 500 each [10:03:41] it's weird that the description of webtools is not shown in that list [10:27:52] hey all, anyone online that understands how Puppet is integrated into wmlabs? [10:29:54] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Leinad link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588605 edit summary: [11:02:31] any lab admins around? [11:02:49] Nova admins, per page [11:03:54] No Nova credentials found for your account. There were no Nova credentials found for your user account. Please ask a Nova administrator to create credentials for you. [11:03:54] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Superyetkin link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588611 edit summary: [11:08:05] Jyothis: Logout and login again [11:08:15] Ok [11:08:44] heh Hydriz thanks [11:08:48] np :) [11:08:49] why does it do this? [11:08:57] Not sure, but its a known bug [11:09:06] something to do with MediaWiki itself afaik [11:09:12] Ah. [11:10:09] !log dumps Reboot dumps-bot1, out of memory space... [11:10:10] Logged the message, Master [11:15:17] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by Nemo bis link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588615 edit summary: link [11:16:05] !log glam-gwtools added puppet configuration webserver::php5-mysql [11:16:05] glam-gwtools is not a valid project. [11:16:30] !log gwtools added puppet configuration webserver::php5-mysql [11:16:30] gwtools is not a valid project. [11:16:56] !log glam added puppet configuration webserver::php5-mysql to the gwtools instance [11:16:58] Logged the message, Master [11:32:55] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by Aka link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588617 edit summary: [11:36:41] having !log glam granted dan-nl sudo priviledges [11:36:50] !log glam granted member:dan-nl sudo priviledges [11:36:51] Logged the message, Master [12:04:29] hey any admin out there that knows why the command puppetd - tv would return ... err: Could not request certificate: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known ... Exiting; failed to retrieve certificate and waitforcert is disabled [12:13:54] anyone know why adding the puppet configuration webserver::php5-mysql would only install apache and not php and mysql? [12:54:01] dan-nl: better time to ask is on working days 2 pm - 12 pm UTC when all are here [12:54:38] Nirvanchik: cool, thanks will do that then [12:54:53] dan-nl: Do you understand puppet syntax? [12:56:51] Hydriz: not really - it's new to me, but in the web ui, webserver::php5-mysql, seems to me that it would install apache, php5, and mysql in the instance ... it had none of them after the initial build, but after i selected that option it seems to have installed only apache ... [12:57:13] Let me try to figure it out, I don't know puppet myself :P [12:57:23] but the puppet config is in Gerrit, if you didn't know [12:58:17] Hydriz: ha! that makes it even more confusing :) ... i figured that on the config instance page you set the server services you want and puppet installs them ... [12:58:38] eh, yes... [12:58:46] puppet does things for you :P [12:59:32] dan-nl: The puppet config looks like it only ensures that the package is the latest [12:59:52] and by package, I mean the php5-mysql package, which is the communication link between php and mysql [12:59:59] so it does not install php and mysql [13:00:07] Hydriz: ah [13:00:33] dan-nl: Try enabling webserver::apache [13:01:48] Hydriz: k, trying that now ... so now i've added .. webserver::apache2, webserver::php5, webserver::php5-mysql [13:02:07] Hydriz: will see how that turns out ... [13:02:15] dan-nl: Sure :) [13:02:30] I am trying to learn puppet soon [13:02:46] since I got some magic I need for the Incubator project [13:03:18] opps [13:03:29] apparently there isn't a webserver::apache class [13:03:37] or rather, group [13:03:58] This is the file btw: https://github.com/gerritwm/puppet/blob/production/manifests/webserver.pp [13:15:09] Hydriz: interesting ... so those configuration in the web ui all refer to these "packages" on github? [13:15:27] eh, what? [13:15:36] these "packages" are part of Ubuntu [13:15:48] and its on Github because its a mirror of the original repository [13:15:51] on Gerrit [13:16:06] Gerrit always loads very slowly for me, so I use this clone of mine :) [13:16:49] Hydriz: ah, i see [13:19:04] Hydriz: ok, so when you click on configure next to an instance on https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NovaInstance, you get a list of global groups. those global groups refer to ubuntu packages on gerrit.wikimedia.org? [13:19:19] *facepalm* [13:19:25] hehe [13:19:31] These global groups are various puppet classes [13:19:39] sorry, just don't know how this works yet :) [13:19:41] for the example file I pointed out earlier... [13:19:53] the class is defined with class { [13:20:01] so is all these global groups [13:20:23] but, the existence of these groups on Special:NovaInstance is managed separately (I think) [13:20:52] gerrit.wikimedia.org is just the place that hosts the puppet configuration repository, no packages involved. [13:25:14] Hydriz: k, i think i understand that ... gerrit.wikimedia.org has a webserver.pp (a puppet package script) somewhere that is used by labs to define packages that can be installed in a labs instance .. correct? [13:27:31] not really [13:27:45] and to actually talk about that, is going to be a long winded story [13:28:07] and its going to be a goose telling another goose how to eat a cow [13:28:13] Hydriz: k, no worries ... will deal with it on monday [13:28:15] where both don't know how [13:28:46] I hope I didn't offend you in anyway, but I am trying to learn puppet myself [13:28:51] Hydriz: thanks for trying ... this is all new to me and i find the docs on labs don't explain this part very well yet [13:28:54] and basically, I just sudo apt-get it [13:29:07] Hydriz: no, nothing taken personally ... thanks for trying though [13:29:15] btw thanks for that docs updating [13:29:27] though I am planning for a much nicer interface [13:29:36] soon, all I can say :P [13:29:42] :) [13:32:52] !log bastion Added Huji to the project. Requested for shell access, but is already in the shell group. [13:32:53] Logged the message, Master [13:35:50] 09/29/2012 - 13:35:50 - Created a home directory for huji in project(s): bastion [13:36:50] yucks, my signature is really ugly [13:38:00] ah great, we can change the signature now [13:40:06] dan-nl: Do you have a minute? [13:40:45] 09/29/2012 - 13:40:45 - User huji may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bastion [13:41:03] I would be grateful if you added some basic description of the glam project you are involved in. Thanks! :) [13:44:37] Hydriz: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project [13:44:56] ah great, will add that soon [13:45:06] after I fix the Shell access request template to allow comments [13:45:52] Hydriz: sounds good [13:46:16] I don't think people would see the talk page [13:48:20] opps, I broke it haha [13:49:16] oh god, it needs to be a valid property zzz [13:49:44] creating property... [13:49:59] hmm ... have no idea what that means yet ... [13:51:18] !log glam added webserver::apache2, and webserver::php5 to the gwtools instance [13:51:19] Logged the message, Master [13:51:49] Lol, its all Semantic MediaWiki [13:52:02] ...and its because I didn't close the tag, wtf... [13:52:31] and now extra 2 curly brackets... [13:53:56] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Нирваньчик link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588648 edit summary: /* account request */ new section [13:55:03] woots, it works [14:00:51] cool! [14:04:05] and that was my 200th edit [14:13:10] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Нирваньчик link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588655 edit summary: /* account request */ sorry I shouldn't have added this [14:20:35] wow, my edits were reflected here [14:20:42] Hydriz: ciao for now, thanks again for trying to help earlier ... [14:22:25] np [14:22:49] gosh, was he waiting for me to reply? [15:57:20] hi [15:57:36] do I need to be added to sudoers to install mysql and perl modules in my instance? [16:11:51] gribeco: I think they usually install all of this using puppet. but I don't know how. [16:12:51] Nirvanchik: thanks. I'll wait a bit longer and email labs-l if I don't get an answer here. [16:14:11] gribeco: if they don't answer today, ask here again on any working day 2...12 PM UTC when they all sit here [16:14:18] ok [16:54:13] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Hemant wikikosh link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588676 edit summary: [16:57:58] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Hemant wikikosh link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588678 edit summary: /* User:Hemant wikikosh */ [17:20:40] I have a problem with my project storage: When I try to run "cd /data/project" I get the error "-bash: cd: /data/project: No such file or directory [17:20:40] " [17:21:35] The commands in the troubleshooting section of [[Help:Shared storage]] did not help [17:29:15] did you try to create a new directory in /data/ as root? [17:31:40] mkdir: cannot create directory `/data/project': Permission denied [17:32:47] hmm. I get the same errror; I'm also new to this process [17:35:26] are you on -precise? [17:35:33] Yes [17:35:33] (i am) [17:35:56] maybe better luck w/ lucid? dunno [17:38:15] I created a lucid test instance to test this [17:42:44] hmm... It is not possible to create a instance at moment... [17:45:54] I think we have to wait until Ryan_Lane is there [20:06:52] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588718 edit summary: /* User:Njw */ [20:07:31] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588719 edit summary: /* User:Qgil */ [20:08:51] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588720 edit summary: /* User:Quentinv57 */ [20:09:34] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588721 edit summary: /* User:Isarra */ [20:10:17] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588722 edit summary: /* User:Leinad */ [20:10:57] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588723 edit summary: /* User:Superyetkin */ [20:11:37] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588724 edit summary: /* User:Нирваньчик */ [20:12:13] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588725 edit summary: /* User:Hemant wikikosh */ [20:27:19] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Sharihareswara (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588728 edit summary: /* User:Hemant wikikosh */ [20:27:59] @Ryan_Lane: I have a problem with proejct storage [20:28:05] oh? [20:28:08] in which way? [20:28:43] When I try to run "cd /data/project" I get the error "-bash: cd: /data/project: No such file or directory [20:29:02] which instance? [20:29:23] (btw hi Ryan_Lane hope you're doing well) [20:29:26] i-00000458 [20:29:37] sumanah: howdy [20:29:38] I'm fine [20:29:42] Jan_Luca: ok. gimme a sec [20:33:43] Jan_Luca: did someone recently create this project for you? [20:33:49] like really recently? [20:35:13] AndrewBogott has created it ca 24 hours ago [20:35:31] ah [20:35:47] seems the script for creating volumes isn't creating volumes... [20:39:17] Ryan_Lane, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Admin_tools_development#Toolserver_termination [20:40:59] thanjs [20:41:27] nemo sure likes to be a debbie downer [20:41:36] Krenair: you saw the draft https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sumanah/Bothelp ? [20:41:58] "no other home in the works". sigh [20:43:04] sumanah, no I didn't [20:43:10] * Krenair reads [20:43:35] Ryan_Lane: Can I do something or do you have to this? [20:43:46] sumanah, something up with this line? Check out other projects to join: project-5D-5D/-3F/-3FMember/-3FDescription/mainlabel%3D-2D/searchlabel%3Dprojects/offset%3D0 [20:43:51] Jan_Luca: I have to figure out why my script isn't working :( [20:44:12] Krenair: hm, that should have been a link to the "list all projects" page [20:45:14] Krenair: Some of this needs to get moved to other bits of help (Getting Started, Security, etc.) but after that it might be helpful.... waiting for other experts to look at it before moving it to main helpspace [20:45:31] the point of it is to actually be a reasonable bots howto thing [20:45:58] sumanah, I can't test this stuff or suggest any improvements as I don't actually have access to these projects [20:46:04] Or anything on labs actually [20:46:07] and the "you're coming from Toolserver? WELCOME" red carpet would be a different article that's more like "here's how we do things around here, and how to get help in general" with points to this bots thing and maybe other stuff [20:46:29] Although, actually, banned software [20:47:20] biab [20:47:21] Point to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Terms_of_use #2 [20:47:28] !log centralauth Installed Apache2 and PHP5 on centralauth-frontend [20:47:29] Logged the message, Master [20:48:31] Ryan_Lane: also an issue w/ metavidwiki project. I don't need storage though, so it's a non-issue for me [20:48:54] we were running -precise instances [20:48:57] yeah. likely the same issue [20:49:05] well, I think it's due to the script failing [20:49:11] metavid wiki is also fairly new [20:49:17] right [20:49:28] so it helps w/ a timeline analysis [20:50:47] 09/29/2012 - 20:50:47 - Created a home directory for hydriz in project(s): centralauth [20:51:40] thanks :) [20:54:15] Krenair: go ahead and fix it? I need to do some other stuff in the next 20 min [20:55:47] 09/29/2012 - 20:55:47 - User hydriz may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): centralauth [20:57:27] done: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sumanah/Bothelp&diff=7182&oldid=7181 [20:57:53] thank you Krenair [20:58:12] I knew you'd have something *grin* [20:59:11] Anyway, as I said, I can't really check the rest of it [21:01:23] sure [21:02:56] hi DanielK_WMDE [21:08:18] Change on 12mediawiki a page Developer access was modified, changed by Hemant wikikosh link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588740 edit summary: /* User:Hemant wikikosh */ [21:24:47] Ryan_Lane: Can you send me a mail when you found something about the project storage via https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Jan [21:28:52] sumanah, okay, I think I improved the formatting and stuff a bit [21:29:19] cool! thanks! [21:29:41] * Damianz looks around and explodes [21:30:18] Damianz? [21:30:30] hi [21:32:26] Jan_Luca: yep. I'll let you know when I fix it [21:33:33] Thank you. Bye. [21:43:56] * Damianz apologies for the spam [22:27:42] *sigh* I always miss Sumanah by minutes [22:28:44] 10 minutes late :P [22:29:37] 4 minutes according to nickserv :P [22:30:21] Oh…she left the room 10 minutes ago [22:31:47] Why do we need to publically post our email addresses to get a labs account? Not that it's a huge deal for me, but I know privacy is important to others. Isn't there a private process? [22:32:24] I requested an account on IRC so it was only seen by people in the room, I guess you could PM it to someone [22:32:35] Though I think someone mentioned that any labs user could see your email [22:33:04] Sure, but it's better than being google searchable... [22:33:34] that will go away soon [22:33:57] Basically you need an email and its the only way we can do it. Once registration opens up you'll just create a wiki account like normal. [22:34:23] Though, anyone in labs will probably be able to see your email even then (as it's in ldap). [22:34:40] TParis, you don't need to, just send Sumana an email [22:34:54] On the request page, in huge text: "If you don't want to post a public request, you can privately email User:Sumanah and give her the information above to get an account, but it will take longer." [22:35:54] hmm, musta missed that [22:36:48] Why don't you guys use a registration page? You can use ASP to create the account in LDAP that is disabled and then have an administrator enable it. [22:37:07] ASP? [22:37:22] active server pages...it's a language like PHP [22:37:25] ... [22:37:30] ... [22:37:40] Linux server then? [22:37:45] ... [22:37:48] ugh [22:38:22] fine, you can use PHP to do the same thing...the point is that a wiki page for registration is a bit silly [22:39:27] Ryan_Lane, what does the account creation process actually involve? [22:39:35] It's not simply creating a labsconsole account is it? [22:40:49] And TParis, do you really think WMF would run a Windows/IIS/ASP setup? [22:41:02] Krenair: Why not, the Air Force does [22:41:30] Even after reading the Terms of use? [22:41:57] It's what I mostly develop on at work so if I sometimes forget that I work in the open source world here, my bad [22:42:35] Especially LDAP, I'm used to using LDAP with ActiveDirectory [22:42:43] So I immediately went to ASP :P [22:42:57] Krenair: it's simply creating a labsconsole account [22:42:59] it's all LDAP [22:43:07] "No proprietary software [22:43:07] Do not incorporate any software that does not have OSI-approved open source licenses" [22:43:15] You should not forget this while using labs. [22:43:23] open registration is in the works [22:43:28] Ryan_Lane, hm, so what is blocking simply opening up registration then? [22:43:30] It's actually all ready from Labs' perspective [22:43:32] jenkins [22:43:50] hashar is working on fixing that, though [22:44:12] Jenkins is used for running tests on Gerrit changes (e.g. in MW core), isn't it? How is that related? [22:44:28] TParis: well, mediawiki also supports creating LDAP accounts via the LDAP authentication extension [22:44:32] which is how this is working [22:44:43] nice [22:44:52] Krenair: something to do with random people pushing in tests that can be problematic [22:45:01] we need to switch how the tests trigger [22:45:22] Ryan, if I PM you, would you mind creating an account for me? I need to look into moving UTRS off toolserver. [22:45:43] Ryan_Lane, wait, so is that a security issue with the fact that anyone can get the Jenkins machine to run code? [22:58:24] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by Cupco link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588778 edit summary: Bots stuff [23:01:58] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by Cupco link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588779 edit summary: clarify [23:03:49] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by Cupco link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588781 edit summary: Perl is here, but library is old [23:05:00] I've been able to install things with sudo on bots-3…. [23:07:14] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by Cupco link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588782 edit summary: explain [23:07:54] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by Cupco link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=588783 edit summary: not really done [23:13:31] Ryan_Lane, could you create an account for TParis on labs? [23:13:39] sure [23:13:53] TParis: can you send me your info in a PM, if you don't want to share your email address? [23:14:05] thanks, also when did you say labs was opening up for standard registration? [23:14:18] waiting on a change from the dev side of the house [23:14:29] it's ready from Labs' perspective [23:14:32] so, it should be fairly soon [23:15:04] ok :) [23:15:48] 09/29/2012 - 23:15:48 - User deltaquad may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bots,bastion,utrs [23:16:00] 09/29/2012 - 23:15:59 - Updating keys for deltaquad at /export/keys/deltaquad [23:16:08] ohai labs-home-wm [23:16:45] sigh [23:16:46] I used to love my scripts. now they annoy me because I know have better ways to implement the same thing and don't have time to do it : [23:16:46] :D [23:17:24] scripts are never the issue, people are always the issue [23:22:47] Mark item as done, leave explination, asks for explination.. grrrr I hate people [23:33:13] Ryan_Lane, we're trying to create an instance for UTRS but not sure what to for type/image type, TParis what did you say we need? [23:33:36] [19:31:59] Umm, we need PHP, mysql, and sockets [23:34:47] won't we need a webserver too so we can have people use the interface on the web? [23:34:56] *webserver = apache [23:35:27] I think on that Puppet information [23:35:28] -> expand bit you can state that [23:35:41] ya, there is quite a bit here, git, mysql [23:35:59] 09/29/2012 - 23:35:59 - Creating a home directory for isarra at /export/keys/isarra [23:36:02] i'm confused tbh on what to select [23:37:54] DeltaQuad: Yes, we need apache. We need about 1GB ram if we have our own instance of mysql or 512MB if it's just Apache. We'll need 1 processor core, or just be on shared processors. We dont need a tone of resources. 2GBs is plenty of hard drive space [23:38:06] UTRS is not resource intensive /at all/ [23:38:27] ton* [23:38:35] ok, so here is what i'm selecting: [23:38:42] webserver::apache2 [23:38:47] webserver::php5 [23:38:51] webserver::php5-mysql [23:39:17] mysql::conf [23:39:20] the php5-mysql...is that only the extension or is that mysql itself? [23:39:22] mysql::datadirs [23:39:23] ok [23:39:33] mysql::mysqluser [23:39:35] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resources:_Status_of_Wikimedia_Labs What is this? Why is it on the projects list? [23:39:54] Do we need php5-gd for the captcha or does the service provider do that part? [23:39:56] don't do that [23:40:10] webserver::php5 calls apache iirc so webserver::apache2 will make puppet complain [23:40:14] (we need to fix this) [23:40:31] so don't select apache2? [23:40:37] IIRC no [23:40:39] so just webserver-php5-mysql? [23:40:48] webserver::php5-mysql? [23:41:00] 09/29/2012 - 23:41:00 - Updating keys for isarra at /export/keys/isarra [23:41:01] I believe that should work [23:41:14] Will I need anthing db::*? [23:41:17] Krenair: It would appear to be a project, not sure wtf it's a project [23:41:19] yes [23:41:38] all 3? [23:41:55] and role::labs-mysql-server? [23:42:27] just for mysql, probably role::labs-mysql-server will do on its own [23:42:34] (we're moving to 'role' classes slowly) [23:43:02] do I need to fill in the blanks? [23:44:48] and i'm assuming I don't need anything else [23:45:25] blanks probably have defaults, not 100% sure without looking [23:53:02] Thehelpfulone: generally, use the defaults, but use an instance size of small or better [23:53:04] don't use tiny [23:53:09] also, avoid the s flavors [23:53:21] I really need to remove all of the other ones from the interface [23:54:43] does it matter what the instance name is? [23:54:56] * DeltaQuad selected m1.small [23:55:22] Ryan_Lane: I saw your talk at puppet conf [23:55:26] brb [23:55:48] DeltaQuad: generally try to choose an instance name that has something to do with its function and the project [23:55:55] instance names are globally unique [23:56:23] It was very good & especially encouraging for the newbie. I am definitely interested in helping write modules for wikimedia's puppet environment. [23:56:33] I really need to put some javascript checking in to warn people when names are taken [23:56:42] rocsteady: awesome [23:56:43] Who do I talk to to get started? I already cloned your environment & have access to my own instance. [23:56:50] in labs? [23:56:56] Yes [23:57:04] you should likely use puppetmaster::self [23:57:15] it'll let you make changes and test them [23:57:35] in the Manage instance interface, select "configure" for the instance [23:57:42] and add the puppetmaster::self class [23:57:48] then force run puppet in your instance [23:57:57] !puppetmasterself [23:57:58] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Self-hosted_puppetmaster [23:58:09] that page has some info [23:58:16] Okay cool [23:58:47] also, it's likely best to look through site.pp [23:59:00] to see which thing you want to start with first [23:59:08] clustered systems are likely to be difficult [23:59:18] misc services are probably a lot easier [23:59:32] rocsteady: the deployment-prep people for sure would likely love help [23:59:39] !project deployment-prep [23:59:39] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:deployment-prep