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[15:11:53] <iridescence>	 Hi! Anyone that could fulfill this quota request T259789?
[15:11:53] <stashbot>	 T259789: Request increased quota for tool-deno Toolforge tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259789
[15:41:23] <bd808>	 iridescence: I think balloons will get to that soon'ish
[15:42:04] <iridescence>	 Okay, nice
[15:44:28] <balloons>	 I am indeed! I'll have it for you soon
[16:11:21] <balloons>	 iridescence, sorry for the delay. I bumped your services to 5. Let us know if you need anything else.
[16:11:58] <iridescence>	 No problem. Thanks :)
[19:05:49] <Ed6767>	 Hi - I'm trying to set up a web proxy per the help pages, have Apache and the security rules set fine, but creating the proxy on Horizon fails with "Error: RecordSet belongs in a child zone: redwarn.wmcloud.org.
[19:06:37] <mutante>	 Ed6767: what is the proxy name you are trying to use?
[19:06:50] <mutante>	 redwarn ?
[19:06:52] <Ed6767>	 redwarn
[19:06:55] <Ed6767>	 Yeah
[19:08:03] <mutante>	 hmm. my proxy is still in wmflabs.org. it sounds like it would be connected to the migration from wmflabs to wmcloud domain
[19:09:16] <Ed6767>	 I could try the other domain but it wouldn't be ideal with it being legacy and all
[19:09:27] <mutante>	 Ed6767: i just checked and see both domains in the menu still
[19:09:32] <mutante>	 yes, try it
[19:09:51] <mutante>	 let's just see if it has that same error or not
[19:09:53] <Ed6767>	 Nope same error Error: RecordSet belongs in a child zone: redwarn.wmflabs.org.
[19:10:19] <mutante>	 did you do anyting in the "Zones" menu item before doing "Web Proxies" ?
[19:10:57] <Ed6767>	 Nope all default - did I miss something?
[19:11:30] <mutante>	 Ed6767: i dont know yet, but i just tried to create a proxy myself in a random project and it works
[19:11:40] <mutante>	 could not confirm the issue there
[19:11:40] <Ed6767>	 hm weird
[19:12:40] <mutante>	 did "redwarn" exist before and was then deleted? maybe a remnant?
[19:12:47] <mutante>	 would be tempted to try "redwarn2"
[19:13:05] <Ed6767>	 Could try rw Idk
[19:13:26] <Ed6767>	 Well that worked
[19:13:35] <Ed6767>	 Just doesn't really like redwarn then
[19:14:19] <mutante>	 Ed6767: well.. confirmed. 'redwarn' the word is bad :)
[19:14:25] <mutante>	 i get the same error when i try that
[19:14:38] <Ed6767>	 Thanks for you help!
[19:14:40] <mutante>	 it seems like this has been used before
[19:14:48] <mutante>	 it might still be worth a bug report though
[19:16:37] <Ed6767>	 Yh would be slightly useful if it said it had already been taken
[19:16:58] <Ed6767>	 Thanks again
[19:17:12] <mutante>	 i am not sure if this is just "already taken" or if it is a bug that an old thing never gets cleaned up all the way
[19:17:16] <mutante>	 you're welcome
[19:25:38] <Urbanecm>	 !log tools.stewardbots Deploy 987cd61
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[19:27:13] <Urbanecm>	 !log tools.stewardbots pip install sseclient
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[19:27:18] <Urbanecm>	 !log tools.stewardbots Restart stewardbots
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[19:40:15] <bd808>	 darn Ed6767 left. I know what caused that proxy failure.
[19:40:24] <bd808>	 and I'm not 100% sure how to fix it
[19:50:20] <Urbanecm>	 !log tools.stewardbots Run `delete from ignored;`
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[20:45:48] <Ed6767>	 Hi all- another question - I can't find in the docs anywhere how to force HTTPS and 301 redirect all HTTP requests to HTTPS? Because it's through the web proxy most Apache things I've tried haven't really worked
[20:48:12] <bd808>	 Ed6767: we do not have a force HTTPS feature yet at the HTTP proxy. You can do it on your backend web server. We send an X-Forwarded-Proto header along to your backend that you can inspect and redirect based on.
[20:48:39] * bd808 looks for an example of doing that with apache2 on the backend...
[20:52:20] <bd808>	 Ed6767: T227019 may have the config you need buried in it
[20:52:21] <stashbot>	 T227019: Redirect all space.wmflabs.org traffic to HTTPS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227019
[20:52:49] <bd808>	 and yes, we really need to flip the switch on https everywhere for domainproxy
[20:55:24] <Ed6767>	 Thanks
[21:46:17] <davidwbarratt>	 Is there any reason (privacy maybe?) that it would be better to have a test instance of MediaWiki on a Cloud VPS instead of Toolforge?
[21:47:37] <bd808>	 davidwbarratt: performance mostly. Toolforge's use of NFS can make MediaWiki feel pretty slow. It is totally possible though.
[21:50:40] <davidwbarratt>	 bd808 oh ok, cool, we have a test wiki on a VM right now, but I figure it might be a bit easier for people to manage it on toolforge
[21:53:07] * bd808 wonders how many MediaWikis are running on toolforge
[21:57:57] <davidwbarratt>	 for some reason when I setup the VM I was under the impression that you couldn't run MediaWiki on toolforge... I don't know why I thought that
[21:58:16] <davidwbarratt>	 or maybe I didn't want to deal with the /subfolder/ url
[21:58:20] <davidwbarratt>	 which isn't a problem now! :)
[21:58:46] <bd808>	 progress!
[21:58:58] <bd808>	 we don't move fast, but we try to keep moving
[22:11:22] <bd808>	 davidwbarratt: until recently, MacFan4000 and some others were running a MediaWiki instance under the zppixbot tool. Maybe they would share any tips or tricks they found in doing that with you. That would be a nice thing to try and document as a Toolforge tutorial.
[22:12:03] <davidwbarratt>	 bd808 ooo! thanks!
[22:12:44] * bd808 found that 61 tools have a LocalSettings.php file in their $HOME, but it looks like a lot of them are not actively running wikis
[22:13:59] <bd808>	 davidwbarratt: found a live one :) -- https://jayprakashbot.toolforge.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
[22:14:23] <davidwbarratt>	 bd808 nice!
[22:15:55] <MacFan4000>	 Hi
[22:18:44] <bd808>	 MacFan4000, meet davidwbarratt (WMF staff). davidwbarratt meet MacFan4000 (miraheze and wikimedia volunteer) :)
[23:00:56] <Platonides>	 I think the main thing to watch out with mediawiki is to avoid it getting abused :P
[23:01:26] <Platonides>	 in fact, I thought there was a "no big projects" rule, but there wasn't. I was probably remembering it from many years ago
[23:14:33] <davidwbarratt>	 MacFan4000 hello!
[23:20:09] <MacFan4000>	 Hi