[12:32:06] <Nemo_bis>	 There's a question here on how to increase concurrency for PHP tools https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACitation_bot&type=revision&diff=909438452&oldid=909417866
[12:39:45] <arturo>	 Nemo_bis: perhaps that's better discussed in phabricator?
[12:43:32] <Nemo_bis>	 arturo: I don't know, do you consider it a bug?
[12:43:54] <Nemo_bis>	 maybe there's some documentation which was missed
[12:44:08] <arturo>	 I don't know, but that kind of technical discussion is what I would expect to happen in phabricator rather than in-wiki
[12:45:11] <Nemo_bis>	 oh well, I have no control on that so I'll just cross fingers
[13:43:58] <jeh>	 !log tools disabling puppet on tools-checker-03 while testing nginx timeouts T221301
[13:44:03] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/SAL
[13:44:03] <stashbot>	 T221301: Toolschecker webservice checks get out of sync likely from timeouts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221301
[14:12:03] <bd808>	 Nemo_bis: I'm trying to follow the discussion there, but it is not making a lot of sense to me.
[14:43:33] <Nemo_bis>	 bd808: essentially, when one user is waiting for a response to a request to https://tools.wmflabs.org/citations/ all the other users appear to be blocked
[14:43:49] <Nemo_bis>	 I have never managed to figure out whether this is expected behaviour
[14:46:57] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Nemo_bis: from the default lighttpd config at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Web/Lighttpd, it looks like it runs two worker processes?
[14:47:07] <Lucas_WMDE>	 so I would expect half of other requests to be blocked, but not all of them
[14:47:13] <bd808>	 Nemo_bis: ah. ok. Probably partly how the tool is written and partly what Lucas_WMDE is pointing out
[14:47:23] <Lucas_WMDE>	 not sure how lighttpd interacts with the workers though
[14:47:48] <Lucas_WMDE>	 but raising max-procs (opposite of https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Web/Lighttpd#FCGI_Flask_config ) might be worth a try
[15:09:13] <Nemo_bis>	 Lucas_WMDE: thanks; I wasn't sure whether these could be overridden with kubernetes but I'll try to ask the maintainer to try
[15:20:17] <bd808>	 Nemo_bis: the .lighttpd.conf parts are the same for both grid and kubernetes
[15:58:57] <arturo>	 !log tools add hpham as user/projectadmin (T228942)
[15:59:01] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/SAL
[15:59:02] <stashbot>	 T228942: Onboard Hieu Pham to Wikimedia Foundation as SRE in Cloud Services - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228942
[16:18:11] <arturo>	 !log tools add phamhi as user/projectadmin (T228942) and delete hpham
[16:18:15] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/SAL
[16:18:15] <stashbot>	 T228942: Onboard Hieu Pham to Wikimedia Foundation as SRE in Cloud Services - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228942
[17:09:10] <accraze>	 !log deployment-prep deploying ores d08fa628aacb82529dbb4be357b68dd55c15fdee
[17:09:14] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Deployment-prep/SAL
[17:34:54] <Cyberpower678>	 anomie: what DB table has the namespaces defines?
[17:34:58] <Cyberpower678>	 *Defined?
[17:35:24] <Cyberpower678>	 Or is that a hardcoded setting in MW?
[17:37:56] <Cyberpower678>	 bd808: ^
[17:41:18] <Nemo_bis>	 Cyberpower678: it's in PHP files
[17:41:31] <Nemo_bis>	 we used to have a "meta" table for this IIRC
[17:43:23] <Nemo_bis>	 (It's not in meta_p.wiki.)
[17:43:32] <Cyberpower678>	 Nemo_bis: so the only way is via the API?
[17:45:05] <Nemo_bis>	 Cyberpower678: the only reliable way that I know of, yes
[17:45:18] <Nemo_bis>	 if you mean namespace *names*
[17:45:56] <Cyberpower678>	 Nemo_bis: yea.  I wanted to pull data from the page table and join a namespace table via the namespace column.  Oh well.
[17:46:19] <Cyberpower678>	 I was trying to reduce the number of queries I needed to make to get the data I need.
[17:46:19] <Nemo_bis>	 Cyberpower678: may I ask what for?
[17:47:02] <Cyberpower678>	 Nemo_bis: my IABot tool has a URL manager and domain manager for handling how IABot deals with them.  The tool provides a complete list of pages any given URL or domain is found on.
[17:47:14] <Cyberpower678>	 Sometimes a page outside of Mainspace is found.
[17:47:34] <Cyberpower678>	 The tool uses the DB to pull that data as it is faster in this instance.
[17:48:05] <Cyberpower678>	 But it has a a failover to the API if the replication DB goes down/away
[17:49:25] <Nemo_bis>	 Right. I don't remember how Magnus solved this. He used to have such a problem in glamtools for image usages
[17:50:33] <Cyberpower678>	 Well it's an easy fix for me.  I just wanted to know if there is a table for the DB that I can simply amend the DB query for.
[18:34:14] <viztor_>	 Hi,
[18:34:47] <viztor_>	 anyone know how should I request access to a cloud instance if I need to test a operations/puppet patch?
[18:42:22] <Krenair>	 depending on the patch in question there may already be a relevant place to test it