[09:22:27] !log toolsbeta delete all `toolsbeta-arturo-k8s-*` instances. We no longer require them per new approach at T215531 [09:22:29] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Toolsbeta/SAL [09:22:30] T215531: Deploy upgraded Kubernetes to toolsbeta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215531 [09:32:18] !log toolsbeta create `toolsbeta-test-k8s-worker-1` VM and a puppet prefix for it (T215531) [09:32:20] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Toolsbeta/SAL [09:32:20] T215531: Deploy upgraded Kubernetes to toolsbeta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215531 [10:49:43] !log toolsbeta recreate `toolsbeta-test-k8s-master-1` VM (T215531) [10:49:46] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Toolsbeta/SAL [10:49:46] T215531: Deploy upgraded Kubernetes to toolsbeta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215531 [14:01:07] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @CFisch_WMDE & @nuria - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:03:25] !log machine-vision created visionoid instance [14:03:26] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Machine-vision/SAL [14:50:51] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @CFisch_WMDE & @nuria - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [18:18:02] is it possible to access Toolforge via paws.wmflabs.org terminal? [19:29:03] ashot: Probably not, no. PAWS actually runs on the same virtual instances as Toolforge, but there is no way to cross over from the PAWS shell space (which is inside a Kubernetes cluster) into the Toolforge bastion space (which is what I'm assuming you are interested in doing) [19:29:58] ashot: if I misunderstood you question though, please do tell me a bit more about what you were hoping to do from the PAWS shell. Maybe there are ways to accomplish some or all of you goal [19:30:47] From the PAWS shell you should be able to talk to the Wiki Replica databases as well as MediaWiki APIs [19:31:47] But not to access files on the Toolforge NFS server where tools keep their files nor to talk to the Grid Engine grid or the Toolforge Kubernetes grid (different from the PAWS backend Kubernetes grid) [19:33:30] thank you dear, bd808. I'm using windows. I know how to edit my tool at Toolforge from Linux (via ssh), it is not so easy from windows. I will use virtual machine :D [19:35:12] ashot: *nod* I kind of thought that might be why you were asking. T144713 is a long opne feature request for a web shell into Toolforge. I think its a cool idea, but we have never had anyone with time to work on it. [19:35:16] T144713: Add a web shell allowing people to perform actions as their tool from striker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144713 [19:36:36] ashot: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access_to_Toolforge_instances_with_PuTTY_and_WinSCP -- that page is probably the most "windows friendly" thing we have documented [19:37:47] I used to use PuTTY a lot when I ran a Windows workstation, but that has been quite a few years ago now so my personal knowledge is very dated (something like 10 years out of date today) [19:38:57] Things like https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/ubuntu/9nblggh4msv6 are also possible too with the right version of Windows [19:40:04] Related article -- https://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/ [19:40:52] thank you very very much! ^_^ [19:40:55] bash on windows was awesome when i used :) [19:41:15] though was slowish for me (and i haven't used it in 3 years) [19:48:01] IIRC bash on windows has some problems with user input [20:22:36] Bash in WSL 2 on windows is great from my perspective [20:22:56] Overall, I'm pretty happy with WSL2 except that I have to use hyperv for all my virtualization whatnot [20:23:15] I should probably update our documentation with some of the tricks I figure out there. [20:23:22] *figured [20:23:32] like using the openssh agent that comes with windows [20:23:42] Much nicer than putty [20:23:46] bstorm_: it would be awesome to have a bit more modern Windows setup help on wikitech [20:24:17] I'll make myself a task for it. I totally forgot to update the mediawiki vagrant docs too...that's working great on hyperv. [20:24:47] I ended up making a bug for python3, though (which was declared critical and fixed) because it was broken on Windows Insiders (fast ring) :-p [20:25:05] venv was what was broken, that is. [21:01:55] !log deployment-prep deploying ores 676f7ba43c23e7b6dfa20b3b3c03924cb49acb90 [21:01:58] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Deployment-prep/SAL [21:02:04] \o/