[00:01:22] <eddiegp>	 bd808: One last thing, could you check grep secret/common for 'novaconfig'? It's the only thing in the private labs.yaml, and secret/common is between that  labs.yaml and common.yaml in the hierarchy, so it could override whatever is in common.yaml. If the grep returns nothing, I could merge labs.yaml into common.yaml.
[00:01:32] <bd808>	 quite possibly. I'm remembering that there is something weird about when common.yaml is actually used, but that may be in production with the role() custom function...
[00:05:36] <bd808>	 eddiegp: If anybody is overriding novaconfig they are just breaking things :)
[00:06:16] <bd808>	 that's OpenStack level stuff that could only change by OpenStack deployment
[00:07:38] <eddiegp>	 Yeah, it's just dummy passwords anyway. I'll just put them into common.yaml then :)
[00:08:39] <bd808>	 at least some of them are real passwords, but they are for accounts that are not meant to be "secure"
[00:10:06] <bd808>	 I've got to disappear for IRL stuff. see y'all later
[00:10:38] <eddiegp>	 bd808: Okay. Thanks for all the help! :)
[00:15:38] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10EddieGP: hiera: Kill some hiera paths [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423189
[00:54:20] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10EddieGP: "As far as the (proven to be outdated on other issues today) docs say, role-based lookup isn't supported in labs puppet. Although I don't k" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423178 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191110) (owner: 10MarcoAurelio)
[10:05:30] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10MarcoAurelio: Revert "hieradata: fix for deployment-tin/mira lack of ::git_owner" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423231
[10:06:54] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10MarcoAurelio: "> In re. EddieGP" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423178 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191110) (owner: 10MarcoAurelio)
[10:15:12] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10EddieGP: [C: 031] Revert "hieradata: fix for deployment-tin/mira lack of ::git_owner" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423231 (owner: 10MarcoAurelio)
[10:39:07] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10EddieGP: hiera: Remove unused paths [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423233
[13:17:33] <LosVegas>	 hi
[13:17:52] <LosVegas>	 i need to help to start my bot on toolforge
[13:18:28] <chicocvenancio>	 Hi LosVegas 
[13:18:35] <chicocvenancio>	 What do you need? 
[13:18:54] <LosVegas>	 i need to start my bot on toolforge
[13:19:28] <LosVegas>	 how i do?
[13:19:32] <chicocvenancio>	 Ok, what have you tried so far? What difficulty are you having? 
[13:19:56] <LosVegas>	 my difficulty is run shell ssh 
[13:21:28] <chicocvenancio>	 LosVegas: have you read the Getting Started page in Wikitech? 
[13:21:34] <LosVegas>	 yes
[13:22:00] <LosVegas>	 but I can not
[13:22:34] <LosVegas>	 so i am stupid
[13:22:39] <chicocvenancio>	 What step are you having trouble with? 
[13:23:40] <LosVegas>	 I do not know how to start the shell
[13:24:10] <chicocvenancio>	 What OS do you use? 
[13:24:18] <LosVegas>	 windows 10
[13:24:57] <chicocvenancio>	 You need putty or another ssh client
[13:25:05] <LosVegas>	 i have putty
[13:25:14] <LosVegas>	 have got*
[13:25:33] <chicocvenancio>	 Ok, than what is the error? 
[13:25:40] <chicocvenancio>	 *then
[13:25:47] <LosVegas>	  I do not know which link to insert in the string
[13:26:17] <chicocvenancio>	 The server name? 
[13:26:23] <LosVegas>	 yes
[13:27:03] <chicocvenancio>	 What is your shell username? 
[13:27:21] <LosVegas>	 EHM
[13:27:25] <LosVegas>	 I DONT KNOW
[13:27:45] <LosVegas>	 https://toolsadmin.wikimedia.org/tools/id/botvegas
[13:30:45] <chicocvenancio>	 You chose the shell username `losvegas`
[13:30:51] <LosVegas>	 i think is losvegas
[13:30:53] <LosVegas>	 yes
[13:31:28] <chicocvenancio>	 So the host name for putty can be `losvegas@login.tools.wmflabs.org`
[13:31:51] <chicocvenancio>	 You also need to set your private key in putty for it to work
[13:32:06] <LosVegas>	 yes
[13:32:11] <LosVegas>	 i have setted
[13:32:16] <LosVegas>	 ok thanks
[13:32:38] <LosVegas>	 and the port?
[13:32:42] <chicocvenancio>	 22
[13:33:06] <chicocvenancio>	 There is a more comprehensive guide at Help:Access_to_Toolforge_instances_with_PuTTY_and_WinSCP
[13:33:22] <LosVegas>	 ok thanks you
[13:33:24] <chicocvenancio>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access_to_Toolforge_instances_with_PuTTY_and_WinSCP
[13:33:43] <chicocvenancio>	 You're welcome 
[13:33:52] <LosVegas>	 ehm
[13:33:59] <LosVegas>	 i have a error
[13:34:42] <chicocvenancio>	 Could you share the error, LosVegas? 
[13:34:42] <LosVegas>	 "no suppurted autentacations method"
[13:35:08] <chicocvenancio>	 That usually means you did not set the private key in putty 
[13:35:47] <LosVegas>	 i have got setted by puttygen
[13:36:06] <chicocvenancio>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20130526_2133_Putty_Login_Connection_SSH_Auth.png
[13:36:43] <chicocvenancio>	 Puttygen creates the key, it does not set it for the connection in putty
[13:48:09] <LosVegas>	 how i save the key?
[13:51:46] <LosVegas>	 no ok
[13:51:50] <LosVegas>	 i resolved
[13:54:04] <chicocvenancio>	 LosVegas: before working on your bot you should use the tool account 
[13:54:27] <chicocvenancio>	 Also, there is a ready installed pywikibot in Toolforge 
[13:55:02] <chicocvenancio>	 You may install your own version, but usually is not needed and will mean more work for you
[13:55:45] <chicocvenancio>	 To use the tool account type `become botvegas`
[14:05:50] <LosVegas>	 how i do to see files in my repository??
[14:07:00] <chicocvenancio>	 LosVegas: please start by using your tool account 
[14:07:13] <LosVegas>	 ho i do??
[14:07:25] <chicocvenancio>	 10:55 <chicocvenancio> To use the tool account type `become botvegas`
[14:07:57] <chicocvenancio>	 Pywikibot is already installed in Toolforge 
[14:08:13] <chicocvenancio>	 It will be easier to use that shared install 
[14:09:10] <LosVegas>	 ah ok
[14:09:28] <chicocvenancio>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Developing#Using_the_shared_Pywikibot_files_(recommended_setup)
[14:09:38] <chicocvenancio>	 LosVegas: ^
[14:10:01] <LosVegas>	 no, i prefer to install
[14:11:02] <LosVegas>	 how i upload a file?
[14:11:28] <LosVegas>	 i have saved script on my computer, i'd like to upload on my boy
[14:11:35] <LosVegas>	 bot*
[14:13:40] <chicocvenancio>	 Easiest way from windows is WinSCP 
[14:13:54] <chicocvenancio>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access_to_Toolforge_instances_with_PuTTY_and_WinSCP
[14:15:50] <LosVegas>	 chico
[14:15:57] <LosVegas>	 i have botpassword
[14:16:12] <LosVegas>	 how i insert it in puttuy?
[14:16:33] <chicocvenancio>	 What is it you want to do? 
[14:17:06] <LosVegas>	 i have generated botpassword with [[special:BotPassword]]
[14:17:19] <chicocvenancio>	 Bot password is not something for putty 
[14:17:34] <chicocvenancio>	 It is for you access to wikis
[14:17:57] <LosVegas>	 i konw
[14:18:27] <LosVegas>	 i have typed python pwb.py generate user files
[14:18:32] <LosVegas>	 now
[14:18:39] <LosVegas>	 for password
[14:19:27] <LosVegas>	 toolserver ask Do you want to add a BotPassword for Bot Vegas? ([y]es, [N]o, [q]uit):
[14:19:45] <LosVegas>	 that i answer???
[14:20:38] <chicocvenancio>	 That really depends on how you setup your bot
[14:20:51] <chicocvenancio>	 How did you have it setup before? 
[14:23:47] <LosVegas>	 i have got setted the bot password
[14:24:05] <LosVegas>	 and now i have logged the bot with botpassword
[14:25:41] <LosVegas>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/tool-botvegas/
[14:25:47] <LosVegas>	 why is empty?
[14:25:58] <LosVegas>	 i have installed pywikibot now
[14:26:27] <chicocvenancio>	 That is a git repository 
[14:26:52] <chicocvenancio>	 You need to commit and push stuff to it for anything to be there
[14:27:06] <chicocvenancio>	 It is not automatic from your tools folder 
[14:28:19] <chicocvenancio>	 See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git
[14:30:37] <LosVegas>	 how i do
[14:32:43] <LosVegas>	 to see my files
[14:32:47] <LosVegas>	 how i do?
[14:33:26] <chicocvenancio>	 Beyond the `ls` command? 
[14:38:12] <LosVegas>	 ok, but for se in web?
[14:38:45] <chicocvenancio>	 You can't 
[14:38:56] <LosVegas>	 ok
[14:39:06] <LosVegas>	 chicho
[14:39:15] <LosVegas>	 i would like upload a file
[14:39:23] <LosVegas>	 example.py
[14:39:32] <LosVegas>	 how i do?
[14:40:50] <chicocvenancio>	 WinSCP is the easiest optiom
[14:40:56] <chicocvenancio>	 *option
[14:41:14] <LosVegas>	 and putty?
[14:41:21] <LosVegas>	 i can do it with putty?
[14:43:25] <chicocvenancio>	 I don't think so
[14:44:53] <chicocvenancio>	 Did you download the pscp.exe?
[14:45:56] <chicocvenancio>	 Or psftp.exe
[14:47:14] <LosVegas>	 i have downloaded winscp
[14:47:16] <LosVegas>	 now 
[14:47:24] <LosVegas>	 what i need to set?
[14:47:40] <LosVegas>	 FTP,SFTP,SCP,
[14:47:48] <chicocvenancio>	 Scp 
[14:47:58] <chicocvenancio>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access_to_Toolforge_instances_with_PuTTY_and_WinSCP
[14:48:58] <LosVegas>	 password?
[14:51:36] <chicocvenancio>	 As in putty, it needs your private key 
[14:53:36] <LosVegas>	 ok
[14:53:41] <LosVegas>	 i have new problem
[14:53:46] <LosVegas>	 username
[14:54:23] <LosVegas>	 i have to put  losvegas or botvegas ?
[14:58:54] <LosVegas>	 OK I RESOLVED
[14:58:58] <LosVegas>	 THANKS YOU
[14:59:04] <LosVegas>	 THANKS YOU SO MUCH
[14:59:30] <LosVegas>	  if it was not for you I would be lost
[14:59:44] <LosVegas>	 thanks thanks thanks 
[14:59:45] <chicocvenancio>	 No problem
[15:00:08] <LosVegas>	  I would make you a statue
[17:16:35] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10Dzahn: Revert "hieradata: fix for deployment-tin/mira lack of ::git_owner" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423247
[17:17:13] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Dzahn: [V: 032 C: 032] Revert "hieradata: fix for deployment-tin/mira lack of ::git_owner" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423247 (owner: 10Dzahn)
[17:27:29] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Dzahn: [V: 032 C: 032] "replaced by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423232" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423247 (owner: 10Dzahn)
[17:44:28] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10EddieGP: "Done in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/423247" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423231 (owner: 10MarcoAurelio)
[20:43:17] <wikibugs>	 (03Abandoned) 10Dzahn: Revert "hieradata: fix for deployment-tin/mira lack of ::git_owner" [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423231 (owner: 10MarcoAurelio)