[09:33:19] <Snoke>	 !log rcm CAC: Deleted the server (planned)
[09:33:20] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Rcm/SAL
[09:35:40] <Snoke>	 I'm currently using two labs projects for nearly the same purpose, and I'd prefer to merge them. Is it possible to add the quote from the old project to the other one, so that I can migrate it, and then delete the old project?
[09:36:50] <chicocvenancio>	 Snoke: start with the extra quota request and explain the situation in the task
[09:45:11] <Snoke>	 chicocvenancio: ok, thx
[16:10:54] <Amir1>	 !log wikilabels 8e37f04 is going to staging
[16:10:55] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Wikilabels/SAL
[16:18:51] <Amir1>	 !log wikilabels 1dddaa2  is going to staging
[16:18:52] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Wikilabels/SAL
[16:20:58] <Amir1>	 !log wikilabels 1dddaa2 is going to prod
[16:20:59] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Wikilabels/SAL
[16:55:57] <sau226>	 Umm is it possible for something a bit advanced to be run on toolserver (e.g CentralAuth) or is something else required?
[17:15:19] <chicocvenancio>	 sau226: could you rephrase that question? 
[17:16:33] <chicocvenancio>	 Do you mean Toolforge, instead of toolserver? And what is the specific requirements of what you need to run? 
[17:17:37] <sau226>	 Ok. If I want a self run environment to test an extension that is multiwikied (e.g CentralAuth or GlobalBlocking) do I need anything bigger than a toolforge project (tools project) assuming I use more than 1 wiki
[17:18:29] <sau226>	 1. More than 1 wiki and 2. Custom DB (say 2)
[17:20:47] <chasemp>	 sau226: in my exp testing mediawiki development in toolforge is a pain in the neck if possible, for your situation most ppl would request their own VPS project and use mediawiki-vagrant iiuc
[17:21:31] <sau226>	 So if I want to test it I need a VPS project? Where can I ask for one?
[17:21:51] <chicocvenancio>	 Just a sec
[17:25:30] <sau226>	 Om
[17:25:37] <sau226>	 *Ok
[17:32:51] <chicocvenancio>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2875/
[17:33:00] <chicocvenancio>	 sau226: ^
[17:33:06] <sau226>	 Ok
[17:38:30] <sau226>	 Will fo
[18:18:41] <Neha16>	 andrewbogott: Hi! I wanted to setup local testing environment for the gsoc project improvements for the toolforge webservice command. Could you please provide me more information on this?
[18:19:42] <andrewbogott>	 Neha16: Hello!
[18:20:33] <andrewbogott>	 I think having an actual local testing system is going to be very difficult, since webservices specifically involves communication between multiple different hosts.  Probably we'll need to set up a VPS project instead, or find some way to piggyback off of the existing tools-beta project.
[18:20:44] <andrewbogott>	 I think that chicocvenancio had some thoughts about this
[18:23:52] <Neha16>	 andrewbogott: I see. Then what should be my next step?
[18:25:53] <andrewbogott>	 Neha16: Depending on what other responsibilities you have going on right now, it would be perfectly reasonable for you to just wait until you hear back about internship approval (we have decisions to make on our part and there's also a funding approval step that I'm unsure about.)
[18:26:21] <andrewbogott>	 That said — if you want to learn more, the first step is probably to learn to actually use the system as it currently exists.  If you haven't already done that and don't have a current tools account I can help you get that set up.
[18:26:39] <andrewbogott>	 The first step in improving a tool is knowing and hating the current tool :)
[18:27:30] <madhuvishy>	 This is a good first step https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/My_first_Flask_OAuth_tool
[18:28:34] <Neha16>	 andrewbogott: That would be a great first step. Thank you so much. I'll start with that
[18:28:53] <Neha16>	 madhuvishy: Thanks a lot!
[18:29:02] <andrewbogott>	 Neha16: if you request a tools account I can approve it right now (if you don't have one already)
[18:32:34] <Neha16>	 andrewbogott: Thanks. I'll create a tools account right away:)
[18:34:51] <wikibugs>	 (03PS1) 10Bstorm: wiki-replicas: add user for index maintenance script [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/422209
[18:37:04] <andrewbogott>	 Neha16: approved :)  You should be able to ssh to tools-login.wmflabs.org once your keys are set up.
[18:37:28] <Neha16>	 andrewbogott: Thanks :)
[19:23:30] <chicocvenancio>	 Neha16: my thinking is setting up a scaled down version of what we have on Toolforge in a beta project. I won't have time to start this until Friday, and it probably will take me more than a day. 
[19:26:34] <zhuyifei1999_>	 chicocvenancio: Mind me working on it?
[19:27:12] <zhuyifei1999_>	 I'm pretty busy this week though I can try me best to get it done asap
[19:28:10] <zhuyifei1999_>	 (how much quota in toolsbeta do we have?)
[19:28:46] <chicocvenancio>	 Not much, but I can remake the paws beta nodes with smaller flavors
[19:29:12] <zhuyifei1999_>	 k
[19:29:23] <chicocvenancio>	 Though they need more storage then the small flavor they don't need much CPU or ram
[19:30:06] <tgr>	 bd808: could you review https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189541#4084944 ? or suggest someone who could do it?
[19:30:30] <chicocvenancio>	 And I don't mind you working on it at all
[19:30:42] <zhuyifei1999_>	 k
[19:32:58] <chicocvenancio>	 tgr: bd.808 is on sfo for wikilead, might take him a while to see/respond
[19:35:03] <tgr>	 thx, I don't think it is that urgent
[20:50:16] <wikibugs>	 (03PS2) 10Bstorm: wiki-replicas: add user for index maintenance script [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/422209
[20:52:04] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Bstorm: [V: 032] wiki-replicas: add user for index maintenance script [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/422209 (owner: 10Bstorm)
[20:52:09] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Bstorm: [V: 032 C: 032] wiki-replicas: add user for index maintenance script [labs/private] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/422209 (owner: 10Bstorm)
[21:30:07] <zhuyifei1999_>	 andrewbogott: is there a way, as a project admin, to add myself to 'toolsbeta.admin' service group? the instances marked as 'infrastructure' don't allow non-root-or-toolsbeta.admin to ssh in
[21:31:55] <zhuyifei1999_>	 I don't see the option in horizon
[21:33:05] <chasemp>	 zhuyifei1999_: that is managed via toolsadmin interface for the tools project itself but I'm not sure if that allos managing service group sfor other projects
[21:33:07] <chasemp>	 it may be a one-off
[21:33:29] <zhuyifei1999_>	 hmm
[21:33:37] <zhuyifei1999_>	 yeah I kind of expected that
[21:38:55] <andrewbogott>	 zhuyifei1999_: a little bit of context for that can be found under https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162945
[21:39:14] <andrewbogott>	 in short: we decided that service groups weren't good for much and I disabled the UI for them.
[21:39:41] <andrewbogott>	 That means that we should probably figure out a different workaround for those particular VMs (with permission from whoever locked them down in the first place)
[21:40:11] <zhuyifei1999_>	 it's https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/production/modules/toollabs/manifests/infrastructure.pp#L14
[21:40:21] <zhuyifei1999_>	 they apply toolforge puppet roles
[23:58:07] <zhuyifei1999_>	 chicocvenancio: when you get time, could you check my lists at T190895 & T190893?
[23:58:07] <stashbot>	 T190895: Request increased quota for toolsbeta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190895
[23:58:07] <stashbot>	 T190893: Setup the webservice-related instances in toolsbeta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190893