[20:59:24] <Success>	 ayyo i'm new just set up an account
[20:59:48] <Vermont>	 Hi.
[21:06:40] <chicocvenancio>	 Hi Success 
[21:06:49] <chicocvenancio>	 Do you need help?
[21:06:54] <chicocvenancio>	 Hi Vermont 
[21:07:03] <Success>	 hey chicocvenancio hey Vermont 
[21:07:55] <Success>	 right now i'm digging through the gerrits and reading some help: guides while repos are cloning
[21:10:13] <chicocvenancio>	 cool
[21:10:38] <chicocvenancio>	 Success: what do you have in mind for contributting now?
[21:12:57] <Success>	 javascript mainly i suppose
[21:13:16] <chicocvenancio>	 cool
[21:13:58] <chicocvenancio>	 ping me if you need help with our cloud services or something else
[21:14:41] <Success>	 yeah about that i didn't really understand what the purpose of the cloud_vps or toolforge thing so
[21:14:49] <Success>	 that would be nice :p
[21:15:16] <chicocvenancio>	 sure
[21:16:30] <chicocvenancio>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Cloud_Services_Introduction this is the general overview
[21:16:54] <chicocvenancio>	 sometimes volunteers (or affiliates, and even WMF itself) need resources for creating or maintaining tools that help the Wikimedia movement in some way
[21:17:43] <chicocvenancio>	 we provide resources (CPU, RAM, storage) to host these tools
[21:18:44] <chicocvenancio>	 we also have data services, we provide ready access to replicas of the Wikimedia wikis databases for querying
[21:21:15] <chicocvenancio>	 Toolforge is the simpler form of our hosting services, it works as platform for the tools to be run, with an already setup system and installed languages and some system libraries
[21:24:15] <Success>	 ah that makes sense and i somehow missed that page thanks
[21:24:47] <chicocvenancio>	 if it doesn't suit the needs of a particular tool, Cloud VPS is a service we provide with  a more "manage your own server" approach
[21:25:15] <chicocvenancio>	 and we also have PAWS https://paws.wmflabs.org
[21:25:51] <chicocvenancio>	 which is a much simpler entry point for basic exploring
[21:26:29] <chicocvenancio>	 but, doesn't yet suit a lot of uses for tools and bots
[21:27:49] <Success>	 interesting it won't let me sign in to that; but i don't have the proxy set up yet either if it needs it
[21:29:03] <Success>	 oh nevermind need a meta account sorry
[21:33:22] <Success>	 oh kek it used my wikipedia password instead of wikimedia password thats strange (same usernames)
[23:43:31] <zhuyifei1999_>	 chicocvenancio: that ERR_SPDY_PROTOCOL_ERROR is one of those weird generic errors. cookies might be one of the possible causes
[23:44:23] <chicocvenancio>	 yes, seems like it
[23:44:47] <chicocvenancio>	 no clue why its setting the wrong token in the cookies in the first place
[23:45:05] <chicocvenancio>	 but clearing it gets it into a working state
[23:45:21] <zhuyifei1999_>	 phab search on that error might have some hints (I’m outside right now and phab on mobile isn’t as usable as desktop)
[23:46:00] <zhuyifei1999_>	 I remember something about having too many cookies generated some weird errors
[23:46:58] <chicocvenancio>	 zhuyifei1999_: thats an understament, about phab on mobile
[23:47:22] <chicocvenancio>	 I decided to clear the cookies and leave it at that until at least another user complains
[23:47:46] <zhuyifei1999_>	 maybe I’m just unused to it
[23:48:03] <chicocvenancio>	 well, I can't use it either