[01:15:35] <legoktm>	 chicocvenancio: no, Firefox 57+ on Linux supports a headless mode
[01:16:12] <chicocvenancio>	 cool, didn't know
[01:17:27] <chicocvenancio>	 just remembered me setting up xvfv for testing with firefox
[01:17:49] <chicocvenancio>	 and that sometimes it would segfault when I failed to set the display correctly
[01:19:52] <legoktm>	 I think it's probably some version mismatch somewhere...the firefox in the trusty repos is super old, 28
[01:21:02] <legoktm>	 and I'm trying to run 58 here
[02:04:59] <zhuyifei1999_>	 legoktm: I think I got this problem before, even with ESR
[02:05:54] <zhuyifei1999_>	 worked on precise and jessie, but not trusty hosts. didn't debug further
[03:53:04] <legoktm>	 zhuyifei1999_: heh, precise is even more ancient! yeah I've given up and making it work with ESR on stretch now
[11:16:02] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [labs/tools/heritage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/413349 (owner: 10L10n-bot)
[12:19:18] <Hauskatze>	 !log tools.stewardbots taking down the bots and restarting them
[12:19:20] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.stewardbots/SAL
[16:31:04] <bstorm_>	 !log tools Enabled puppet on tools-static-12 as the test server
[16:31:09] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/SAL
[16:32:24] <bd808>	 bstorm_: its happening! :)
[16:32:35] <bstorm_>	 lol
[17:25:41] <arturo>	 chicocvenancio: ---> dsaez
[17:26:15] <chicocvenancio>	 dsaez: Diego, I see you're having trouble with PAWS
[17:43:36] <chicocvenancio>	 !log paws manually ran culler inside hub container
[17:43:39] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Paws/SAL
[18:02:48] <dsaez>	 hi chicovenancio and arturo
[18:03:08] <chicocvenancio>	 Hi dsaez 
[18:03:24] <chicocvenancio>	 at this point I just want to confirm your PAWS problems are over
[18:03:38] <dsaez>	 not yet:( 
[18:03:50] <chicocvenancio>	 oh, I see you responded in hangouts its still giving you problems
[18:03:59] <dsaez>	 yep
[18:04:06] <chicocvenancio>	 the last attempt I have for you is 30 minutes ago
[18:04:22] <chicocvenancio>	 and it went through (finally)
[18:04:22] <dsaez>	 the server never starts 
[18:04:32] <chicocvenancio>	 have you tried in the last half hour?
[18:05:27] <dsaez>	 yes
[18:05:30] <dsaez>	 I've tried
[18:05:59] <dsaez>	 I created another account, just for testing called bakutest, and that's works good, but I want to keep my work in my WMF account
[18:06:43] <chicocvenancio>	 dsaez: can you try again with the WMF account?
[18:07:10] <chicocvenancio>	 we're having two separate issues with users starting servers in PAWS
[18:07:30] <dsaez>	 sure
[18:07:45] <chicocvenancio>	 at this point both are corrected, if you still can't start a server this is a different issue/one of them is still a problem
[18:08:43] <dsaez>	 chicocvenancio: now is working!
[18:09:00] <dsaez>	 but... public link is not :(
[18:09:16] <chicocvenancio>	 great! hopefully it is as well for the other 12 affected users
[18:09:30] <chicocvenancio>	 dsaez: the public link is usercase issue
[18:10:15] <chicocvenancio>	 as in T180336
[18:10:16] <dsaez>	 there is any work around?
[18:10:16] <stashbot>	 T180336: PAWS public-link is lowercase but the paws-public server is case-sensitive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180336
[18:10:43] <chicocvenancio>	 just type your username in the URL
[18:11:08] <dsaez>	 amazing!
[18:11:14] <dsaez>	 great! thanks
[18:11:36] <dsaez>	 by the way, are you the new hire from Sao Luis do Maranhao?
[18:11:47] <chicocvenancio>	 yes, thats me
[18:12:10] <dsaez>	 wow! I love that state! House of Brazilian Reggae!
[18:13:59] <chicocvenancio>	 Precisely! The reggae museum opened here a few months ago to honor that
[18:14:47] <chicocvenancio>	 I'm working with this terrible landscape right now  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/a9sY2ls6/irccloudcapture655154940.jpg
[18:15:14] <dsaez>	 yeah.
[18:15:20] <dsaez>	 I was there in 2011
[18:16:15] <dsaez>	 On my way to Barreirinhas and lençóis maranhenses, 
[18:17:24] <paladox>	 chicocvenancio at least it's hot there :)
[18:18:03] <chicocvenancio>	 paladox: there is a lot wind here, not unpleasant at all 
[18:18:15] <paladox>	 heh
[18:18:42] <bd808>	 I woke up to about three inches of new snow :(
[18:18:54] <paladox>	 bd808 we are forcasted for snow too
[18:19:08] <paladox>	 but who knows the forecast may change. :)
[18:19:30] <dsaez>	 chicocvenancio, seja bemvido, e qualquer coisa de que se precise, é só falar ;)
[18:20:47] <paladox>	 chicocvenancio though, we only recently started getting snow frequently. (decemeber) other then that it hadent snowed like that since 2013. (stuck to the ground halting everything)
[18:21:50] <Hauskatze>	 bd808: that's what, 15 cm?
[18:22:09] <Hauskatze>	 bd808: we have in some places 2 meters high of snow here
[18:22:14] <chicocvenancio>	 dsaez: obrigado. Saw your reply on WMFALL thanks
[18:25:05] <dsaez>	 oh, true.
[19:20:56] <madhuvishy>	 chicocvenancio: I merged the web admins PR
[19:21:07] <madhuvishy>	 travis will do its thing
[19:21:23] <chicocvenancio>	 Thanks madhuvishy 
[19:21:36] <madhuvishy>	 you can look at https://travis-ci.org/yuvipanda/paws
[19:21:56] <madhuvishy>	 which isnt loading for me for some reason
[21:13:41] <chicocvenancio>	 !log paws jupyterhub updated to fix culler (T175202) culler already ran without 404
[21:13:44] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Paws/SAL
[21:13:44] <stashbot>	 T175202: Cull Idle does not work on pAWS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175202
[21:15:01] <madhuvishy>	 !log shinken add Chico Venancio as member and project admin
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[21:17:08] <leila>	 hi people. I'm using, I think, SWAP, and I ran into a question. Can I share my notebook with others for collaborative coding?
[21:17:43] <madhuvishy>	 leila: SWAP doesn't have that ability
[21:18:02] <madhuvishy>	 (nor does PAWS, but it allows to share public versions of the notebook)
[21:18:05] <leila>	 madhuvishy: got you. What is the best workaround you recommend?
[21:18:42] <madhuvishy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156934
[21:19:07] <madhuvishy>	 you can physically copy the notebook to someone else with cp on the server
[21:19:29] <madhuvishy>	 (also meta note to use #analytics for SWAP things :))
[21:19:49] <leila>	 I guess I can only try to give that ticket some more hearts, madhuvishy. :D
[21:20:54] <leila>	 okay, for now we can do cp as a workaround. 
[21:21:12] <leila>	 madhuvishy: what do you think should happen for that task to be resolved?
[21:21:34] <chicocvenancio>	 leila: what would the requirements be?
[21:22:32] <leila>	 chicocvenancio: basically, why is it not done? :) is it that it's a low priority, or a bad approach (in which case it would be good decline it), or it's high priority but we don't have resources for it? or some other reason.
[21:22:34] <madhuvishy>	 chicocvenancio: this is the internal jupyterhub that is run very differently from paws
[21:22:47] <madhuvishy>	 and not owned by cloud services :)
[21:22:54] <chicocvenancio>	 sharing with some form of authentication (a private, shareable link) should be possible, but I'm not sure about two users collaborating on the same notebook 
[21:24:18] <madhuvishy>	 leila: collaborative notebooks don't really exist in jupyterhub land now. PAWS does have sharing, and that's using a custom proxy yuvi built - it's not a thing on SWAP. The real answer for all of it is that no one works on feature development on SWAP, I only make sure it's up and running
[21:25:43] <leila>	 I see, madhuvishy. Is feature development for SWAP part of any team's goal (that you know of) for FY18-19?
[21:25:45] <madhuvishy>	 forking notebooks is a feature we've talked about for PAWS - but that's not a think that's on the horizon soon, probably next year we'll have more space for thinking about it. again - that won't have any impact one way or other on SWAP
[21:26:01] <madhuvishy>	 leila: No, I don't.
[21:26:47] <madhuvishy>	 i think analytics had it in their annual plan last year, may be this year too? unsure.
[21:26:55] <leila>	 madhuvishy: I see. so it won't happen in next fiscal. :( Okay. I'll make a note in the task.
[22:11:16] <chicocvenancio>	 !log paws (T175202) culler is running and killing pods as designed!
[22:11:19] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Paws/SAL
[22:11:19] <stashbot>	 T175202: Cull Idle does not work on pAWS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175202