[00:00:08] I like a lot the definition of the GPL for that [00:00:42] source code, object code, bytecode, machine code, microcode [00:00:44] "The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it." [00:01:15] so if you get C that is not very readable then I guess it's not source code [00:01:55] hehe [00:01:56] but if it's as readable as the Vala original file, I don't see why it wound't count as source code, especially if you have a tool to go back and forth between the two languages [00:02:50] In the case of the migrations that post was talking about the goal was really to migrate away from COBOL and have maintainable java, so then the new code becomes the preffered form of the work for making modifications to it... [00:03:16] So the tool is then a transpiler and not a compiler according to that definition [00:03:29] whereas gcc or javac is a compiler [00:03:32] *are compilers [00:03:49] And valac would then be a compiler too [09:12:48] Hm I cannot join this channel through Riot.im, it says that the reason is 'err_bannedfromchan'. I've never previously joined, could someone else gotten banned using Riot.im and then the whole domain got banned? [12:12:26] It is possible to include the filedesciption with a {{template}} on commons from wikibase? [12:12:27] 10[1] 1010https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Tl - Redirección desde 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:template?redirect=no [12:35:21] Hi everyone! I am trying to connect https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q36338039 to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heather_Heyer&redirect=no but receiving an error stating "Could not save due to an error. [13:27:59] Anyone? [13:29:11] GoingBatty: it's because that enwiki page is a redirect [13:33:27] In Wikidata, when I tried to add the entry to the English Wikipedia page (which is a redirect), I clicked the badge icon and selected "sitelink to redirect". I guess that's not correct? [13:42:38] sorry .... having connection issues today. Did I miss a response to my last question? [15:00:51] Hi, [15:01:02] Is a Thinkpad X200 a subclass of a laptop? [15:01:08] For me it would look like an instance of a laptop [15:02:05] A Thinkpad X200 for me isn't a kind of laptop (lightweight laptop, desktop replacement, etc) but rather an implementation of it [15:02:58] Though in ER or Object Oriented programming it would be represented as a subclass [15:03:36] When theses are often interested in the individual units produced (like a given Thinkpad X200 with this serial number, this MAC address, that much RAM etc) [15:06:37] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7784456 [15:06:47] instance of computer model series [15:06:52] subclass of ThinkPad [15:07:02] thinkpad is subclass of Laptop [15:07:23] Is there a reasoning I can follow to get to that? [15:07:44] Read the property descriptions? [15:07:45] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 [15:07:47] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279 [15:07:54] I did [15:08:09] It's crystal clear for humans but not for products [15:10:56] Q7784456 (ThinkPad X Series) is a serie not a specific laptop, so I assume that a Thinkpad X200 which is a way more specific laptop (GM45, mainly the same same mainboards with some small changes) is an instance of laptop [15:12:26] And what a laptop serie should be with reguard to laptop is hard to understand for me, I don't think it's very relevant, but it makes sense to be an instance of computer model serie [18:51:54] PROBLEM - Query Service HTTP Port on wdqs1006 is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable - 298 bytes in 0.005 second response time https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service [18:57:22] RECOVERY - Query Service HTTP Port on wdqs1006 is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 448 bytes in 0.024 second response time https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service [20:15:33] you have to differ between the abstract model and a real model. [21:31:54] https://cookcountyhealth.org/locations/john-h-stroger-jr-hospital-of-cook-county/ big hospital complex with a few buildings and addresses... [21:32:17] If I added an entry that was later deemed "same thing, duplicate" how could that be resolved? [22:29:04] CarlFK: we can merge items [22:29:25] the duplicate id will then redirect to the one that was already there [22:32:01] nikki: thanks. I'll still do my best not to create a dupe. Also I'm hoping that what I am afraid of being a dupe might really be 2 closely related things that need to be.. um.. [22:32:33] what do you call it when you add a triple that that shows the relation between two things? [22:35:21] that's good to hear :) dupes do happen, but people only really get annoyed when people create lots by being careless (especially if they leave them for other people to clean up) [22:35:35] adding a statement between two items? [22:35:50] not sure we have a specific word for it [22:39:31] good. I feel less dumb :p [22:40:24] my borderline obsession with dup avoidance has led to a friend saying "I would love to hear a recording of how that phone call goes. I bet the police get involved." [22:40:56] hehe [22:40:58] https://midwestexpressclinic.com/locations/bourbonnais-il/ [22:42:13] ring ring. "hi. I am tying to document your facility. can you go outside and take a picture of the building with your phone and send it to me? make sure you have not disabled location sharing so I can dig the lat/lng out of it. k thanks!" [22:43:02] there is conflicting info about where that building really is. [22:43:35] I doubt it is a dupe issue, but my dupe checking lead me to questioning that one's location [22:43:49] I did say obsession.... [22:44:31] I've been known to go to places to verify things, so you're not the only one :D [22:44:53] \o/ [22:45:26] it's about 2 hour drive. I tried to con a friend into it. he lives closer. only 1 hour drive for him. [23:17:23] going out sounds like horrible [23:26:48] going out as fine as long as you stay one crocodile away from anyone else [23:27:35] no