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[15:51:39] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - wikidata-alerts grafana alert on icinga1001 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Wikidata Alerts ( https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/TUJ0V-0Zk/wikidata-alerts ) is alerting: Edits: below 150 per minute (for 2 minutes). https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE/Wikidata/Alerts https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/TUJ0V-0Zk/
[15:52:45] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - wikidata-alerts grafana alert on icinga1001 is OK: OK: Wikidata Alerts ( https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/TUJ0V-0Zk/wikidata-alerts ) is not alerting. https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE/Wikidata/Alerts https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/TUJ0V-0Zk/
[16:02:15] <addshore>	 :>
[16:02:33] <addshore>	 Amir1: I wonder if these alerts should even be in this channel any more
[16:02:59] <Amir1>	 I get the emails, I don't care
[17:51:47] <heyarne[m]>	 Hi! 👋 I have a question about a query… I'm querying for [Suriname](https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q730) like [this](https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fitem%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ6256.%0A%20%20FILTER%28%3Fitem%20%3D%20wd%3AQ730%29.%0A%7D) and it doesn't show up. I have to alter the query to `  ?item wdt:P31/wdt:P279* wd:Q6256.` to get a result. Can somebody help me understand why?
[17:53:39] <heyarne[m]>	 The wikidata page shows it as an instance of and not a subclass of country. Also the [discussion](https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Basic_membership_properties#subclass_of_(P279)) seems to suggest that Suriname being an instance of a country and not a subclass is correct, no?
[17:54:47] <Lucas_WMDE>	 the item has three “instance of” statements, and the “sovereign state” one is preferred
[17:55:04] <Lucas_WMDE>	 and wdt:P31 will only give you the “best-rank” statement(s) – in this case, only the “sovereign state” one
[17:55:21] <Lucas_WMDE>	 (the idea is that if you have a lot of e. g. population, head of government, etc. statements, then wdt: will give you only the current value)
[17:55:36] <Lucas_WMDE>	 wdt:P31/wdt:P279* works because “sovereign state” is a subclass of “country”
[17:56:19] <Lucas_WMDE>	 alternatively, you can use p:P31/ps:P31 (https://w.wiki/CQW) – p: links to a “full statement” node (all statements, regardless of rank), and ps: links from there to the value
[18:00:27] <heyarne[m]>	 That helps a lot, thank yoU!
[21:32:13] <jblech>	 hello
[21:56:11] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - Query Service HTTP Port on wdqs1007 is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway - 380 bytes in 0.001 second response time https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service
[21:57:51] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - Query Service HTTP Port on wdqs1007 is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 448 bytes in 0.023 second response time https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service
[22:34:10] <helmoony>	 17:32 <Helmoony_> Hi ! Is there a way to remove time out error in this query?  https://w.wiki/CQs    I'm not sure if the first msg got published or not.