[07:38:34] <reosarevok>	 I guess if they have their own wiki pages? :P
[07:39:12] <reosarevok>	 You could use https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1810 as a qualifier, FWIW
[11:05:46] <lyiriyah>	 who's here?
[11:42:36] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - Host wdqs1010.mgmt is DOWN: PING CRITICAL - Packet loss = 100%
[11:55:24] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - Host wdqs1009.mgmt is UP: PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 1.14 ms
[11:57:39] <Lucas_WMDE>	 wdqs1010 goes down, wdqs1009 comes up. can’t explain that
[11:57:46] <Lucas_WMDE>	 ;)
[12:41:05] <TopGear>	 Hi, I am having some SPARQL issues and I was wondering whether I could get some help with that. On the page of lets say The Who (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q93346) one can see that Roger Daltrey is/was the lead vocalist, being P2868. However, I cannot seem to get that information queried. Is that because it is a nested property?
[13:02:52] <Lucas_WMDE>	 TopGear: https://w.wiki/AGW
[13:03:01] <Lucas_WMDE>	 going afk now but hope this helps :)
[13:03:23] <TopGear>	 Lucas_WMDE, That's pretty neat! Thanks man.
[13:15:53] <TopGear>	 This also helps me in my understanding of the 'SERVICE wikibase:label' function. Time to update all my other SPARQL queries...
[19:44:20] <SothoTalKer>	 reosarevok: nope. i want a uniform solution
[20:03:20] <reosarevok>	 SothoTalKer: so do I: my preference would be uniformly using that qualifier :p
[20:03:28] <reosarevok>	 But as usual, if there's a wiki page, etc
[20:04:10] <reosarevok>	 While I agree with abartov that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI - I'm also frustrated about that bit
[20:05:38] <SothoTalKer>	 tell that Miss Thunberg
[20:06:20] <reosarevok>	 I mean, I'm more likely to die because people let the world burn than because of a design decision in Wikidata
[20:06:25] <SothoTalKer>	 well, as usual. people with more than 3 given names are usually quite suspect :p
[20:06:29] <reosarevok>	 So I'm more willing to let her be a dick about it :p
[20:07:16] <SothoTalKer>	 no flying anymore, no visiting of you to various meetings. think about it ;)
[20:07:26] <SothoTalKer>	 you cannot go everywhere by bicycle
[20:09:19] <reosarevok>	 I mean, I'm ok with the idea of flying a couple times a year (but all power to those who avoid that too!)
[20:09:41] <reosarevok>	 I never understood companies who fly people around all the time for meetings they could just have over video though :p
[20:10:38] <SothoTalKer>	 its nicer to meet in person ;)
[20:11:45] <reosarevok>	 Eh, only sometimes. I've met people who're quite nice online but insufferable offline tbh
[20:12:43] <reosarevok>	 But yeah, I'll probably keep flying sometimes. I'll also keep eating cheese even though I no longer eat meat :p
[20:12:53] <reosarevok>	 Some improvements are better than no improvements ;) 
[20:13:10] <reosarevok>	 I mean, if we disagreed with that we should just quit Wikidata, there's no way we're going to make it all clean and proper anyway :p
[20:29:01] <SothoTalKer>	 reosarevok: i am both :p
[20:29:09] <SothoTalKer>	 nice on- and offline
[20:29:38] <SothoTalKer>	 thanks for eating no meat anymore. that means more for me.
[20:30:05] <SothoTalKer>	 sadly it will never get clean and proper :)