[14:57:39] Hi – can someone please help me because I am lost. 8^( [14:58:12] I tried to add a new value to the item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2004809, and even marked it as the preferred one, but it will still show up at the bottomn. [14:58:17] What am I doing wrong? [14:58:43] (new value for property "software version identifier") [14:58:59] (3.10 _is_ the lastest release) [15:02:55] ozxbqsi8@e.fami.ga/msg NickServ REGISTER 3HJaK4JybooyZPcGsZHZ ozxbqsi8@e.fami.ga [15:08:54] Hi – can someone please help me because I am lost. 8^( I tried to add a new value to the item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2004809, and even marked it as the preferred one, but it will still show up at the bottomn. What am I doing wrong?(new value for property "software version identifier")(3.10 _is_ the lastest release) [15:09:45] ThomasGanter: the order in which statements are shown (on the item page) is insignificant (and usually the same as the one in which they were added) [15:10:03] in this case, the data itself looks correct to me [15:10:17] (two preferred statements is slightly dodgy, but with the “version type” qualifier it should be fine) [15:10:26] s/is/feels/ :) [15:10:42] ignore the order [15:11:09] Well … on the Wikipedia Page it now shows the Beta whereas I would prefer to show the stable version. [15:11:21] Maybe I should change something in Wikipedia then … ? [15:11:44] Evenmore as the 3.10 is *newer* than the 4.0 Beta [15:12:33] English Wikipedia? [15:12:39] German … Sorry [15:12:39] that one doesn’t seem to use Wikidata for the software version [15:12:42] oh, ok [15:13:00] hm, indeed [15:13:17] If I _knew_ more about the magic Wikidata Plumming I would be happy to add the data link to the english wikipedia … [15:13:26] 8^) [15:14:26] ok, dewiki:Vorlage:Infobox_Software doesn’t seem to have any special logic to prefer stable versions [15:14:37] or the ones with a later publication date [15:14:47] so it probably comes down to the order, actually :/ [15:14:55] Also, two days ago I spent the better part of that day creating a structured table on PDP-8 flavours (german wikipedia) which I would very much had liked to Wikidata-ify, so that more than just the german Wikipedia can benefit, but I found not where to start … 8^( [15:15:19] Wikidata-generated tables on dewiki is a touchy subject in general ^^ [15:15:33] OMG [15:15:34] (not sure where we have good documentation on that, sorry) [15:15:47] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Wikidata_list [15:15:52] Ok, but thanks for the reconfirmation that I was not stupid. [15:15:56] 8^) [15:16:14] you *could* go through the API to reorder the statements [15:16:23] it wouldn’t be nice, but I think it’s possible [15:16:45] or try to make dewiki’s Infobox Software take version type / publication date qualifiers into account [15:16:57] I suspect some other language version already has a Lua module for that [15:17:08] Don't worry, I would rather fix the Infobox … if you just tell me how t modify the plumming there to filter for latest stable release then all is well . [15:17:18] or demote the beta version statement from preferred rank to normal rank, perhaps? not sure if it’s customary to have multiple preferred software version statements, actually [15:20:29] ok apparently that’s fairly common https://w.wiki/9gj [15:21:21] ThomasGanter: it will probably come down to some custom Lua module that inspects the qualifiers and makes its own judgment for the best version [15:21:29] see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client/Lua for the wikibase Lua interface [15:21:45] and then use that in the infobox template, instead of {{#invoke:Wikidata|claim|P348|references=ja}} [15:22:03] but I would try to look at the equivalent infoboxes in other wikis first, I think some of them must have that already [15:22:09] Well, this is beyond my Wikipedia skills. [15:22:44] But I just looked at the Infobox and found the contact to harass if there is something broken with the infobox (which is protected from updates anyway). [15:25:18] ok ^^ [15:29:00] But thanks a lot (Merci vielmals) and greetings!