[05:30:48] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/132ab0aba4c06f3bc1ebafcce5198232/text.txt [05:30:49] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/5b75359adda99ad0bccbd4af0a152d8d/AC48F164-9FE0-4610-9368-9C83B6BCA9C6.jpeg [05:32:43] Mkkk [05:32:55] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/132ab0aba4c06f3bc1ebafcce5198232/text.txt [13:06:46] is there any way to view the calendar model and precision of point in times in wikidata without using SPARQL? [13:24:07] bennofs[m]: Special:EntityData/Q12345.json, for example? [13:25:32] ah. My question was more about something accessible from the UI that I was missing [13:35:19] bennofs[m]: well, in the UI you’re shown any nonstandard calendar models and precision, I think [13:35:43] i. e. if you see “12 September 2019”, you can assume Gregorian calendar unless it says otherwise [13:37:09] and similarly the precision should be clear from the value shown [13:37:29] 2019 = year, 2010s = decade, 21st century = century, etc. [13:38:20] well it breaks down for example here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q268964 the date of birth "0" is with precision decade which was hard to spot from the UI [13:38:32] (it shows if you click on edit of course) [13:38:56] hm, that’s odd [13:45:16] hmm, the value 0 seems to be special. In the RDF n-triples export, it is exported as a string without datatype (in contrast to all other dates, which are exported with type xsd:dateTime) [13:56:11] oh right [13:56:20] in the Wikibase data model, year 0 is not a real year [13:56:32] +1 means 1 CE, -1 means 1 BCE [13:56:47] 0 can still be saved but it doesn’t have a good interpretation [13:56:49] I guess that’s why [13:57:10] (and for RDF, timestamps are translated because in RDF 1 BCE is supposed to be 0, so that you can do calculations easily) [13:57:24] (so there’s no real mapping for year 0 and it gets turned into a string instead) [17:43:35] does anyone here know where to find the wikidatawiki incremental dump files? There's /public/dumps/incr/wikidatawiki on Toolforge, is that also available via HTTP somewhere? [17:49:43] also, is there a good way to get the modification date from a revision id for a large number of revision ids? The best I could come up with is querying wikidatawiki_p.revision [17:51:52] https://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/20190901/ [17:55:51] Reedy: thanks, but as far as I can see the daily incremental dumps which can be found in /public/dumps/incr/wikidatawiki/ aren't there? [17:59:01] I'm slightly confused... https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72246 [18:00:55] ah, the incremental dumps accessible from toolforge are XML dumps, not json or rdf [18:15:02] but yes, I also find this confusing, as I haven't found any documentation on those incremental dumps [18:41:03] https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-dumps/blob/master/xmldumps-backup/generatemiscdumps.py [18:48:42] bennofs[m]: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/incr/ [19:01:18] this guy is being really obstructionist: Succu [19:01:23] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q171283&action=history [19:01:38] I litterally cited a claim to him which he cited back to me and for which he asked for a source [19:01:43] and he puts no source on anyting [19:01:46] and does not respond [19:01:53] !admin [19:01:53] Please visit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:AN [19:01:55] plz help [19:11:48] Hey eidax00, I believe we can't do any special thing here, unless we see some obvious vandalism you should continue discussing on talk page, sorry and thanks [19:12:18] I do wonder what an accurate translation of https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Succu&diff=1011843630&oldid=1011840895&diffmode=source is though.